Downton Abbey continued

[AndHarry]

Following on from the first thread...

It took me ages to get to sleep last night. I'm not particularly maudlin in general but that was shocking.

Predictions: Isabel and Mosley die.

[Greythorne]

The problem for me is that the story is just as powerful without Anna behaving in a frivolous, flirty way just prior to the rape. That bit really smacks of 'she was sending signals to Green and got her comeuppance' .

Had she continued to be her usual down to earth, non card-playing, sensible self, the rape scene would have been as horrifying.

The Anna messing about with silly card games subplot just reinforces the myth that good girls (who don't get drunk, wear short skirts, flirt etc) are 'safe' from rape whereas the ones who want to have a good time in some way contribute to their attack.

And Bates' Po-faced routine reinforces that this. This is a subtle way of conveying that he is decent and she was briefly fun-loving / wanton. What are the odds Bates will accuse Anna of sending the wrong signals to Green?

[KillerKoalaFace]

Anna is always friendly. I don't agree at all that she wasn't being her normal, down to earth self. She has shown she is fun loving when she dances and she often gets involved with the fun the other servants have.

In fact I'm finding it quite upsetting the amount of people on here saying that she was "sending signals" and other such crap.

She was raped because she was unfortunate enough to come across a rapist

Saying it was for any other reason is extreme stupidity.

[DelphiSwimsLate]

I have another question. Does anyone know where Jimmy was during the opera/rape scene last week? He had hurt his wrist earlier hadn't he. Was he upstairs watching the opera singing with everyone else?

[AndHarry]

Good evening.

[DelphiSwimsLate]

Evenin' Harry.
So I think I've answered my own question on Jimmy - he must have been upstairs in his room as Molesley was brought in wasn't he.

[TSSDNCOP]

Evening

[MadHeadlessBusLady]

[MadHeadlessBusLady]

Sir Jorah AGAIN, this time in Breathless. This is getting really confusing.

[NK5BM3]

Argh my kid is still not asleep. I can't turn the tv on!!!! She's downstairs with me. Lying on me.

[DelphiSwimsLate]

Yay more people!

[TSSDNCOP]

DOGS ARSE!

[StillaNortherner]

Evening. Here's to this episode being a bit less distressing than last one

[MadHeadlessBusLady]

"Minimise"? Would they have said that?

[Chubfuddler]

Bates is onto this.

Although minimise is a very modern word.

Why is nasty valet still there? I thought they were leaving at the end of the last ep

[StillaNortherner]

Oohh Hughs knows

[Chubfuddler]

The duchess is lush.

[TSSDNCOP]

Couldn't leave then Chub 'twas night.

[Chubfuddler]

Gillingham doesn't like his valet. Why does he employ him? Wonder if there's a story to that

[TheUnsinkableTitanic]

will anna be with child...

[DelphiSwimsLate]

Bates and Thomas onto it I think.

[Chubfuddler]

Hughes does know. Anna told her.

[DreaduCated]

I'm in! Though MN isn't loading properly

[StillaNortherner]

Yeah what I should have said is that she really does know who did it.

[Chubfuddler]

Ooh bitch. I bet nothing happened. He was asleep.

[TSSDNCOP]

Gillingham is brassic. Can't afford better. Also why he's targeting Lady M.