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Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

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Is parenting a teen adversely affecting your mh?

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Pegsinarow · 25/03/2019 14:32

I'm going through what feels like hell with one of my teen's atm.

Today she has told me that I'm a failure, that she hates me, that she wishes I was dead. The expression on her face was really hateful when she said it.

Normally I can shrug this off as "usual" teen angst. I was even advising my friend the other month about not taking this sort of stuff too personally.

But I am really struggling too now. Partly I suppose because my confidence isn't great anyway owing to the menopause.

Sorry if this sounds too "woe is me" but I just feel really crap atm.

Anyone else?

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Pegsinarow · 29/04/2019 07:53

Good morning Po Ts. Just popping in to wish everyone a good start to the week!

Lightandairy. Thank you for sharing your calming strategies! I think many of us are reluctant to exercise at the best of times, not to mention when we are at our lowest, so I can understand your son's reluctance. It's good that he is engaging with college and hopefully he'll feel able to branch out in time once his confidence improves.

Billybagpuss That's hopeful about your friend's ds! Thanks again for you wise words. I love the way you mention "healing" often. It's genuinely comforting somehow! (Don't take this the wrong way, but you don't happen to grow medicinal herbs, dress in purple, and own a white cat by any chance? Grin Grin. (Just kidding!). Your experience is invaluable on here. Flowers

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billybagpuss · 29/04/2019 08:21

Lol my cat is black, make of that what you will 😂😂

Pegsinarow · 29/04/2019 08:57

Now I'm worried Grin Grin

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LightandAiry · 29/04/2019 13:48

Billy That's reassuring re your friend's ds good luck to him going forwards.

Alone1971 · 29/04/2019 15:51

Been on Sertraline a week now so too early to notice a difference. DS currently grounded for hanging round with an older lad who smokes weed and was getting DS to have a go. How do I keep him safe? He knows the dangers but is a quiet shy lad who is easily impressed and influenced by peers. I don't think he is emotionally mature enough to be allowed out all day at weekends. Thoughts?

billybagpuss · 29/04/2019 20:55

How old is he @alone? That’s really hard as you want him to have some freedom but also what some idea of what he’s up to especially if he has been introduced to weed

Pegsinarow · 30/04/2019 07:26

Thanks Alone71; hope the ADs prove beneficial for you. Hope your ds ok. Fwiw, I think you are doing exactly the right thing by grounding and restricting his access to bad influences.

Slightly worried because it's surprisingly calm here ATM Grin. We had a slight tiff yesterday when I was helping DD rearrange her room better for study but stood my ground and said v v calmly I wouldn't tolerate rudeness, and to mind that I was doing her favour, and she immediately backed down and apologised. So that's definite progress , yay, as arguments like that often used to spiral downwards.

Wishing everyone a v calm day!

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Alone1971 · 30/04/2019 07:39

billybagpuss....he 's 13

billybagpuss · 30/04/2019 08:01

Mine were girls, if that makes a difference, but at 13 it would be 'can I meet whoever at the cinema, in town etc etc' we would drop and pick up and they'd usually be in touch during. It was very rarely more than 2 or 3 hours. If it was cinema we might go to see another film or something.

I tend to agree that for all day hanging around is too young. Although if you went on an AIBU thread you'd get the 'I was out from dawn til dusk' brigade. Which I was, but in fields and woods in a village not in a town hanging around street corners etc.

billybagpuss · 30/04/2019 08:02

We had a slight tiff yesterday when I was helping DD rearrange her room better for study but stood my ground and said v v calmly I wouldn't tolerate rudeness, and to mind that I was doing her favour, and she immediately backed down and apologised.

This is where this thread would have helped me back then, I would have been so pissed off at the rudeness it would have escalated.

Notcoolmum · 30/04/2019 09:02

I’ve cleared out my DDs room this week and painted it. It was literally like something out of a hoarders programme. I don’t know if it’s laziness of genuinely related to her mental health. I tried so hard to stay calm and thankfully for us both, a friend came over just as we moved her bed out. As I’d have gone ballistic over the state of it. All done now. I’m hoping it will help her to feel calmer and it removes an element of challenge between us. I hope!!

Pegsinarow · 30/04/2019 09:51

Well done Notcoolmum that sounds like a labour of love Halo but very much worth doing! Hope your dd is appreciative!

That's the thing Billy normally I would have lost my temper and it would have escalated. Thanks to what I have learned from everyone on this thread, I think two things have happened (1) I had the parent-child dynamic at the back of my mind and I know now to disengage and walk away if that doesn't succeed rather than descend to child-child and (2) having learned I am not alone, I feel a a teeny bit bit less of a failure than I did, which has given me an inkling of confidence again, which I think has translated in to dd knowing "I mean it" ifyswim. And with more confidence, I'm not letting the criticism and insults get to me so much. And in turn, my reactions are less strong.

I'm certain that there will be days ahead when I will have just as much doubt again and feel very wobbly, but for now, I feel as though I have more clarity about what to do and how to stand my ground a bit better and DD seems better for that too.

I think the confidence thing is important because teens like toddlers (and dare I say it without sounding too awful ) horses and dogs can "smell" ones state of mind and push boundaries accordingly. I'm not saying it's a power play but that they can sense whether your intentions are "true".

