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The Incident Room (aka The Killing - Thread 2)

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atswimtwolengths · 13/03/2011 16:27

Bring your notebooks, your whiteboards, your clipboards, your pens, your tape measures and your waterways maps to solve the problem of what happened to Nanna Birk Larsen.

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muminlondon · 20/03/2011 11:20

teej maybe he did have a stroke or heart attack following the operation. The hint about his health has kept me worried about why we don't see him in series 2 which the Guardian revealed last week. But I guess the shooting was still a shock.

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atswimtwolengths · 20/03/2011 11:21

Thanks, teej, had forgotten that!

The Guardian just has a little piece about what happens in each episode, not who did it, though. But it's pretty easy to figure it out and I really, really wish I hadn't seen it.

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teej · 20/03/2011 11:23

oh thanks mum have to admit i've been avoiding the guardian telly section just in case so didn't see that.

when he was peeing into the canal i honestly thought he was going to be knocked over the head and pushed into the water - he just seemed so vulnerable at that point!

muminlondon · 20/03/2011 11:24

Nasty Guardian, will avoid avoid avoid

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atswimtwolengths · 20/03/2011 11:29

I've just written to complain about it, asking for it to be removed.

Let's see what happens.

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Fivecentsplease · 20/03/2011 11:31

Also, they prosecutors were sent then to stop here getting to Leon, so that she could not find out his version of events at the flat: Don't forget that city hall are still implicated as someone cancelled the new bog, to hide the crime scene.

Fivecentsplease · 20/03/2011 11:33

teej my Ds's said at the weeing in the canal moment - "look mum, men can multi-task - peeing and smoking, and on the phone at the same time!" [indulgent look at sons emoticon]

teej · 20/03/2011 11:36

thanks atswim for the heads up. will be interesting to hear what the grauniad says to youGrin

rofl at five's sons!

urgh have to go face laundry and cleaning - catch you all later! x

muminlondon · 20/03/2011 11:37

five Grin

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atswimtwolengths · 20/03/2011 11:46

Whatever I do, I can't think that Vagn or Leon or anyone like that actually went into the government flats. I think they'd be too intimidated.

I do think that Leon would wait for her - Nanna was his boss's daughter and he would feel he should wait.

I just can't see that if he saw someone driving out with her, that he wouldn't report it. Why wouldn't he?

What about if the murder of Mette was committed by Vagn and Leon together? But then when Vagn shouted at Leon, would he do that if Leon had anything on him?

Arrgh getting so stuck here!

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Blackduck · 20/03/2011 11:55

atswim - if you mean the blog on The Killing I can't see the problem with it....

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atswimtwolengths · 20/03/2011 12:07

No, not the blog. You know if you go on the Radio Times website, they give a short paragraph about what's going on in a tv programme? There's a page like that. Don't go looking for it, for god's sake!

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Fivecentsplease · 20/03/2011 12:34

atswim I still think that Leon was being leant on by the killer, who he had witnessed - say the killer made leon dispose of the stuff, as he could get his name and address through city hall Taxi Licence, hence the rapid moving out by Leon: That would also explain the discrepancy in the MO of careful crime, but not hiding Nanna's stuff....

Vagn and Leon couldn't have cancelled the Loo delivery, either...and there's too much information coming from police HQ to City Hall - so who is the feed to Bremmer and Rie? Holck, also had access to this info, as didn't he know when Olav was being hunted by the police?

Wolfgirl · 20/03/2011 13:00

Morningn all... we need to go back a bit further, and find out why the other chief of police... can't remember his name, but the one Brix took over from.... why was he pushed out?

He knew something, and was put into early retirement. I think this needs to be explored a bit more.

Brix, Troels and crew... all need to be kept an eye on.

How about, some high up conspiracy, Leon's involvement... he was a taxi driver for some of them... and got involved.

Charlotte and club.... drugs being dealt from here... high up involvement? Barman\Charlotte witness exchanges or rooms in the club used for meetings etc?

Re the new house.... not sure about this yet, but it appears Nanna was def. there. So who in the above lot of people would have taken Nanna to the house from the flat?

How about Leon was instructed to take her from the flat and he knew about the empty house... so took her there (upon instruction). Then events outside his control\knowledge turned for the worse. And it is this that he is scared of?

I think Brix shot Meyer.

Wolfgirl · 20/03/2011 13:07

oh and concerning Rie... she has been rather aloof from Troels for a while, but then all of sudded when that journalist started to dig dirt about her and Troels challenged her, she gave some lame excuse about a secretary jeopodising her job and for Troels not to dig any further there... then to keep him sweet, she turns on the charm again and seduces him. So he is back in the palm of her hand, believing on anything she says.

Then he spies her bickering with Dessau... so perhaps there is truth in the journalists rumour.

??

Wolfgirl · 20/03/2011 13:09

ahhh... fivecents just read your theory... great minds eh re: Leon!!!!!!

teej · 20/03/2011 13:10

here's a thought - i had assumed our very meticulous killer left evidence of nanna to bring comfort to theis and pernille that she had not just disappeared, but that she was probably dead - so they could grieve.

what if the evidence was left to cause them pain instead?

teej · 20/03/2011 13:12

wolfgirl - yy i think there may be some sort of truth in the journalist's rumours. maybe rie did not sleep with dessau but maybe she did promise him something or maybe had promised to use the info in a different way?

Wolfgirl · 20/03/2011 13:12

Question, could someone remind the time line of Nannas death? Was it claimed she was held on a cement floor first? Or was she attacked in the flat first, then moved to basement with cement floor?

I thought it was the latter, but getting confused with all our theories Blush

teej · 20/03/2011 13:13

fwiw i think leon dropped nanna off as he said - and then either he mentioned to the killer that he had seen nanna or he suggested nanna call the killer to ask for a lift

teej · 20/03/2011 13:17

wolf i think nanna was attacked but not necessarily raped in the flat
then she was held in the place with the cement floor for 15-20 hours
then she was cleaned etc and nails cut
then she escaped into the woods
then she was caught, bound and placed in the car
finally the car was put into the canal.

she was repeated knocked out with ether and raped either at the flat or at the place with the cement floor.

Blackduck · 20/03/2011 13:18

teej - I am with you, and I think Leon has put 2 and 2 together hence air ticket etc. He wants to get away....

She was at flat and then floor.....

teej · 20/03/2011 13:18

quick question. vagn seemed to say the hydraulic lift was broken that weekend. is that like one of those cherry picker type things you see lifting furniture up to people's flats in places like paris?
or is it more a fork lift truck?

teej · 20/03/2011 13:23

blackduck yy i think leon put 2 and 2 together. going back, we all think theis beat up the drug dealer because of how he was with rama
what if the person who really did the beating was vagn and leon knew that? he knew vagn had the temper and strength to kill and wanted to get out of the way
also - my thinking on vagn now is that he found out about the house and found out about nanna and he went into a fury - on the first part that theis would keep a secret from him and on the second that nanna would take up with amir.

so killing nanna was partly about owning her, but it was also about hurting theis and pernille. he would not touch the boys as he is godfather to them but nanna was not "his".

Fivecentsplease · 20/03/2011 13:59

Hydraulic lift is the thing on the tail-gate of the removal trucks - so that would put any move out of the question.

Lund says that the first rape happened in the bloody bed in the flat....

And finally, I reckon Rie is a character with no moral scruples - she probably did sleep with Dessau, and who knows what else..... what motive now for getting back in with Troels?

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