Crimson Petal

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Chris O'Dowd's todger! I can't watch the IT crowd in the same way again!

Can't believe I missed 3/4s of this week's for that stupidly pointless Sex Education Show on lads mags/WH Smiths!

I read the book a few years back and am pretty sure that Sugar isn't responsible for Williams beating. He went right out of town (to escape being there when the men come to take Agnes to the asylum)and to a very dodgy pub. I think he kind of knew he was in danger but wanted to put himself at risk due to his guilt and pain at Agnes' breakdown.

Sugar genuinely wants to help Agnes (but is frightened of the potential consequences)- she has read the diaries and feels her pain and rage against men (Sugar is writing that hate novel) but doesn't know what to do at short notice- she tells Agnes to go to the countryside as she thinks Agnes would get raped/robbed/beaten up on the London streets and imagines the countryside to be safer and further away - asking for the nearest convent seems like a good idea.

Think this adaptation is brilliant and now think Chris O'Dowd is great as Rackham after not quite being able to get Roy from IT crowd out of my head in episode 1. Like a lot of you I think the music and the styling is superb - so sad next week is the last episode (should have been more)

I was in the park on sunday and my friend was telling me how good this series is. Another friend came to sit with us along with two other guys I had met before. Anyway, they said ah, we were just talking about that show, and we discussed it for a while.

Then a funny silence. Then one of them asks us which male character is our favourite, then they had a giggle.

Turns out we were sitting with one of the male characters! I knew he was an actor, but my friend had not clicked at all.

He is extremely sexy. I was trying so hard not to keep looking at him

one of his friends

Was it the one that was in Upstairs Dowsntairs?

loving this adaptation, just the sort of thing the beeb should be doing more of, although I do have to watch on iplayer or V+ as DH does not like these sort of dramas. Never heard of the book before.
I think the rule about male parts has to do with the 'angle of the dangle' if you get my drift

I have just ordered the book too.
Am loving it.
I think Sugar is fascinating and the actress who played Agnes deserves an award.
And the sex is good.......

Go on Tanso give us a clue

Absolutely love it and want to get the book.
I missed part of the first episode though, up until he visits Sugar for the first time. So what heppened in the beginning? Was Agnes ok to start with?

Think Christopher is Sugars brother? Guessing Sugar up the duff.

Absolutely love it and want to get the book.
I missed part of the first episode though, up until he visits Sugar for the first time. So what heppened in the beginning? Was Agnes ok to start with?

Think Christopher is Sugars brother? Guessing Sugar up the duff.

Absolutely love it and want to get the book.
I missed part of the first episode though, up until he visits Sugar for the first time. So what heppened in the beginning? Was Agnes ok to start with?

Think Christopher is Sugars brother? Guessing Sugar up the duff.

Christopher isn't Sugar's brother, he's the son of the cello player in Mrs Castaway's in the first episode. She (the cello player) died of TB as well.

I like Chris O'Dowd even more after seeing his part in this. I've always had a soft spot for funny men, but the fact he can tackle something like this gives him extra brownie points.

Oh...and I mean his tackle, as well as his acting part :)

If I remember correctly, in the book the narrator suggests that Agnes has a tumour behind her eye - I believe that William mentions at one point that her eye appears to bulge. It explains her headaches too. Of course the characters in the book know nothing about it.

It's absolutely excellent and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. Love the beeb.

Oh giving her a tumour seems a bit unnecessary[imo]. Her ignorance and everyone else's complicity in keep her ignorant have been quite enough to make her and the story absolutely gripping..

I was going to get the book for this weekend but decided to wait until after it has finished.

I don't want the series to end, can't remember a tv prog ever affecting me so emotionally. For some reason the story is completely consuming me!

Pretty sure that Victorian treatments for brain tumours would have been equally horrific in ingenuity, cruelty and pointlessness to those for mental illness. Probably much overlapping in fact.

I'm fairly new to mn and thank everybody, I've enjoyed this thread so much I might start reading the mn featured books and join in there.
After I order and read The Crimson Petal... that is!

I've been watching this with a cynical sneer so far, but since they introduced the Sophie storyline I'm hooked. The men are so vile and the women so powerless to start new lives without them, I've just watched episode 3 on catch-up and was so engrossed in it I feel all over the place now!

(Him Indoors had better stay out at his band practice a little bit longer while I still feel like stabbing all men in the eyes.)

I think Agnes makes Sugar feel less sorry for herself - the more she learns about Agnes the less she writes her book. Sugar had her innocence stolen whereas Agnes has been kept in a state of innocence and it has driven her mad.

It's hard to tell whether the men actually realised that Agnes didn't understand she was mentruating/pregnant/in labour/had a daughter or whether they knew but had some misguided idea that telling her her would make her more mad.

Sadly, many women today suffer Post Natal Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and still have never heard of it, inc many GPs.

Silk,I think that William's met the first woman he's ever known,that thinks like a man. Even these days,it'd be unusual. Initially(not having read the book) I was waiting for him to find Sugar's writings.