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My teen wants to go to his concert; this looks horrifying to me, am I just out of touch?

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TwinklyTaupePanda · 27/10/2024 12:42

Is this acceptable pop music videos, and I'm just over-protective, and out of touch with the current music culture 'norm'?

is the new teaser video. Is this, absolutely fine, and safe, for 14yo - 16yo, to go with peers, to see the concert of this new album?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkZ4dLMH-B8

OP posts:
MermaidEyes · 27/10/2024 12:45

What do you consider to be wrong with it?

cheezncrackers · 27/10/2024 12:46

If it makes you feel uncomfortable, then say no OP. The language alone makes it unsuitable for a 14-year-old IMO and I'd never let such a young DC go to a concert without a parent present (in fact, it may not be legal?). I've said No to every concert my DS (16) has wanted to go to in the past with friends, because I just wasn't comfortable. Other parents make other decisions, but that's up to them.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 27/10/2024 12:49

You'll find most venues stipulate anyone under 16 must be accompanied by someone over 18. A few also say under 16s must be seated rather than standing (if the venue is standing only sometimes it's 16+ entry as a blanket rule).

LauderSyme · 27/10/2024 12:53

I was going to say the video mostly just seems edgy and creative until the POV mass murder bit at the end!

I think many teens have probably seen much worse but I'd make my 15 year old wait a few years before going to a concert without an adult.

Greenbike · 27/10/2024 12:59

LauderSyme · 27/10/2024 12:53

I was going to say the video mostly just seems edgy and creative until the POV mass murder bit at the end!

I think many teens have probably seen much worse but I'd make my 15 year old wait a few years before going to a concert without an adult.

??? In a few years a 15 year old will be an adult and won’t need anyone’s permission.

No view on this specific band but all the posters here saying they don’t let their 15/16 year olds go to concerts without parents at all make me rather sad. Going to gigs with your mates is a fairly normal part of being a teenager.

Clarabella77 · 27/10/2024 13:02

This is Tyler the Creator and he is hugely popular among teens. This whole genre is massive tbh and there are a lot of problematic language and themes, but I take the view that every generation has its subculture of music that feels wrong to the generation before. In my day is was rave and music that heavily promoted drug use. Enjoying it didn't turn me into a permanent pill head.

My son has asked for tickets for his 16th birthday and I will be getting them. I stay curious about the music he likes and try to have discussions around the themes. I think they listen for the beats rather than the words and the energy at gigs. There can be a LOT of moshing but my son who has been to a few gigs knows his limits with that.

It's valid to say no, it's an individual choice but music and gig-going was a huge part of my teenage life so I am more inclined to support this, and my son is vaguely interested in a music-related career.

Jessie1259 · 27/10/2024 14:34

Tyler the Creator has played a lot of the big festivals here and is very popular although it sounds a load of rubbish to my old ears.

If you go on the Tickermaster site it will tell you are the age restrictions for each venue he's playing at under 'more info'. He will probably have to be seated and may need an 18 year old to accompany him but it does vary.

Here4thechocs · 27/10/2024 14:36

cheezncrackers · 27/10/2024 12:46

If it makes you feel uncomfortable, then say no OP. The language alone makes it unsuitable for a 14-year-old IMO and I'd never let such a young DC go to a concert without a parent present (in fact, it may not be legal?). I've said No to every concert my DS (16) has wanted to go to in the past with friends, because I just wasn't comfortable. Other parents make other decisions, but that's up to them.

I agree, totally

TeenToTwenties · 27/10/2024 16:14

Greenbike · 27/10/2024 12:59

??? In a few years a 15 year old will be an adult and won’t need anyone’s permission.

No view on this specific band but all the posters here saying they don’t let their 15/16 year olds go to concerts without parents at all make me rather sad. Going to gigs with your mates is a fairly normal part of being a teenager.

I have never understood the 'in a few years....' argument.
The OP us asking about now, not in 3 years when her teen will be 3 years more mature.

(Ditto, nursey full time at 3 to get used to it before school at 4.5, walking home alone y4 because they will do it in y7, not guiding during gcses as they will need to do uni alone).

Yes there are steps to independence but you don't need to do things years ahead, just lay the path.

Gizlotsmum · 27/10/2024 16:28

Most venues don’t allow under 16’s to go without someone over 18 so worth checking out the venue. I think it’s less about the type of music and more about if your teen would know what to do if something went wrong, are they sensible? Have they been to many gigs? Would you going as well be an option?

