Is your teen 'a gangsta from the hood'?!?!

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My 14 year old son speaks in rap and I have no clue what he is talking about most of the time. Lots of 'blud' 'bruva' and sucking his teeth. Funnily enough, he is neither from the hood nor a gangsta and we are a fairly normal family! We don't live in The Bronx and we don't wear soverign rings!
When oh when will he return to normal? Anyone else's teen doing this?

If I'm deluded, then so is the dictionary.

iwanna who wrote the dictionary?

Let's take a guess.

Oh yeah, it was white people.

@majorie Peng means amazing and can be used to described a person who's hot or an object that is amazing.

why is it naive and ignorant? I'm just asking a question as I've experienced racism** it is because it's not just about you. If you look at the area you are talking about and how many people of colour ageing held against their will, yes, it's naive to compare the two on society level and belief. And no, I am not denying your experience . But the amount of black and Asian people being mistreated in the Middle East far out ways it. You are more likely to protected than any of them. You are more likely to be given help than any of them.

buster if you're white, you've experienced prejudice, not racism.

I live in Korea. I get stared at every day. People make judgements about me based on my race. People are amazed that I can use chopsticks.

Yes, it sucks, yes it's annoying.

But I can still go to the cinema and see people who look like me in movies. People want to speak the language I grew up speaking. People want to dress in the clothes that I grew up wearing. My skin tone is desirable. No one looks at me and thinks I must be the cleaner. No one looks at me and thinks I'm uneducated. People don't clutch their bags closer to themselves when I pass them on the street. People don't throw out my job applications when they see my name. Children don't make monkey noises at me.

So while I might experience prejudice, I don't experience racism. They are quite different things, as any sociologist will tell you.

No one is denying that you might be given a hard time. I get it. I get it every day. Sometimes I even get it from my husband's family. But it is NOT the same thing as racism.

Dictionaries get revised all the time. People work very hard to produce objective definitions. I think we can't just change the meaning of words because some people feel that X is true, when that is not a universally accepted position.

iwanna So why trust the dictionary definition and not someone else's definition. Why is the dictionary writer more trustworthy than a sociologist or a historian of race?

Forgetting the dictionary: do you really think that, on a social level, prejudice against white people is as bad as it is against black people?

Okay, i see what you are saying, I'm still baffled as to why it's not racism but I understand what you are saying, you do not need to explain it anymore.
I personally still think it is racism as I'm being judged on the colour of my skin, there may be others judged more harshly below me but I'm still being judged on my skin colour.

But that is prejudice not racism.

Racism is systematic.

www.debbyirving.com/qa/are-prejudice-bigotryand-racism-the-same-thing Maybe this explains it better than I am doing.

I think the dictionary strives to be objective, which is why I think it's better to accept it's definition. People who specialise in particular areas (not only talking about race here) will bring their own feelings/bias/political leanings into it. It's very hard to be completely neutral when defining things. You see it in the study of history, with historians interpreting past events through the lens of their own experience, culture and viewpoint.
I'm not saying though, that your definition is wrong, I believe power can be an element of racism but is not the sole element iyswim.

To answer your question, I think it depends where you live. I think the minority in a population will be the ones to experience prejudice/racism.

This thread has very racist undertones about what it means to be black, it is clear that the media has succeeded in portraying black people so negatively that ordinary people can not see beyond this.

Not every black person is 'street'

Worth repeating.

Give him a slap lol

When I was about 10, I got a little book of Lancy sayings, wore a flat cap, put on the broadest Lancy accent I could muster to say thing like, "Ee's as useless as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest," or "Mah mouth tastes lahk th'inside of Turkish wrestler's jockstrap."

We'd moved to Lancashire a year before. I wanted to fit in (!)

Ah right thanks pikapikachu

iam you say: “People want to speak the language I grew up speaking. People want to dress in the clothes that I grew up wearing” because you are white.
But the 11 yo is feeling the same about black culture, she wants to dress in the clothes, speak the language. She is being told she can’t though. How can we embrace different cultures and include them if we are being told it’s appropriation? Not just black culture either, Japanese, Chinese? I’m sure kimonos are out of bounds now too.

So much BS on this thread. Go into any deprived ghetto ridden inner city area in this country and the white teenage boys are dressing and speaking just as much ‘gansta’ as the black boys. It’s a class based cultural way of being and us certainly not exclusive to the black kids. None of these kids equate this to being black. Grime isn’t considered black music. It’s considered street music.

So if there’s any cultural appropriation going on it’s class rather than race.

Most cultural appropriation is BS anyway. It’s gone from the serious and valid point of suggesting to white girls that wearing their hair in corn rows may be showing a lack of historical understanding to telling people they can’t use an Irish or Hindi names if they’re not Irish or Hindu. Such crap degrades and invalidates the entire argument.

As a teacher every teen I teach adopts, adapts, attempts whatever language is considered cool. The poster saying white people can't experience racism Rather insulting and ignorant of genocides such as The Holocaust, I find your attitude incredibly patronising and ignorant. Leave Nigels
Child alone

@TheLastNigel what is black culture? One it’s not one homogeneous mass. Two, most of the people I know (my age) are at least third generation which means the children now are most like fourth/fifth generation. Culturally it makes them British.
I actually applaud her for learning how to care for Afro hair if she goes into hairdressing. It might mean BAME women/men aren’t met with I don’t know how to do your hair a bit less. Strangely BAME hairdressers do white hair.

My brother did this. Affected a limp and everything . It was hilarious. He is mixed race but both my parents were embarrassed because his behaviour was indictative of being Working Class not black. They had both struggled out of poverty to give me and my brother a middle class up bringing and to see him acting 'common' as my mother would say was horrifying to them. I agree that is 'street' culture not black culture . What is ' black culture' anyway? I have lived all over Africa and there are thousands of distinct cultures. I think its more American influenced, poor ,working class, urban culture they are emulating.

Thanks @IAmAlwaysLikeThis and @IWannaSeeHowItEnds I do see what you are saying, but I also believe outside of the western world racism does exist towards whites. I'm not being goady it's just what I believe.

I agree with you @TheWaiting.

But the 11 yo is feeling the same about black culture, she wants to dress in the clothes, speak the language fuck off. How is this being black. It's the same bs we are talking about.

So much BS on this thread. Go into any deprived ghetto ridden inner city area in this country and the white teenage boys are dressing and speaking just as much ‘gansta’ as the black boys. It’s a class based cultural way of being and us certainly not exclusive to the black kids. None of these kids equate this to being black. Grime isn’t considered black music. It’s considered street music. Well put.

Thanks?^