My teen wants to go to his concert; this looks horrifying to me, am I just out of touch?

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Is this acceptable pop music videos, and I'm just over-protective, and out of touch with the current music culture 'norm'?

is the new teaser video. Is this, absolutely fine, and safe, for 14yo - 16yo, to go with peers, to see the concert of this new album?

You agree that a 16 year old who could actually get married and live alone shouldn't be allowed to go to concerts with friends?

I am very much an overprotective parent (much to my teens chagrin) but for goodness sake, a concert that would have age restrictions if needed?

Bet half of PP will be posting in a year or 2 wondering why their child isn't settling at university because they've never did anything by themselves. It's a venue with security they can be dropped off/collected from and lyrics they are already allowed to listen to or else they wouldn't want to go in the first place.

It's Tyler the creator - he is MASSIVE - it'll be very safe and full of teenagers. My poor DH has been dragged to all sorts - Aitch with 13 yo DD being the funniest as he followed her to the front and kept catching Aitch's eye and having a cheeky wink at him. Teenagers should be allowed some fun - let him enjoy himself.

I don't like the whispering on that track. But I don't like the sound of whispering anyway.

I find it interesting that that's the music ds has gone for, because it's probably the least played genre in our house, so to differentiate himself, it's either that, generic pop or dance. And he's too full of his sense of superiority for generic pop.

Hi dad!

My DGS aged 20 likes TTC, he's going with his sister to a London gig. It's not for me, but then my father hated the Monkees and the Rolling Stones!

I, on the other hand, am totally obsessed with Ren such an amazing multi-talented artiste. His music is brilliant, his collaborations are excellent, particular favourite atm is .
The videos are for our time, and Ren's story has touched so many people.

I think we have to let young people rebel, especially when grannies like me will insist on liking current music trends!
I usually try to discuss the ideas behind the tracks and lyrics.

Yes. But then, I do find the music I'm drawn to is still what I'd have liked at 16 (mysterines, Bob vylan, amyl and the sniffers), so anything like that sounds 'old' to kids brought up on beastie boys/ratm/ rancid.

Me and my chums went to all sorts of gigs from the age of 14, and were up to all sorts of mischief by the age of 16, out on the town (I'm now early 30s). It was great! We're all fine, and look back fondly on those times. I think all this molly-coddling just gives the message "No. The world isn't safe. You're not safe. Nothing's okay!!!" and contributes to anxiety, myself. Our one friend who did have an overprotective and controlling mother, went fully off at the deep end the second she was old enough (16), and is now a recovering alcoholic.

What is it like safety wise at these big venues? In terms of other people - I’m imagining loads of gangster types taking drugs, fighting and sexually harassing young girls. But I’ve never been to a big concert and hadn’t heard of this person till today.

under 16s probably won’t be allowed and if they are they’ll need an adult. he’s not a gangster rapper and he’s also queer and very much not misogynistic. we love going to concerts as a family and enjoying music together- it’s one of my kids passions and mine- i’m not a huge fan of tyler and these tickets are extortionate but it’s ridiculous to ban an artist- your kid will just resent you and not share their passions with you.

This is my experience. Controlling childhood then once let free at 16 I went off the rails.

I'm a worrier and definitely overprotective of mine, but I don't control what mine do (within reason) I just annoy them by fretting! But that leads to putting safe travel options in place, ensuring I know who they're with and a back up plan if said travel plans fall through (can you tell I'm rural and worry about transport!)

No big venue is like that. It's bad for business. There'll be door security, bag checks, bouncers everywhere. It'll be clean and full of middle-class teenagers who want to feel street and their anxious middle-aged parents. Fighting would be shut down immediately - frequently the artist would stop and refuse to play further until anyone making trouble is ejected.

Big venues are safe and sanitised for insurance and liability purposes, no matter who is playing.

TTC has gone through huge learned change, I actually think he's a very interesting artist in terms of lyrics and how he's changed his view/message.

I struggle to see why you have a problem with them listen to his music (and the associated YouTube videos that will be suggested, which will be much worse). Surely he's already listening?

I say that as someone who lied to her mum to go and watch The Offspring when she was 15. I'm a huge music fan now, and a pretty well rounded, stable adult. Self esteem isn't exactly an empowering, woman friendly anthem...

Are you me? I saw the original Fleetwood Mac at 13 and Led Zeppelin, Edgar Broughton, Taste, Status Quo,Yes,King Crimson. Too many to mention! Great times, I feel sorry for kids these days.

@RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames depending where you live 16 year olds can't get married anymore and even if they could does anyone actually think that is a good idea! Can't imagine thinking a 16yo is mature if they think getting married at that age is the way forward

My DS is going, it's not my cup of tea but seems to be very much what they're into at the moment.

My 15yo is going.

She's loved Tyler for years.

Some of his songs are real ear worms, listen to See You Again.

At her age I was travelling round the country following the Insane Clown Posse on their UK tour 🤣🤣

It's at the 02 - will probably lots of kids with their dads (well DS will be anyway).

@NewGreenDuck I'm jealous - I never got to see Led Zeppelin. There were some wonderful bands around in those days. I remember my mum taking me to the doctor when I was 14 when I went completely deaf after a night standing at the front of the stage by the speaker when I went to see Stray 😆😆. I was really excited to find thst they were still going about ten years ago, and saw them many times again before Covid.

@RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames Lol, you could be my mum. I grew up rurally, and despite my parents letting me have free reign as to what I actually DID, the rules were I had to know how I was getting home safely, I had to always be with a friend, and I had to check in with my mum and dad, and let them know where I was. Which I thought was fair, so I always obeyed the three golden rules... whilst drinking cheap, red wine and throwing myself around a moshpit.

As if it was any different when we grew up!

I'm 52 and grew up listening to NWA - the language is absolutely not worse now.

Do what you will, with your child. It’s not that difficult

You shouldn't let him go he is very demonic his concerts are dangerous my 16 year old girl was trampled on by mindless imbeciles. The music he does has been anaylised and has demonic meaning. Trust me dont let your child suffer.

Goodness me, let him go! The music isn't my cup of tea but he's a fascinating artist and it's worth getting curious about him and his story. Teens need an outlet and need safe opportunities to get out and explore themselves/ the world through music. I let my DS see Tyler the Creator at about 12 yo and he is still a straight A student and hasn't gone off the deep end.

Usually 14+ to go alone Mine went from that age, in fact dd2 was a little younger and was slightly worried about being asked proof of age but she wasn't.