Moonshiners · 27/10/2024 16:31

cheezncrackers · 27/10/2024 12:46

If it makes you feel uncomfortable, then say no OP. The language alone makes it unsuitable for a 14-year-old IMO and I'd never let such a young DC go to a concert without a parent present (in fact, it may not be legal?). I've said No to every concert my DS (16) has wanted to go to in the past with friends, because I just wasn't comfortable. Other parents make other decisions, but that's up to them.

Oh your poor son. Many of my best memories of my teenage years where it gigs and concerts with my friends.
You only get to experience them at this age once. It's such an amazing collective feeling and missing out on it is something they can't go back and do. That tastes will change the bands will split up and the regret will always be there.

cheezncrackers · 27/10/2024 16:36

@Moonshiners there's a big difference between going to Take That and going to see a gangster rapper with nasty misogynistic lyrics at a venue in London that finishes late on a school night. But you do you. My 'poor' DS doesn't go without much tbh, but I think he can live without the above!

Anicecumberlandsausage · 27/10/2024 16:51

Thw language in the video is no worse than what I hear on the tube from teenagers these days. The video reminded me of Childish Gambino, in an abstract way. I've not heard of this artist before but at nearly 11m views after only 9 days he's clearly very popular. I wasn't offended by it at all. Maybe the imagery makes you uncomfortable? Maybe that's the point?

Kids will always want to go to things parents disapprove of. It's Teenager Life 101.

ThoraZ · 27/10/2024 16:52

Doesn’t seem any worse to me than korn, slipknot, Marilyn Manson etc from when I was a teen. Music is just an art form. People go to galleries and look at famous paintings by Bosch etc, they go to cinemas and watch horror movies. That music to is meh imo, the video is a bit try hard to me as an adult but I get why a teenager would like it. They’re supposed to like things that their parents just don’t get.

Epli · 27/10/2024 16:56

I'll be going to this one, if I can get the tickets. I understand you're troubled by lamguage, but he's likely to be listening to it already anyway? The audience is likely to be middle class teens and aging hipsters lol.

SantanaBinLorry · 27/10/2024 17:01

My 16 yrold hoping to get tickets. Im just gutted he won't let me go with him!
On the list for Manchester tix 🤞

StaunchMomma · 27/10/2024 17:03

Tyler the Creator is huge and this tour is being massively hyped. I'm sure there are A LOT of teens desperate to attend.

You can't really judge an artist on one video and I honestly think it's a bit OTT to try to 'protect' 14-16 year old from rappers.

It's all a bit Mary Whitehouse to be shocked by such things.

I'd let them go but maybe insist on dropping off/picking up, especially if they've not been to gigs before.

StaunchMomma · 27/10/2024 17:06

Epli · 27/10/2024 16:56

I'll be going to this one, if I can get the tickets. I understand you're troubled by lamguage, but he's likely to be listening to it already anyway? The audience is likely to be middle class teens and aging hipsters lol.

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No different from my friends parents being outraged by NWA & Public Enemy in my day.

I'm so glad I had 'cool' parents who allowed me to listen to such things. Those whose parents didn't approved still listened, they just hid it.

People forget that those of us in our 50's grew up with hiphop. This is in no way a new or scary thing!

Oblomov24 · 27/10/2024 17:12

I hope you will allow.

Epli · 27/10/2024 17:27

SantanaBinLorry · 27/10/2024 17:01

My 16 yrold hoping to get tickets. Im just gutted he won't let me go with him!
On the list for Manchester tix 🤞

Good luck with the tickets! Come to London with me! :d

Squidge123 · 29/10/2024 13:21

Got my 16year old tickets for Birmingham today with his 2 friends, Amex presale today so at least I have avoided the stress tomorrow!

SuziQuinto · 29/10/2024 13:26

Greenbike · 27/10/2024 12:59

??? In a few years a 15 year old will be an adult and won’t need anyone’s permission.

No view on this specific band but all the posters here saying they don’t let their 15/16 year olds go to concerts without parents at all make me rather sad. Going to gigs with your mates is a fairly normal part of being a teenager.

Yes, but they're not 18 now. That's the whole point.

foxandbee · 29/10/2024 13:34

It is part of being a teenager to love music that shocks your parents. It was the Sex Pistols et al in my day.

BourbonsAreOverated · 29/10/2024 13:45

Take them and loiter at the back? Thats what I do.
different genre of music, some I like some I don’t. But I take mine and their friends

Pureasthedrivensnowww · 29/10/2024 13:52

Poor kid @cheezncrackers. going to gigs at 15/16 at some sweaty venue was the making of my teenage years. And no, my mum and dad didn’t ’get’ my music then. Same as it ever was.

And all his friends are going? And you’ll consider letting him go when he’s 18? He’ll probably move out as soon as he can I expect.