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Issues with 19yr Step-Son

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curseofkazar · 20/12/2021 03:15

First time poster here... and I'm at my wit's end.

I've been with my wife for just over 10 years. I have a 16yr old daughter from a previous marriage, and my wife has a 17yr old daughter and a 19yr old son from hers.

When my wife and I got together, I understood that bringing up kids that weren't your own would be difficult, but my step-son is making my life a living hell and is driving a wedge between me and my wife.

In 2016, my wife and I bought out first house together. We literally kept it a secret from the kids with the surprise of moving them in on Christmas Day. We went to enormous effort to give all 3 kids the bedrooms of their dreams. Literally everything in their rooms was new. It was like something out of DIY SOS.

I'm not expecting the bedrooms to have stayed in show-home condition, but my 19 year old stepson's room in particular is disgusting. You can't see the floor, he hasn't made his bed in months, beer bottles all over the place, rubbish on the floor, his pillow looks like the back of Father Jack's armchair from Father Ted, and his bedroom smells like something has died.

For years I have been pushing him to declutter and get rids of things that he no longer uses or is broken. But the fact of the matter is he's a hoarder. He can't let go of his childhood.

The state of his room is symbolic of his life. He puts in no effort, he procrastinates whenever we tell him he needs to tidy up,

Since leaving 6th form, we pushed him into getting a job. He hasn't yet decided on a career and I don't think it's at the fore-front of his mind. He works in a supermarket most days from 1pm til 10pm. My wife/his mum (who is training to be a driving instructor) collects him every evening and gives him a driving lesson on the way home.

We give him and the other kids a daily chore before work / school and he constantly (conveniently?) forgets to do it. I've lost count how many times his laziness and disrespect has caused arguments between me and my wife, and it's affecting the rest of the household. My wife and I constantly discuss his behaviour and she gets on the defensive saying he's just a "typical teenager". But I don't agree. The boy has a serious issue and she is not addressing it. When she says she'll have a word with him, including laying out the consequences we've agreed on of not tidying his room or pulling his weight, she waters them down to the point where it has no effect. We then end up arguing and I end up just losing my rag. Suddenly, it's me that's "not normal".

I literally get to the point where I feel like I don't want to be in the house anymore. It's driven me to depression and I'm now taking anti-depressives. There's been times when I've just wanted to get in my car, turn off my phone and drive- as far away as possible. Anything to raise a point as I feel like I don't have the support of my wife on this matter. The only thing stopping me is the thought of leaving my own daughter there worrying about me.

My daughter is spending more and more time and my ex-wife's house and I can't blame her from wanting to be there with all the arguments it's causing.

Things have literally just come to a head. Again, we've told him he needs to tidy his room and he gives excuses for not doing it. To make matters worse, my wife is going through a health-scare at the moment and we are waiting on test results from a scan. I just explained this to my step-son, explaining that regardless of whether the results turn out to be nothing to worry about or not, one day his mum might not be around, and why it's important for him to start taking responsibility and help out more but there was no reaction from him. He literally doesn't care and carried on playing on his Xbox.

I asked him how he thinks he repays his mum for everything she does for him. After a long silence, I got "I do my chores" (no you don't), "I pay £90 a month towards the bills ("ok... but you're getting off lightly on that. Should be more), "I take my plates down to the dishwasher" (again, no you don't and that's what's caused this particular argument).

The situation is driving me insane. Anyone got any decent coping mechanisms or advice on dealing with his behaviour? I have this fear that he will still be living under the same roof in 10 years time with the same attitude and sense of self-entitlement.

OP posts:
curseofkazar · 21/12/2021 14:11

Latest update is I asked my wife to remind him that he needs his second COVID jab. Working in a supermarket exposes him to the risk.

When she reminded him, the conversation went on for about 10 minutes with him trying to give my wife every excuse under the sun not to have it.

"My arm will ache and I won't be able to do my job".
"The 2nd jab won't stop me from getting Covid"

He has no rational thought and I seriously think he has a form of ADHD. I'm desperate for my wife to get him assessed but she says "all that will do is label him". I pointed out that at least he'll get help and I'll be able to get help in being able to find coping mechanisms for it.

As I say, the messy bedroom isn't really the underlying issue here. It's symbolic of something deeper.

OP posts:
Lovemusic33 · 21/12/2021 15:07

He does sound similar to my dd, she can argue about anything and everything (luckily she’s very pro vaccine but has been venting to everyone else to get vaccinated and is currently refusing to go anywhere because one of her friend tested positive), my dd has Aspergers and suspected ADHD, her organisation skills are pretty poor which is why her bedrooms always a mess.

SportsMother · 21/12/2021 15:16

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MrsTerryPratchett · 21/12/2021 15:23

He has no rational thought and I seriously think he has a form of ADHD. I'm desperate for my wife to get him assessed but she says "all that will do is label him". I pointed out that at least he'll get help and I'll be able to get help in being able to find coping mechanisms for it.

The great thing about ADHD parenting is that it works on NT children too. So just use the skills, and if he's NT it won't do any harm.

Whattochoosenow · 21/12/2021 16:02

You keep telling him what to do and doing things for him
It simply doesn’t work for young adults.
Of course he doesn’t want to work in a job YOU got for him. There’s no sense of achievement on his part.
If afraid this needs a whole change of tack, bu it means changing ingrained behaviours on your part first.

Cas112 · 21/12/2021 16:14

@curseofkazar

Latest update is I asked my wife to remind him that he needs his second COVID jab. Working in a supermarket exposes him to the risk.

When she reminded him, the conversation went on for about 10 minutes with him trying to give my wife every excuse under the sun not to have it.

