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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

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Is parenting a teen adversely affecting your mh?

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Pegsinarow · 25/03/2019 14:32

I'm going through what feels like hell with one of my teen's atm.

Today she has told me that I'm a failure, that she hates me, that she wishes I was dead. The expression on her face was really hateful when she said it.

Normally I can shrug this off as "usual" teen angst. I was even advising my friend the other month about not taking this sort of stuff too personally.

But I am really struggling too now. Partly I suppose because my confidence isn't great anyway owing to the menopause.

Sorry if this sounds too "woe is me" but I just feel really crap atm.

Anyone else?

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auberginesrus · 18/04/2019 19:05

I'm finding this thread very comforting and worrying at the same time. Having an awful time with my ds1 who has just turned 16. He's never been the easiest child but the last few weeks have been pretty awful, him and DH clash all the time over revision, phone use etc. We've been pretty good (we think) about letting him stay over at friends, going to gigs etc. Mood has been worse since the Easter holidays started - then on Saturday massive blow out and he ran off to a friend's house and hadn't been gone since. Wont tell me where he is, won't speak to us on the phone, appears to have spent the week sofa surfing at friends and with new girlfriend. I have reported him missing and social services are also now involved, but because he has been keeping in touch via text and doesn't appear to be in any danger the is nothing much they can do. He has said he'll come before school starts next week.

We were supposed to be going away for the weekend, he didn't want to come. We've now cancelled. His Dad is furious and I don't know how were going to move on from this when he does come home.

Definitely affecting my MH!

Whoops75 · 18/04/2019 19:18

auberginesrus, I feel your pain. We were to go abroad on wed to see our older son. It’s just not going to happen now, 6 flights booked & paid for will be empty.
I’m not going to make plans for anything until he moves out. Our life is too volatile at the moment.

We had decided at CAHMS to go to his old school ( he has done 1 disastrous yr at the new school) and ask if he could return for his last yr.

I’m so conflicted
It’s an important year for his class mates too and I don’t want ds to be a grenade in the classroom.
If we don’t try he leaves school with nothing. Sad

Ticklingcheese · 18/04/2019 21:28

escapade
Hi, currently at Easter holiday but have to respond to your sahm question.

I'm a sahm, have a higher education but don't use it.
I don't think it matters if you work or not. In my experience the stronger the bond you have with your dcs, the more they react - if they are the rebellious types😀.

Hence my dd very much rebelled against me in order to cut the apron strings. We were very close up to that point and are again in a different way. My dh didn't get much trouble as he wasn't the one she was trying to detach from.

But she would try to put me down that I was no good as I didn't work. Luckily in that area ( and only that 😁) i had enough self-esteem and education to not take it to heart. So brace yourself, they don't mean it, it's lashing out.

Wishing all a peaceful evening 💐.

Ticklingcheese · 18/04/2019 21:44

By the way, a word of advice 😀 for the po ts

Caring for teens, elderly parents and menopause is a horrible blend, whatever the mix. I ended up taking ADs for a year, never done that before. So watch out for signs of depression, it makes life even harder.

Would like to say something about not drinking to much alcohol to comfort yourselves, but think you are all aware.

Sorry for the doom and gloom, this is coming from a good place, take care of yourselves, please 😀.

mcmen71 · 18/04/2019 22:25

I am really stuck on this one dd1 at her bfs house text to see if she could stay knowing i don't allow sleepovers. I thought rather than argue i said you make your own decision but me and dh are not keen. So she has decided to stay and they promise he will come here to meet us tomorrow which I know wont happen. There is also a few of their friends going to he there.
So probably wont be much sleeping done. I will have a very anxious night.

ForksintheRoad · 18/04/2019 23:10

That's an unexpected one about being a SAHM. I used to earn almost double my DH's salary but have been able to scale it back recently as his earnings took off.

Although I now have teens, I thought they really appreciated me being around more, but my 15yo DS told me last week that I "really must get a job..,so we can have two holidays a year"! Entitled much!

billybagpuss · 19/04/2019 08:22

Morning all, I was going to reply last night but had a small moment of guilt at @ticklings advise as I was just starting my second glass of wine.

I had no authority just a lot of responsibility for them

This sums it up completely and I felt very little help or support.

@forks the entitled holiday comment did make me chuckle.

Flowers for @aubergine that sounds awful and I really do feel for you. You now have the balance of readjusting when he does come back, making him realise you are not a travel lodge and need more respect from him than that but then on the other hand not going in all guns blazing so you lose him completely. You prob need to prep DH too as it sounds like that might be his preferred course of action. I really do feel for you. Have a peaceful Easter.

