Is your teen 'a gangsta from the hood'?!?!

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My 14 year old son speaks in rap and I have no clue what he is talking about most of the time. Lots of 'blud' 'bruva' and sucking his teeth. Funnily enough, he is neither from the hood nor a gangsta and we are a fairly normal family! We don't live in The Bronx and we don't wear soverign rings!
When oh when will he return to normal? Anyone else's teen doing this?

He's black and she wants to be black so why only limit that to a small minority of black people?

To black people have to be considered cool to be imitated?

Are the only cool black people the ones who talk in patois?

And Thankyou 7days, that's exactly it.

She doesn't class all black people as 'street'. The thread was about teenagers imitating accents and that was what I commented on.

For the record She doesn't (and nor do I) see all black people as being 'the same' anymore than we see all
White people as being the same.

This hasn't been a particularly pleasant debate and apologies Op for derailing your intended to be light hearted thread.

It's like a black person creating a humorous thread saying , 'my darling daughter is pretending to be so white trash, pregnant at 14 with a man who is always drunk lol. It not the same. Here you can separate white trash to other white people. The comments here is just for black culture. What they assume is black culture. There is a difference and huge one.

This thread makes my blood boil. I feel sorry for my child. She will have to put up with children of mentioned on this thread.

@TheLastNigel So why did you say she wants to be black as white people are boring and then continued to say she does so by speaking Street?

Do you realise how offensive it is for someone to "want" to be black?

@papergirl
You've reported a thread because people are pointing out racism?
@nigel
I don't know whether to laugh or cringe at your white blonde girl chatting in Jamaican patois at the village shop! Do you not realise how ridiculous this is? It's your job as a parent to teach her decency and respect and not palm everything off as silly child. Everyone else is saying they laugh at their kids for this behaviour as it's so ridiculous, you are the only one who thinks your DD is doing nothing wrong. Guaranteed her teachers are finding it completely bizarre.

@quencher Agree totally.

Sorry, but as some of those comments are clearly directed at me and other teachers 'reminding the boys they are white', I don't, I remind those (white, brown, black) boys that they aren't gangstas, but generally are nice, privileged boys (not necessarily in money or background, but because they're going to a good school and have people who care about them) who have families who would be shocked and upset at the way they prize gangsta culture and use words such as 'shank' and other prison slang.
I remind them because I dont bloody care what colour they are, or where they are from, they should aspire to more. Regardless of the music they listen to, their culture, their language, appropriating gang culture, like walking with a limp as your 'piece' is too heavy to walk normally isn't what they should be aiming for, and when they are reminded or informed that's what it means, they often stop it.
We have a massive problem with county lines where I teach, and gangs do exist, they seek out boys like the ones I teach as they are a good cover. If reminding them of the reality of that and pointing out they actually have the opportunity to do better for themselves and that acting like that makes them look silly is racist, well fuck me, I really just don't know anymore.

She doesn't class all black people as 'street'. The thread was about teenagers imitating accents and that was what I commented on. Actually you did. By referring to Afro, unknowingly or knowingly you did. It's part of the whole look your child is going for or would hope to go for.

This hasn't been a particularly pleasant debate and apologies Op for derailing your intended to be light hearted thread. It was not light hearted. I am sitting here and reading this out loud and cringe at every each example given.

It's not funny and this is the same as those who start light hearted threads about what their kids say and most will be filled by racist things their children say and do. They find it cringe and yet they have the nerve to come and post it while laughing about.

Yes I do see it as a tad ridiculous, where did I say anything else? It doesn't bother me especially. I said I find it a bit endearing. I do. I also find it endearing when she does her Scottish accent (less frequently and for comedic effect-no doubt now a whole lot of Scottish people
Will come and tell me I'm racist for that as well)
I consider it similarly to everyone else on this thread. None of whom have also said their kids are doing anything 'wrong'.
I'm not encouraging it particularly. Nor could I probably stop her doing it when I'm not around, anymore than my Mum could have stopped me saying 'our kid' like Liam Gallagher when I was 11.

