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The Incident Room (aka The Killing - Thread 2)

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atswimtwolengths · 13/03/2011 16:27

Bring your notebooks, your whiteboards, your clipboards, your pens, your tape measures and your waterways maps to solve the problem of what happened to Nanna Birk Larsen.

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sydenhamhiller · 14/03/2011 20:52

Just popping my head round the incident room door to say this is keeps me going until Saturday. Today is the first time I have met someone in RL who watches this - we nearly hugged each other in front of the Year 2 classroom....

wigwam1973 · 14/03/2011 20:59

Evening all. Inset day today so no chance to check the thread and see the latest developments. Interesting stuff, especially the biblical element.

I rewatched episode 15 last night and was struck again by the following:

Mette really does look like Ree - seems like too much of a coincidence so maybe there is some really tenuous connection. Maybe she is Mette's sister (who was adopted when young) and is trying to pin the blame on the person what-dunnit by leaving clues left, right and centre.

I also noticed the speed with which she tacked down civil-servant man who'd mentioned Holck's behaviour to Bremmer and the missing document. How would she know where all those things were?

Right, going to rewatch ep 16 now.

UpCrack · 14/03/2011 21:08

Bloody hell, has taken forever to skim all your posts and theories since last week (real life inconveniently getting in the way) :o

Prolesworth - 'Forbydelsen' literally means The Crime so specific in that sense (unless you throw in an adjective, then the article is lopped on at the end of the noun - in this case the 'The' would be the 'n' on the end of Forbrydelsen).

Actually, just wanted to ask you - did you used to to be Molesworth?
i think we might have 'met' on the students thread about a year ago or so (was doing my Master's last year but part-time childcare and 2 pre-schoolers didn't leave me much time for mnetting so I sort of faded off that thread shortly after joining Blush )

Fivecentsplease · 14/03/2011 21:10

Have been searching websites previously unseen on my computer, wearing a heavy disguise of a centre parted wig and too short trousers - and have found interesting things re the Devil etc (yep, still on this track, but I think it fits)

Ol Nick was made perfect and ruled over the world, then violence was found within him and he and one third of angels fell with him: Then there's a load of stuff about a woman fleeing in the wilderness and being kept somewhere (really): Then it says that god couldn't destroy Satan, as he was part of everything, including man, and therefore chose redemption.

Now back to the point - bear with - as the plot moves on, we see that all parties are implicated in degrees of evil-doing - it's intrinsic to them: Thies/Pernille with the shady past, Troels with his political scheming, Holck was weak, Olav was tempted by money: Even Nanna was not Blemish free, and Bremmer - well, not enough space.

Some key characters are having redemptions, at last: Thies has realised he was wrong to judge, Troels had his moment in ye wilderness......

Some one help me out here: Anyhoo, if you persue this theory it makes me think I'm back with the multiple perpetrators thing: They are all flawed, no one more or less than the other. Are there actually any characters to like (not lust!!) here?

enough already!

Fivecentsplease · 14/03/2011 21:13

Yey upcrack Like it Grin

UpCrack · 14/03/2011 21:16

:o

Although it'll probably just be a telly-seasonal namechange rather than permanent!

Fivecentsplease · 14/03/2011 21:18

Thought the 'third of angels' thing might be relevant - 3 political parties?

could be such a long dark and research intensive blind alley, this one! Hmm

Prolesworth · 14/03/2011 21:35

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UpCrack · 14/03/2011 21:44

Ah ok, I was SkivingViking on that thread. Passed my Master's :o - good luck with yours!

(Actually the topic of my dissertation was initially Forbrydelsen until I discovered 1 month in that the Aussie's had translated it, so I had to change and ended up subtitling an episode from Forbrydelsen II - this may partly explain my obsession with the series and how you guys are reacting to the series as I partly discussed Scandi crime fiction as an import to the UK Blush )

wigwam1973 · 14/03/2011 21:46

Upcrack does have a certain ring to it. Grin

UpCrack · 14/03/2011 21:49

:o

Not sure if I feel brave enough to wander into another thread with this name though. Feels a bit like leaving a Christmas dinner and going in amongst the public still wearing your paper cracker hat and plastic cracker-gift earrings!

