Downton Abbey continued

[AndHarry]

Following on from the first thread...

It took me ages to get to sleep last night. I'm not particularly maudlin in general but that was shocking.

Predictions: Isabel and Mosley die.

[Sunnymeg]

I'm a bit mystified, surely Green knew that Bates had been in prison and may not be the sort of man to cross. That seems to have been conveniently forgotten.

[diddl]

Perhaps he's banking on Anna saying nothing.

Won't it become obvious when Anna's pregnant?

She will be, won't she?

And then Bates will realise what happened?

[ppeatfruit]

OMG I didn't watch it poor Anna I'm going to watch the sunday teatime repeats because it's on too late for me (in Fr we're an hour later) . It'll be interesting to see if they calm the scene a bit.

Tribpot WRF to the lord serving the staff at Xmas; that's a VERY old tradition called 'The Lord of Misrule' or something so not an anachronism at all!

[Wishfulmakeupping]

Anna is bound to be pregnant. Really was not expecting that to happen watched it a day later so saw a lot of 'poor Anna' comments on here and FB I assumed that Edna had set her up again- was so shocked when I saw it :(

[ppeatfruit]

Why didl can't Bates get it up?

[diddl]

Well they've been married a while & no kids, so if she's raped & becomes pregnant, wouldn't the assumption be that it's not her husband's?

[VeeAndTea]

I know this isn't a popular view, but I thought it was excellent. It had to be shocking, it's a shocking event and something we should feel uncomfortable about. The MN WBY campaign proved how many rape myths are still believed and how many people use them to alleviate their own discomfort. But 1 in 4 women are survivors of sexual violence, imagine how much higher that figure would have been then. DA has a great opportunity here.

Although I would have liked a "If you are affected by this storyline, please call Rape Crisis on...

[ppeatfruit]

Maybe Bates and Anna practice withdrawal which can go wrong.

VeeAndTea You're right of course it wasn't talked about even in the middle decade and onwards of the last century let alone earlier (when nothing at all of a sexual nature was discussed in 'proper' homes)

[VeeAndTea]

ppeatfruit, exactly.

[BlueChampagne]

Can't remember how much we were told in series 1 about Bates's (war?) injury - maybe that's to blame for lack of sprogs.

VeeAndTea hear hear

[Animation]

I wanted Anna to give full reign to her anger in that last scene when she was talking to Bates - and the rapist valet said goodnight and she said goodnight back! Aaarrrrgggg!!

She could have at least said she'd been attacked to Bates even if she'd not wanted to disclose the rape at that point.

[thelittlemothersucker]

Thomas will bump Green off is my prediction. He likes Anna. Molsesley will get Green's job.

[KillerKoalaFace]

I hope it happens that way little.

Only watched it this morning and I found it difficult viewing.

[Wishfulmakeupping]

Yes I hope so too little

[BlueChampagne]

Be nice to see Thomas doing a good deed. Do we expect anything else on the sacked nanny story, either for Thomas or the children?

[SalveRibena]

Has O'Brien permanently gone or is she primed to come back at a surprising moment?

I actually like Edith's new bloke - not sure why people think he's a wrong 'un... I also spotted that the card sharp was a card sharp, it was so obvious.

I agree that maybe Thomas will bump off evil valet. He is definitely softening up a bit, maybe ready to become a goody rather than a baddie?

[Llareggub]

No, let's get shot of Molesley. I'm sick of seeing his hangdog face. Bates too. I really don't get why women fawn over him.

[Animation]

Always thought Thomas and O'Brien didn't like Anna and Bates?

[newgirl]

I really like ediths journo bloke - for her not me obv

[MadBusLady]

I like him increasingly, but I still think he has a Past. He didn't learn to beat cardsharps by living a blameless life.

[MaireadnotMermaid]

Awful. Couldn't get to sleep that night. Kept hearing the theme tune in my head.

[LateBloomer414]

Shamelessly marking a place....

[BlueChampagne]

I agree MadBusLady and Llareggub. Wouldn't put it past O'Brien to pop up again.

[tribpot]

Does Edith have any proof that the first Mrs Cardsharp is a lunatic?

[boogiewoogie]

Salve I think O Brien is well and truly out of the show. They can't keep the soap line dragging on for that long so I guess we are meant to think that she left before she got found out and sacked.

Regarding evil valet, I reckon he will get bumped off at the end of the series. It says that he's in the next episode and the penultimate and final one of this series.

Speculating plot to come Bates will have found out by then and kill him "accidentally" in a fight when he punches him and Green hits his head on something and lies on the floor unconscious. At this moment someone (Thomas or Mrs Hughes) comes in and sees Green on the floor and immediately thinks it's murder then cue theme tune.