@Mcmen Hoping today goes well. I would be very disappointed if he bottled it again.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/04/2019 08:34

I find it more stressful that DH gets ratty at DS for - well being a kid really. Aren’t teens supposed to be a hurricane of mess and daftness?

Ive just had to throw out a pan after DS decided to cook for himself and the sink is packed with dirty pans, plates and god knows why.

billybagpuss · 19/04/2019 09:14

I find it more stressful that DH gets ratty

Me too.

mcmen71 · 19/04/2019 09:33

bad night no sleep and bad morning started

Whattodofgs · 19/04/2019 09:49

mcmen71 Thanks

I hate the sleepless nights.

Anybody have any stories of wild teenagers who got sense and were fine in the end?

Social services visit expected here this morning. Sad

Staywithmemyblood · 19/04/2019 10:27

Aw, mcmen thinking of you this morning Flowers Sorry you got no sleep, but hang in there. Hopefully your DDs BF comes round as planned today and all is well. Things always seem worse when you're sleep-deprived Brew Cake Flowers

Staywithmemyblood · 19/04/2019 10:29

I find it more stressful that DH gets ratty

Me three! 🙋

Pegsinarow · 19/04/2019 10:33

Good morning all! Welcome to another day of "finding the balance between forgiveness and annoyance" as Billybagpuss so accurately put it!

Haven't received any worrying reports from DH about DD yet, so I am assuming all is ok. Either that or he is being tight-lipped Grin. I do know she has managed to wangle a trip to Decathlon and new trainers out of him though typical . And whoever said down thread that I would miss them (sorry, can't scroll down that far ATM)) you were right, so sorry for doubting! Grin

Great to have more newcomers to the thread! So sorry you are going through it; but it does really help to know it's not just me! And hopefully helps everyone to know we are not alone!

Auberginesrus I hope your ds comes home soon Flowers. You must be so worried and furious at the same time!

Whoops75 hang in there, in time he will hopefully appreciate that you didn't give up Flowers

Oh no Auberginesrus and Whoops75 do you really have to cancel your trips? That is so awful for you and your respective families. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why. As has been said, the uncertainty really does cause huge stress and grinds you down. Life on tenterhooks indeed!

Part of me feels so badly on your behalves though, I kind of want to ask if you could go without them, or despite of them? Easy to sit here and say that though, as I know I probably wouldn't do that myself! Failing all of that, can you drive to where there are and kidnap them and take them with you? Again, I know I am clutching at straws. It just seems so wrong that your hard earned money and planning should all be for naught. So sorry Sad. I'd be really livid though!

Sounds as though you are spinning a huge number of p!ates Forksintheroad which must be very hard. I hope you can take some time out for yourself this weekend and that you get to see your friend soon. Flowers.

And very wise words about not stretching ourselves too thinly there from Tickling cheese. I must confess I am currently flirting with the idea of taking ADs which my doctor has offered as I do feel depressed/demotivated about things, and keep thinking "how am I going to survive two/ three more years of this" (probably much more if DD lives at home while attending university, which many of her peers do). I'm a bit scared of pills though, especially now they've discovered ADs are harder to come off than they realised (or something). As you can tell, I am not a hcp!

And Flowers to LordProFekkoThePenguinPhd and all of you with hot headed husbands/partners who are clashing with your teens which can't be easy!

To my shame, in our household, my DH is the over-indulgent tolerant one, and I am the one who needs calming down Blush

McMen71 I hope you had no phone calls in the early hours and that your dd and her bf turn up safely at yours soon.

Billybagpuss it was one of those conversations where whatever you say she wouldn't listen or believe. That feeling of helplessness is very familiar to me ATM, and we are having lots of those conversations in our house too. I hope your dd2 is ok? She sounds lovely! I hope she will soon find "her niche" and more confidence in her own good qualities.

Escapade that's a really interesting question! And one I was asking myself at the beginning of this thread as it was being thrown in my face by DD rather a lot! (My current position is similar to Machinesbee's although I only work 18-20 hrs from home atm, although I am at v early stages of trying to get a new enterprise on its legs currently !).

Anyway, my answer would be, judging from what others have said on here, and the experience of family and friends, is that no , it doesn't seem to make much of a difference from the teen pov, but as Tickling cheese touched on, it may have an impact on your confidence and self esteem and how you deal with their rebellion.