Prolesworth · 14/03/2011 21:49

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wigwam1973 · 14/03/2011 21:55

Can I just ask, Upcrack. Is Forbrydelsen II as good as I? I'm dreading the finale of this one so hoping there is something to look forward to (later in the year perhaps).

mdorph · 14/03/2011 22:08

fivecents, teej thank you for the welcome! Yes, have missed out for years but didnt really realise until now. Should have known though as Danish tv have done a few good bits before. 'Rejseholdet' (the name for the special police group like Scotland Yard?) was really good and Mads Mikkelsen (aka Troels' brother) played a main part.
I love the way having 20 episodes on one case allows so many twists and turns as well as more detail to the personal stories like Pernille and Theis. I was telling Pernille to go straight home when she was talking to the Norwegian businessman - suddenly the horrible news stories have a deep personal family background..

Fivecentsplease · 14/03/2011 22:18

Lets hope BBC4 have the sense to buy them up as we speak....

teej · 14/03/2011 23:28
Blush i did apologise up Blush can you forgive me?
KnitterNotTwitter · 14/03/2011 23:33

ok I'm coming round to the Amir/Nana/Rama theory.

Also wondering if the 7 deadly sins might be the biblical thing.... anger (Theis), greed (Bremer), sloth (?), pride (Trols), lust (Holck), envy (Morten), and gluttony(?)

Prolesworth · 15/03/2011 00:54

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Blackduck · 15/03/2011 06:31

I like the Amir/Nana/Ramu link theory - feels right. Think he may have been on the phone to Amir saying you need to talk to them.
Upcrack ( :) ) would love to read your thesis - sounds interesting!

Prolesworth · 15/03/2011 09:54

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Blackduck · 15/03/2011 10:01

the one he made after Theis had been to see him in hospital where he said he wasn't going to push charges because he had lied to Theis about seeing Nana....

I need to clean off my incident board and start again I think!

Prolesworth · 15/03/2011 10:13

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Fivecentsplease · 15/03/2011 10:15

proles, do you think our incident board shows Troels with a big red heart drawn round him, when in fact all roads seems to point to him as the killer? He's the only character we know has come from somehwhere else out of Copenhagen, we know his father was a police chief (forensic knowledge), the wife he says died of cancer, the missing weekend with only loveblind Morten as witness, not to mention his mysterious dry cleaning.....

Time to focus the fluffy emotion on his brother Mads Mikkelsen (thanks for that Mdorph) and look with a steely eye at Troels again, with Morten helping: Perhaps Rie is looking for her dead sisters killer, and has found her way to troels that way?

It would fit with the betrayal theme too, when Morten grasses him up?
I wonder if Troels will survive the series...alive?

Here's some appropriate gen on Cicero, as these props don't happen by chance!.....

"During the chaotic latter half of the 1st century BC Cicero championed a return to the traditional republican government. However, his career as a statesman was marked by inconsistencies and a tendency to shift his position in response to changes in the political climate. His indecision may be attributed to his sensitive and impressionable personality; he was prone to overreaction in the face of political and private change. "Would that he had been able to endure prosperity with greater self control, and adversity with more fortitude!" wrote C. Asinius Pollio, a contemporary Roman statesman and historian.[5][6] Cicero became an enemy of Mark Antony, attacking him in a series of speeches. He was proscribed as an enemy of the state by the Second Triumvirate and subsequently murdered in 43 BC."

teej · 15/03/2011 10:15

wigwam hopefully upcrack will confirm but the reviewers say that series II is even more complex Shock

less incident board/room, more like incident warehouse at this rate....

do you think we'll get to thread 3 by the end of the next couple of weeks??

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