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The Fall

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hollyisalovelyname · 13/05/2013 07:49

Watched it last night. Tis good, but disturbing. Gillian Anderson very good. Jamie Dornan scary. Anyone else see it?

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motherto4 · 28/05/2013 01:51

Very disturbing to watch, especially the verses that he writes in his notebook.

I think not making the connections between the crimes and the corruption, there seems to be much more than just keeping an eye on the boss's son, the police are in on it,me thinks, is hindering the investigation and the crime could have been solved a lot earlier if the police were doing their job properly.

Killer's wife is not strange but she is noticing things and maybe not paying much attention but will do. Maybe daughter has visions? of victims being murdered especially if she's got one of their objects around her neck. Wrong genre perhaps.

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/05/2013 01:57

I think the daughter saw the mannequin in the attic. Now that he's moved it, it won't be there when mum looks (as she surely will) so it will be thought she was dreaming. Also think daughter has seen his scrapbook and pictures - hence her drawings.

somanymiles · 28/05/2013 05:29

How does GA sleep in a camp bed at the office and still manage to look so groomed?

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Fiderer · 28/05/2013 07:58

The pace makes it so good. Someone mentioned how we see scenes not usually shown, such as the body being delivered to the morgue and here the preparation for the press conference.

GA doesn't strike me as the type to let herself be blackmailed, she'd have known she'd have to admit she was with Olsen the night before because the police would be tracking his last movements, CCTV of traffic etc.

Baddy copper with Cokehead Munroe not undercover then, just baddy.

I didn't click that the "lady" his daughter saw was the mannequin.

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wintera · 28/05/2013 08:17

The copper who she had a one night stand with was a right shifty bugger then by the looks of it. Tipping off the press, involved in that Monroe thing. She definitely didn't judge his character right. Loved how all the fellas thought it was her problem that the copper was married.

Also interesting how angry the killer got about his victim being pregnant. Seemed like he was more bothered that she was no longer perfect and sullied in a way, not really bothered about the baby as such.

Fiderer · 28/05/2013 08:20

GA may also have thought that PC woman was sharp enough to notice and act and may therefore be useful to her.

Which may also be why PC woman did it. Or to make up for having 'failed' to act re Sarah Kay, she was the one to report that to GA, not her partner.

Only 2 more? Unlikely that they'll catch him at this pace.

And yes, the Munroe story seems shoehorned on but must have some relevance.

gazzalw · 28/05/2013 08:21

Is Annie the young girl who was round at his house last week? I wasn't totally paying attention last night and couldn't quite fathom who the girl was, whose house he was in...

wintera · 28/05/2013 08:28

Annie is the girl he saw when out with wife and friends in the first week. They were in a bar, he took her driving license out of her bag. At that point he hadn't murdered Sarah but was already setting Annie up to be his next victim.

I don't think the thing with the wpc was blackmail as such. She wanted to impress GA I think and prove herself after cocking up. Which she did and that's why GA chose her as her right hand.

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gazzalw · 28/05/2013 08:45

Ah yes that makes sense - I had just assumed the woman in the bar was Sarah.......

Yes, I'm sure the babysitter will come back to haunt him in some way.....As will the necklace he gave to his daughter.....

wintera · 28/05/2013 08:53

I don't think it will be solved by the end of the series. Just can't see it, not at the pace it goes at. The article on digital spy about it getting a second series said there's a cliffhanger as well so maybe it carries on till series two?

wintera · 28/05/2013 09:01

Do we think he'd harm his wife and kids if they start being a liability? Just thinking if his wife susses things out then he may have to get rid of them. Plus that dodgy fella who he is councilling with his wife over the death of their son has now threatened to kill him and his family. He could set it up to look like he's done it.

gazzalw · 28/05/2013 09:15

I think you're right Wintera... the next episode will presumably be his attempt/actual killing of Annie and it really doesn't seem as if they net is anywhere near him yet let alone over him and ready to drop....

I am just waiting though for his wife/mother-in-law to see a photo of Sarah Kay wearing the necklace....

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TooTabooToBoo · 28/05/2013 09:27

Don't forget, the babysitter tried to steal the lock of hair.

Once that info is released to the press along with the necklace description, he's had it!

Anybody else getting the impression that he doesn't like his daughter? When the wife told him to take the quad bike out with the girl first as she's the eldest. He seemed mighty pissed off.