I started this thread because it was becoming clearer to me that one has to be quite mentally robust to parent a teen effectively. As has been discussed previously, girls in particular (see the book "Untangled") tend to hone in on our weak spots and use them to "attack" us with as they attack authority and what we stand for. It's like they hold up a mirror to our faces and say "justify that!". So it's ideal if you are in a "good place" when the teen years and the "onslaught" arrives and it's good for them too I think , if we can look back in the mirror unflinchingly and calmly! (Or we at least have the self confidence to say "yes this is me, I'm not perfect".)

And if getting to that "good place" means pursuing a job, or an interest, or some other activity that makes you feel good about yourself then that is a very good thing I reckon! Not least because you can then identify as a separate person in your own right, not just as X's mother, and they can see you in that light too!

Given my time again, and knowing what I know now, I would do things differently I think! But she has always earned 10 times my salary and travelled frequently, and we've lived in countries where I couldn't work for tax reasons, so it hadn't been easy!

HTH anyway Escapade and you are very wise to be thinking ahead!

Going to let this long essay now - then go and do something - and I'll bbl to respond to the other posts!

Hope everyone is having a good morning so far!

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LightandAiry · 19/04/2019 10:34

Hi all, I don't have wild teenagers, but stay at home lounge lizards.

My 16 year old ds has very low self esteem, low confidence, and anger issues. I was fearful for my 14 year old dd's safety as she just got in the way while he was in an angry state and he lashed out for no reason. He doesn't go out....only if very occasionally friends he sees at college organise something. Won't ask a couple of ex-best friends from secondary school out any more as he was always the one to organise things, and now doesn't hear from them. Thankfully after seeing a counsellor at college he is keeping a lid on the anger, but feels very unhappy, with no social life. In fact there are some ex-secondary school kids meeting up today and he won't join them as he doesn't like some of them. He is awkward about people.

I found out at work my blood pressure was very raised, but coming down now, linked to worrying about him, more his disengagement than anything else.

aubergine What a nightmare...I hope things settle Flowers you have the added stress of the clashes with ds and dh.

Whattodofgs I hope the visit is helpful for you Flowers

Pegsinarow · 19/04/2019 10:38

Oops, that should have read "DH" has always earned X 10 my salary not "she"!

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Whoops75 · 19/04/2019 10:42

Thanks pegsinarow, your so good for thinking of everyone in your updates.

mcmen71 My niece was like this and is still with the lad 4 years, he is quite nice, immature for his age. They are so similar and found each other when they were at their worst. My sister is happy now than her dd has known unconditional love from him rather than 10 bad relationships.

Aubergine- that’s tough Flowers

Pegsinarow · 19/04/2019 10:56

Xpost Lightandairy sorry you are so worried about your son; adolescence manifests itself in all sorts of different ways I think, depending on the individual child. And I think teens take different amounts of time to gain confidence and "fledge" ifyswim. If it's any consolation at all, my nephew was the same for quite a while. He was quite anxious and socially isolated at secondary school and had frequent panic attacks in the night. It wasn't really until sixth form that he found a group of like-minded friends. University was both a good and bad experience for him but he kept those sixth form friends throughout and now he has his first "proper" job, he is out all the time with them at weekends, the group is expanding, they travel together, he is doing well at work, and he is confident and happy. So hang in there and give it time Flowers.

One tip for the anxious "indoor" days, in the meantime, is to take them out swimming or cycling. Anything just to get the sun on their backs, a bit of exercise and fresh air and to distract them from the introspection . That's what helped my nephew anyway. I know it's far from easy though! I hope you have a calm Easter weekend and take care of your blood pressure.

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Pegsinarow · 19/04/2019 11:07

Thank you Whoops75 hope this doesn't sound too new age lentil- weavy but I think it's important everyone feels "heard" on here because, when it comes to teens, and attendant repeated sense of helplessness and frustration, it's easy to get lost in a mire of stress and to think you are the only one going through it . And this thread is helping me loads too! (Disclaimer: I do enjoy a good lentil and bean casserole every so often Grin). Back in a bit!

Sorry, missed the bit where you said the SS visit was today Whattodofgs . Hope it goes ok. Flowers

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Pegsinarow · 19/04/2019 12:11

Catching up/part 2 ...

Thinking of you this morning Whattodofgs! Hope your dd is ok.

Waves to Xeroxarama and everyone else I may have missed!