For example, if you are telling a toddler "no" - when they are covering their own face with paint or something - but you are secretly finding it funny and laughing to yourself, they can sense you don't mean it. (I am not comparing children to animals but this very same dynamic comes in to play when training horses and dogs. They can read you so accurately that if they can "smell" fear or uncertainty of intention, they won't bother to comply. It's only when you are relaxed and have the confidence of your convictions that they do what they are told ifyswim. However authoritative you appear on the outside, it's how you are feeling on the inside that counts. )

Just to be clear; obviously parenting teens in not all about imposing our authority and making them comply. More about guiding them to make better choices themselves. But sometimes we do meet a brick wall and really challenging resistance which can be confronting in the extreme. And confidence is helpful in those situations. And knowing you can handle those situations, helps you with the smaller more insignificant ones.

And I think teens do in general benefit from having a fairly stable frame to rattle Grin

Apologies for yet more amateur pysch ramblings! Just feel relieved that the negative cycle seems to have stopped spiralling down for a bit here!

[Give it 'til 4.30 pm and no doubt I will be back on the thread moaning about something or other again Grin ]

Thanks to all Po Ts for making it better for now Flowers

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Ticklingcheese · 30/04/2019 10:13

🤣 pegsinarow

Fwiw i get your animal analogy. At ours both the dog, cats and foal have had teenage trouble periods 😂. And yes they all sense if you are serious.

Pegsinarow · 30/04/2019 10:25

Phew Tickling Grin was worried in case everyone thought I line up the dc and instruct them to canter in to corners or something Grin

And agree, YY adolescent animals are the worst Grin

Oooh... you have a foal ???

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billybagpuss · 30/04/2019 10:33

My dog is in full on teenage mode at the moment. I had a gut feeling last Friday was going to be bad and yes we had the worst walk ever.

Training a dog has a lot of similarities with raising kids and they’ve even started using the dog clicker training method to train athletes as it marks the moment of the behaviour you want to imbed.

billybagpuss · 30/04/2019 10:35

The main difference between the dogs and kids at teenage stage though is the dog obviously still loves you. Whereas the teenagers do hold onto a lot of hatred during this time. (Please don’t take this the wrong way as I know they did love me it’s just easy to lose it in amidst all the angst)

Ticklingcheese · 30/04/2019 10:38

pegsinarow
Foal... Not ours was in the same paddock as my dd horse. Sadly had to be put down, as it ripped it's leg on the fences 😢.

But imagine if you went about your teen upbringing with STAY..STAY...GOOD BOY 😂

Suggest you put that in AIBU 😁

Ticklingcheese · 30/04/2019 10:41

Sorry billybagpus x-posted. I'm not sure, we have often felt that if our dcats could master just showing their middle claw... They would 😂.

Pegsinarow · 30/04/2019 11:53

Billybagpuss & Ticklingcheese Grin Grin

So agree that dogs don't hold grudges like teens do!

Shame about the foal Sad

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mcmen71 · 30/04/2019 13:43

Sadly I reverted to a child -child last night. She didn't want me to drop her at sing lesson in case I'd wait around to stalk her and bf. Her dad left her. She organised a time and place for collection with him and then as usual an hour before she texting to change the place this really annoys me. I had a screaming match with her when she came in, as I don't like the area she changed to. I as usual felt bad when she went to bed crying at me giving out to her and I thought why did I have to blow that out into such a big deal. I think if I kept quite there would be less arguing.

MachineBee · 30/04/2019 15:04

It is very hard though mcmen so don’t beat yourself up. Your loss of the adult/child dynamic was probably not helped by your worry over where she decided to wait.

Pegsinarow · 30/04/2019 15:58

Agree with Machines. Dont worry McMen71, I do the same thing all the time and it's usually anxiety speaking! Teens are probably thinking "what's the big deal if I meet them on the other side of the square" while we are thinking "other side of the square = poor lighting> dodgy neighbourhood>drug dealing> gang violence> knife crime etc etc". (Slight exaggeration but what I mean is we are thinking ahead about all potential problems, and they are just thinking about the next hour, the chip shop and chatting to their bfs!)

Could you have a talk to her and explain? Tell her that you wouldn't worry if you didn't love her so much and that you'd prefer her to stick with original plans to build up trust between you and lessen anxiety all round? Then if she sticks to agreements consistently, you can give her a bit more freedom maybe?

Oh and if it's any consolation, my DD prefers it if me and dh wait around the corner if we are picking her up at school for any reason , as it's far too embarrassing for her to be seen with us apparently Grin

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billybagpuss · 30/04/2019 16:06

[flowers]@Mcmen. If only she'd realise that if she were more open about BF the meeting somewhere different would be less of an issue. I feel your pain.

trishababyblue18 · 30/04/2019 16:40

Hi guys, I've just been recommended to have a read of this thread.
I'm so glad I'm not alone, I thought it was just us suffering with a terrible teen.
He smokes, tobacco and weed. Has a real attitude problem, has stole from us in the past but on the other hand has good grades in school, he's smart, funny and works a job!

Pegsinarow · 30/04/2019 16:44

Welcome to the thread Trisha! You are definitely not alone!

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