Also agree, Sarah being pregnant meant she wasn't pure. He seems to be cleansing them of their sins and then using them as toys, once they're dead he poses them to look like manequins (sp?)

wintera · 28/05/2013 09:36

I wonder why he paints their nails red afterwards? There's got to be a real woman somewhere who he was in love with or obsessed with in his past. She left him or died or something and that's who he wants them to look like. Maybe she always painted her nails red so that's why he does it to them. Maybe she used to pose for him so he could draw her and that's what he's replicating.

Oblomov · 28/05/2013 09:55

Found it really creepy last night.

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 28/05/2013 10:44

I also thought the WPC telling her she removed the 'signs that she'd had company' Grin wasn't blackmail, but was her trying to prove her competence and powers of observation. Possibly also an element of her trying to connect with Stella in a human way, which everyone has signally failed to do so far? She obviously didn't succeed either, although I do feel Stella has rewarded her by making her her right-hand woman.

The washing of his victims and the anger at Sarah being pregnant is puzzling me. They've made a point of telling us that the killer is Jewish, or at least from a Jewish background, but isn't the idea of washing away sins more of a Catholic, or at least broadly Christian, thing?

I do agree that he wants his victims to be perfect and to be perfectly under his control, hence him dressing and posing them after he kills them. And if one of them was pregnant and he didn't know, it would anger him because he'd feel foolish about being in the dark about an aspect of someone who he thought he'd been watching so closely.

I am loving this. Particularly love Gillian A's performance and her character.
Very trenchant points being made about the moralising that goes on about women. 'He was married.' 'He wasn't wearing a ring.' 'Did you not see fit to ask?' Hmm What the fuck? Loved her response to that one, and of course 'Woman fucks man ... you're not so comfortable with that, are you?' Grin. She was spot on about the wording in 'innocent' too.

Lottapianos · 28/05/2013 12:40

Loved last night's episode. GA's character is really coming into her own. Well done all the MNers who said that she had had a thing in the past with Sergeant Beardy - I didn't see it myself but you were spot on. Nice bit of attempted slut shaming from him and the other senior male detective Hmm I love how she was so totally unashamed about the one night stand and her absolute refusal to accept any responsibility for him being married - of course that was his problem, not hers!

guineapiglet · 28/05/2013 12:45

We have all been watching with a sort of grim fascination, as it all slowly unravels/builds up, and last nights viewing was the creepiest of all, with no actual violence, just the ongoing suggestion of what is to come. I almost couldn't watch when he agreed to hug and comfort the grieving Mum, who clearly does not fit his 'profile' but nonetheless unwittingly fell into the arms of a murderer. I wonder if the brunette with the red nails is like a Madonna figure ( hadn't picked up on Jewish past - assumed him to be Catholic), and therefore will end up being a kind of Mummy obsession ( have we been told about his past and his parents? Only the line about the 'stolen' hair' that it belong to his Mother and was all he had of her, when the babysitter found it. ) Not sure I fell for that one.

It is not the Killing, and GA is no Sarah Lund, I find her slightly incredible going to work in monstrous heels, and flashing (inadvertantly???) to the press, but perhaps that is the point, she is almost like a kind of 'fantasy' policewoman, dominant, attractive, highly focussed etc, mirroring the killers' need for a perfect victim... - but she kind of castrates all her male colleagues in the process.

I will be seriously fed up if they elongate it and drag this crime on into another series, as I find all the violence against women vile enough anyway, but to make us all wait to watch it all again in Series 2 would be too much. Yes, by all means let her head up another crime, but let us have an ending to this.....!

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/05/2013 12:57

Mark my words, he is already fantasising about GA in a long dark wig. She is next on his list after Annie.

Think Wintera might be right about him having to 'deal with' his family, especially as wife will ask him about necklace as soon as police announce it is missing...

wigglesrock · 28/05/2013 13:28

Do the police know the necklace is missing ? I think as a clever Mumsnetter said the facebook pictures will catch him out, but only if someone mentions the necklace.

Also I was surprised (I know its not real Smile ) that he is going ahead with his latest victim - Annie.

He has already been placed by witnesses a few streets away and he fits the profile the PSNI are already working on - age, fitness, profession

gazzalw · 28/05/2013 14:02

But he had a legitimate reason for being a few streets away didn't he?

Wasn't the implication from GA's character that his compulsion to kill and stage his victims is escalating and getting increasingly 'sophisticated' so presumably he will scaling up his 'waiting list' of potential victims so once Annie is killed he will be on to the next (possibly GA???) virtually immediately.

I'm presuming he didn't want to take his daughter because he is most likely aware that she is intuiting stuff about him and what he's up to - leaving her parked outside the house as she shouted "Daddy, I don't like it here" will most likely come back to haunt him at some stage.

It seems that he is taking more and more risks which will presumably be his undoing....