OK so I have managed to find a desk-top that scrolls ... and ha! have discovered it was Staywithmemyblood who predicted I would miss dh and dd while I was away, despite everything they've thrown at me recently (especially dd). And she was right!

What a sorry lot we are eh? Grin Shared between many of us - anxiety, stress, depression, palpitations, high blood pressure and migraines - and yet we still go back for more Grin And we still miss them and worry about them when they (or we) are away Confused There's no hope for us really is there ? Grin (Although long walks are good Thebeesknees123!)

Talk about "love conquers all" Confused

NakedScientist that is an epic post from you down thread as ever! And worth c&ping I think ... . Thank you so much for it!

This is not a judgement. The teens can't care for us. We can't let them break us, it's not fair on them. They simply don't have the equipment to deal with taking any load from us, so they shut down and roll their eyes, shout, punch the wall, swear, dash out etc.

and

Teens are big, clever, articulate toddlers,and you'd never ask a toddler, mid tantrum, to kiss mummy.

Thinking like this helps me to, I guess, keep strong and I suppose, adult, instead of blaming them, as if they were adults, for how awful they are. This protects my MH.

I think I will print out those paragraphs and attach them to the inside of my wardrobe drawer! (Well I would if dd wasn't in and out of there so much!)

And sorry Staywithmemyblood for missing in my earlier post that your dh is also finding teen angst difficult to handle. I hope the counselling proves helpful to him and to the whole family.

I've had a very luxurious and rare morning to myself but about to go and do last shift of helping relative prepare for house move now. Then it's back home late tonight for last min Easter prep!

Wishing all the Po-Ts a relaxing Easter weekend (well as relaxing as humanly possible in current circs!) and plenty of Wine

Flowers
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Pegsinarow · 19/04/2019 13:00

Btw, Escapade, when I said below about identifying as someone else, not "just as Xs mother" there should have been double quotation marks around the "just". To be clear, I didnt mean it disrespectfully at all (I've been a SAHM for yrs before starting working minimal pt hrs now) and as we all know on here very well, being a parent is far from easy and not "just" anything at all! Smile

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auberginesrus · 19/04/2019 14:03

Thanks for all your lovely words and Flowers to everyone else going through the mill, and extra Flowers for whoops for missing your trip to see ds1. We at least are only missing 3 nights in the Lakes in our camper, but I don't think we'll see another Easter weekend as glorious as this for a few years!

DS still not back - but staying in touch via text. I think he will stay away until Monday if he can, but I suppose that depends on his friends families' appetite to have an interloper over the bank holiday weekend. I still don't know exactly where he is staying. The police are being a bit useless, went to the address I gave them yesterday overnight but house was in darkness Hmm, they will try and get back today. Didn't go to his work last night, have only just requested a photo. Frustrating but I know their resources are v stretched.

Spoke to the social worker yesterday who was very reassuring on us being able to get through this and will be able to signpost/refer us for help once he's back home.

auberginesrus · 19/04/2019 14:15

On the working/ sahm issue I honestly think there is no right or wedding answer, you just have to do what is best for you and your family circumstances.

I have always been major wage earner in our household although worked part time when both boys are small. I now work in a fairly senior position with a long commute and time away for conferences etc. DH works mainly from home. And so he gets the brunt of DS's grumpiness (and can be grumpy in return)

MachineBee · 19/04/2019 16:11

Hope your DS gets in touch soon @Auberginerus. Mine only ever flounced off for a short period and came back when they were hungry/wanted a shower. And I was worried sick when they did that. Can’t imagine how awful this is for you.

mcmen71 · 19/04/2019 16:34

My dd will hopefully be home after 5pm think Ill stay at work for bit longer to she gets her room sorted she will be grumpy now all evening as I wouldn't let her back out to bf after staying with him last night and promising he'd come to us today and then changed his mind. He said he was sorry but I can't keep asking. I haven't even seen him and he asked her to stay the night Im so fuming she choose to stay. Then wanting me to bring her money first thing this morning but no I didn't. I called her a tramp which I know was wrong but she should not have stayed at his house. This was the first time she stayed out but id say it won't be the last. Might look for a beach and go walking but would have a long drive to one. She could have been with anyone last night I feel such a bad mum that she stayed out. She asked I said make your own decision but im not happy and she choose to stay. I don't even know where the house is. They told me last night his dad was at home but when I asked this morning he wasn't there so there was 4 15year old in a house together. My mind is swimming.

Thinking on all of you and hope everything works out for use. Teenage life hurry up and be over.