Jamie's Dream School

[londonone]

20 in a class
No curriculum
TV Cameras

And they still piss around! Maybe people will start to get a real idea about how perhaps some of the students are in fact not vitims but the architects of their own downfall!

I would love to be able to do what Andrew did and give pupils the option of staying in my class if they want and be able to kick out pupils if they were constantly disrupting others. That would be my dream school.

i thought that was very powerful, neeps. it would be a real make or break in a proper school.

so true. it seemed utterly bizarre.

i am assuming that LaToyah bit was edited and that she will infact get help....dp swears the whole program is hugely cut

I hope they'd actually done something for La Toya too instead of making her miss lessons until the CP is over. It's not a question of funding childcare though is it - the baby goes to a childminder usually anyway, it's the fact that she has CP that's the problem. Is it possible to get a CM/nanny etc. to care for a child with CP?

It would be amazing Aitch. The two worst parts of my job are having to make pupils who clearly hate my subject participate and seeing the negative impact of these pupils on the ones who want to learn. I love my subject but really don't want to make anyone do it if they don't want to and I could achieve so much more with the ones who do.

Thanks Mary, I have emailed you, and was stupidly excited that you asked me to

neepsntatties - I agree, I teach a bit of English too and would love the kids who just don't want to learn to leave my classroom. It would be a very brave leadership move to allow teachers such control over who is in their classrooms though, and I can't see it happening!

The actors are IMPRESSIVE

I agree NotaMopsa, particularly the young blond boy.

aargh, aargh, now Alastair Campbell's flattering her.
the more awful they are the more attention and flattery they will get.

My goodness, I know they are young people but it is so hard to not actively dislike some of them.

I know, I don't know how teachers carry on acting professionally when faced with kids like this, I really don't.

I think Jamie is pretty pissed off with them as well. Alastair Campbell definitely is.

I at the piece that showed them drinking vodka and beer in the flat.

I only watched 2 episodes in full as it wound me up so very much.

This episode has been the worst. I really want to see the best in them, I really do, but it is so hard. I keep thinking, they don't deserve any kind of attention, they don't deserve to be told bs like they are intelligent etc. when there's no evidence whatsoever of that (that I can see at least, maybe the teachers see it). They don't act or talk like normal young adults, ten year olds are more grown-up than them. When Jamie was talking to Harlem and praising her virtues I was wondering how he could do that with a straight face. When Angelique was kicking off I wanted to tear my hair out.

I feel very sorry for the teachers who have to put up with children like that.

I was watching this with my DS who is 16 and even he was getting annoyed with their behaviour. He couldn't believe that they were getting away with walking out of the classes all the time, smoking on school premises.

I couldn't believe their massive sense of entitlement. I hope that Alastair Campbell sticks to his rules and doesn't take the badly behaved ones to Downing Street. I thought it was very interesting that they don't like being interrupted but think nothing of doing it themselves to anyone. They don't seem to treat anyone with respect at all. Nothing that happens seems to be their fault. It's always someone else's.

I also am somewhat upset that many of them are in the position of having no exams due to their own behaviour, yet they are getting all these fantastic opportunities and many of them are not using them.

When you see this you don't wonder that teachers are striking at a school in Lancashire? tomorrow due to the behaviour of pupils.

This program is starting to change me from a soft lefty liberal to a member of the give them a spell in the army brigade.

This program is starting to change me from a soft lefty liberal to a member of the give them a spell in the army brigade.

Me too. Watching this programme is causing me to turn into a right wing loon. I actually found myself suggesting to my husband that we deport idiots like these kids to third world countries (obviously compensating said countries) - and mild mannered fellow that he is, agreed with me!

My dh last night also started muttering about bring back national service

It's very hard to see a happy ending next week. I think Jamie bit off more than he could chew with this lot, not least because he seemed to have the original premise that he was "failed" by school. Maybe he was but he has phenomenal drive and talent. These kids have neither of those and as far as I can see have been endlessly mollycoddled by their schools and let themselves down by blowing endless last chances.

I think some of them need some anger management therapy before they try to tackle education. It is just not feasible to get anywhere in life by screaming, swearing and chucking things around - and then being completely incapable of seeing where they are going wrong, and why their response is not reasonable. The things they fly off the handle about are often fairly small too.

I know it's edited, but some of them (not all!) do really come across as ungrateful. I'd expect that in the first few weeks, but so few of them seem to be inspired by the opportunity.

As for that girl who sat in the car smoking, swearing and sulking until her mum drove her home.... what a madam.

Monkeyjamtart - I know, it is so not fair on the rest of the kids. I presume these ones are the extreme examples and the average classroom isn't going to have a whole load of them but it only takes one to screw things up for the rest of the class, surely?