"My arm will ache and I won't be able to do my job".
"The 2nd jab won't stop me from getting Covid"

He has no rational thought and I seriously think he has a form of ADHD. I'm desperate for my wife to get him assessed but she says "all that will do is label him". I pointed out that at least he'll get help and I'll be able to get help in being able to find coping mechanisms for it.

As I say, the messy bedroom isn't really the underlying issue here. It's symbolic of something deeper.

Why don't you just leave then.

You will be happy not having to be around him then, mum and son will probably be a lot happier as well

Geppili · 21/12/2021 16:25

@PinkLadyFriday

"driven from a complete lack of understanding about how horrific teenage step children can be."

Maybe some of the posters are coming from a complete lack of understanding how horrific middle-aged step parents can be.

SpaceshiptoMars · 21/12/2021 16:39

Maybe some of the posters are coming from a complete lack of understanding how horrific middle-aged step parents can be.

This one cares. If he didn't, he wouldn't come back for help. He has ensured that his SS is able to support himself - one of the vital tasks of parenting - to leave your children able to manage without you when you are gone.

crimsonlake · 21/12/2021 16:51

Maybe if you and your wife stopped treating him like a child he would start acting like an adult.

Bussinbussin · 21/12/2021 20:40

This young man and his mother have made it abundantly clear that they do not welcome your opinions on, or interference in, his life.

Why are you hellbent on causing so much stress and conflict in your home by going on and on about it?

Many of us on here have got you pegged as the kind of man who expects everyone to respect his opinion and is used to getting his own way. Now there's another man in your home who's not falling into line and treating you as the Alpha... and the loss of control is so unbearable you've ended up medicated. I'll bet everyone in that house is equally miserable.

One more time in case you missed it:
THEY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

Back off or back out, those are your choices. No matter how angry you get, no matter how many people you can get to agree with you on here with your laundry list of things wrong with him, you won't change who he is. He's tuned you out.

SpaceshiptoMars · 22/12/2021 10:15

Many of us on here have got you pegged as the kind of man who expects everyone to respect his opinion and is used to getting his own way. Now there's another man in your home who's not falling into line and treating you as the Alpha... and the loss of control is so unbearable you've ended up medicated. I'll bet everyone in that house is equally miserable.

Actually, if the OP was used to getting his own way, this whole situation would have turned out differently. SS would have been moved to a room close to his job, with the 1st months rent paid and SS responsible from then on!

SpaceshiptoMars · 22/12/2021 10:18

The OP reminds me of how my Dad was when I got involved with a very unsuitable boyfriend.Grin Sorry Dad, you were right....

Brakebackcyclebot · 22/12/2021 10:48

Nothing is ever black & white. OP your situation reminds me of my own. I am mum to 2 teen DSs, eldest 18. Divorced from their dad and remarried. We all lived together for 6 years. In the beginning all was rosy. DSs respected DH, he was great with them and we were very happy.

Late teens came, DSs started wanting more say, their rooms were a tip, smelly, plates etc as you describe. My approach is to talk, to ask them to bring dirty stuff down, to communicate. DH approach was to complain a lot, challenge them a lot, put a lot of rules in place. Fundamentally we parent very differently. He thinks my way is weak and ineffectual, and he made that very clear. I think his way is confrontational and exhausting.

Our house grew tense. DSs were unhappy. I was on edge, waiting for the next row to erupt. DH was depressed, which manifested itself in more grumpiness, being ultra-critical, moaning all the time. He had nothing positive to say about them or me.

We are separated now. We both have a very different view of what happened and what broke down between us. We failed to listen effectively to each other. We didn't work together, and we both started to detach from what was hurting, ie. each other.

Step parenting, especially of teens, is spectacularly difficult and very easy to fuck up. Parenting of trend is challenging enough in itself. Step parenting is a whole different level of challenge.

chinabumps85 · 22/12/2021 11:01

Honestly OP you should have came on here asking for help as if you were a woman talking about her own son instead of SS.
I guarantee the responses would have been way different.

I think the OP DOES care about his SS hence why he's come on here for help.
I also don't see why the state of his room should be tolerated just because he's a 'young adult.' I really don't understand these replies

SportsMother · 22/12/2021 11:46

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SpaceshiptoMars · 22/12/2021 12:10

Now maybe for you, no price is too great in ensuring that it is Thy Will which is done. Good for you!

@SportsMother Perhaps you are in a position to offer all your children a roof, until they can either rent or buy a flat by themselves. Not everyone is. One of my DSC stayed with us (FT) until 30, and still needed to rent in shared flat.

In a shared rental, you rely on your flatmates being sufficiently domesticated to stem the tide of trash and the suffocating build-up of possessions. If they don't, they end up encroaching first on shared spaces, and, if you take no action, on your own personal space.

You may not consider it your duty as a citizen to adequately socialize your child, but other people do!

chinabumps85 · 22/12/2021 12:57

@SportsMother I honestly don't even know what you're talking about

SportsMother · 22/12/2021 14:03

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chinabumps85 · 22/12/2021 15:10

@SportsMother you're literally putting words in my mouth😂 as quoted, I said I didn't see why the state of his room should be tolerated. This is because pp were saying to leave him to it, it's his room and you can't force him to clean it etc.
Nowhere did I say anything about 'enforcing compliance to my will by whatever tactics are needed.' You actually sound like a loon just making that up out of nowhere.

I never suggested any ways for the OP to encourage SS to clean his room so how do you know I didn't agree with your approach? All I said is it shouldn't be tolerated and it shouldn't. Please go and make things up and put words in another posters mouth bye

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