Do I see it as offensive to want to be black?
No tbh, I don't. Not in the way she means it. She wants to look like Rhianna, she thinks Beyoncé is stunning, she loves Lady Leshurr-she wants to look like them. They are all black women. She never will, in the same way I was
never going to look like celebrities I admired when I was young.

I can see that nothing I say will convince you that dd is not a deliberate and terrible racist (and nor am I) and that anything other than that won't do for you-so let's call it quits here shall we?

Bookworm no, because as stated it’s become a slanging match.
I don’t think anyone meant to cause offence, and I think we can all learn from this.
Goodnight, all.

@TheLastNigel
Most posters said they laughed or found it silly. You said you found it endearing. Not one other poster said their child wanted to be black because being white is boring.

Do you think it's fun to be black when you're pulled over by police? Refused entry into a club? Denied a job? Falsely accused?

You clearly have no idea of the problems we face.

Why don't you take your daughter to Peckham to see how she enjoys pretending to be black there? I'm sure she'd be welcomed with open arms.

*o I see it as offensive to want to be black?
No tbh, I don't. Not in the way she means it. She wants to look like Rhianna, she thinks Beyoncé is stunning, she loves Lady Leshurr-she wants to look like them. They are all black women. She never will, in the same way I was *
The only common thing they have is being black. Their looks are not the same. And you are still defending your comment re-blackness/culture and all the negative serotypes. Come on.

Honey G. Remember her anyone? Was she racist?

What is evident from these comments asking if certain things are racist is that ignorance is so high.

Honey G. Remember her anyone? Was she racist? She was a joke. Everyone saw something they could laugh. Ha ha a white woman trying to be something she is not. Ha ha this is really good entertainment. The only way she got that far was because she was white and Mediocre. If she was black, the bar would be a lot higher. I cringed ever time I saw her. I would not be surprised if one of the parents on here is hers. They sure sound like it.

Her whole look was the joke and the source of entertainment.

Well before we lived here we lived in Tottenham as it goes...I work in mental
Health in Tower Hamlets where 80% of my service users are of BME origin
I've got plenty of awareness (though obviously not lived experience) of the issues black people face, particularly in deprived areas of London.

You have called my DD's admiration of black people and culture of black origin racist.
You are of course entitled to your own opinion. I think you have made some unfair comments and assumptions-but that's the way it goes I guess on Internet forums.

I wish you all the best regardless.

@TheLastNigel yes it's the internet and we can only take and use the information provided.

You have called my DD's admiration of black people and culture of black origin racist
She might or she might not be racist.
Well I hope not. I can only respond based on what you have written.

It's ridiculous to say TheLastNigel's 11 year old is racist because she wants to be like the people she admires.

So it's not okay for an 11 year old to like black culture but it's okay to bully another poster and criticize her young daughter. Nice one.

@TheLastNigel
Is calling the "gentle" "older lady" in the shop 'cuz' endearing as well? Awful and so very rude

So much cringe in what you've written and the way you've defended it.

I can't think of many things less likely and more ludicrous than an 11 year old white girl pretending to be black in a little village on the arse end of the West Country. I think B.S.

I remember reading on here a couple of years ago about someone’s DS calling the police ‘da feds’. For some reason I adopted this turn of phrase until DD aged 5 said it to her teachers when a police car passed them on a school trip. According to another parent on the trip, the teachers found it hilarious.

My older DS has this new thing where he leaves the last sound off words. Do anybody else’s DC do this? Is it a thing? For instance, if he’s hungry, he’ll stand there wailing “I need some fooooo” instead of ‘food’. Drives me mad.

I remember in my peer group it was considered cool to be black. We had a (white, redhead) girl at school who claimed she was a white Jamaican. She spoke like a Jamaican and everything. The thing was, her sister was completely normal and spoke like any other person from our part of town.

I asked my son once if he 'got me' (do you get me?) he's 10 and thought I was deranged. Ha ha. I called him Bro the other day too. We watch (husband and me) a lot of American crime box sets, where the black AND white characters talk in this way. I love it when (son) looks at me like I'm mental! Ha ha.