WWW's ten year younger bootcamp, nearly back to school, all welcome

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Hello everyone, old and new.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times - REALLY mean this now summer is here.

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.

What do I want? I want to be a proper size 12, and feel physically fit.

Why do I want it? So I can buy nice clothes, feel more energetic, and also because I'd ideally like to have another baby, and want to get fit for that (ssh, don't tell anyone!).

foo I can't find my original runners link but this is quite similar

saggars you were in Lancaster? next time if you are ferrying your ds let me know, we can meet up. I live about 5 mins drive from the Uni (both Uni of Cumbria and Uni of Lancaster)

www I've read a few of your posts about work - I'm going to be in penury in Nov, since one of my main clients went and recruited (someone else ) on a PAYE basis to do my freelance work

I've got other work till Nov but then... I'm in a v small field, in a v small place

WHAT DO YOU WANT?I want to have more energy and be lighter
WHY DO YOU WANT IT? because I'm recovering from ME and need all the help I can get; because I look like Nigella Lawson in photos from the back and like Kathy Bates from the front

mind you, dd2 did tell me I looked like the mother in George Patten's Maternal Affections, which was in the Walker Art Gallery on one of our 'we are not camping we are daytripping' outings this week, and she made me very happy because it was such a pretty picture. Aww. It's so lovely when your children are young enough to be nice.

Capp, sympathy on the work front. I have just had crab for lunch and that kind of shenanigans will have to stop come the end of October. Ah, that's nice about the picture. DD asked dh if the picture of Kate Garraway on the front of The Observer mag was me, I bloody wish, bless her, the little short sighted sweetie (shit, I should probably get her eyes tested shouldn't?!) lol at Kathy Bates though.

Cam, you will look lovely next Thursday I'm sure, you are very glam and slim woman. That sounds like alovely day out with dd.

Ts, ooh another baby? When? How nice!

Oi, are you OK? Enjoying being at home today? Me too! Although must do some work shortly.

Oh and well done on the 1lb Capp.

And maybe PAYE person will be shit?

www, you are far prettier than Kate Garraway

Cam, that's a VERY kind thing to say but I have aged terribly badly since you last saw me, which was omg 2002 I think !

Www - not yet!!!!! I'd like to have one maybe in a year's time or so - but absolutely not yet! Want to be a lot fitter before then!

What's aged me:

dd not sleeping for 1.5 years
stress about being out of work for 8months in 2005
then stress at living away for six months and spending 2 hours a day on the M1
stress at no money for a while
stress at being about to be made redundant
then stress at commuting 4.5 hours a day for past year
and eating too much
and drinking too much
and not sleeping enough

I feel a month at a health farm would help but don't we all?

So, actually, sorry for little whinge there,

What I am doing about it:

having Nov and Dec off if I possibly can
Must get back to bcamp proper and drink less, sleep more, stick to IPD
and forget all stuff in past.

And, www, focus on the positives in your life:

Having young children (whilst tiring) is also rejuvenating - how would I knoe anything about what's current if I didn't have an 11 year old

Having a lovely dh (you and I both have a dh2 by whom we have had our dc2)

I'm just a decade further along the line than you

True, true, I am on the thread about happiness alternately saying I am happy and whinging. I must stoppit, I do have lots of lots of things to be extremely grateful for!

And yes, I remember you have dh#2 and your dd with him. Gosh, are you 50?!

Well, www, I had dd2 at 40 (same as you IIRC?) and she's now 11

This is what happens

It just flies by doesn't it Cam?!
I was 36 when I got pg with dd and 37 when she was born. I'm 41, will be 42 in October. How did that happen?

youth is all relative tho isn't it

I have read on here this morning an 18-year-old (someone's dd) saying that she has crows feet and wishes she was 15 again

Afternoon. Am feeling dreadful after a sleepless night with poorly DD ? she gets all het up and stressed when she feels ill and I ended up having to get into bed with her and then getting no sleep. Have eyelids propped up at desk and have just had eyebrows threaded so have red eyes and eyebrows to match!

Ok my mission statement
What do you want ? I want to lose some weight and ideally get back to a size 10 (am a big 12 at the moment), feel fitter and have more energy.
Why? Am 42 this year and feel if I don?t sort myself out now there will just be a slow decline into being fat and 50 with all the health problems that may bring. Have some nice clothes but don?t look or feel great in them at the moment and there?s some I can?t even wear.

Lol www at sweet cigarettes ? I had no idea they still sold them! Were you also eating golden nuggets and space dust?

Sorry to hear about your week at work Oi. I have been stressed about mine this week too ? have come back from hols to loads of work and lots of problems. We are also well and truly brassick after an expensive August and there?s nothing worse than feeling you?re working really hard but you still have to be frugal!

Capp thanks for running guide ? am starting tomorrow. Am feeling all inspired. Have to fit in three times a week so plan is to do one early morning one, one at the weekend and one in the evening. Am also trying to up my walking but it?s so hard when you?re always rushing from A to B to do that ?get off one stop earlier? thing.

Anyway my best moment this week was when a colleague told me I remind him of Mary Portas. (I wish! My work style is a bit similar though) ? anyway I Preened for a whole afternoon.

What do I want? - to get to just under 10st in weight and stay there. To remain the shape I am now and as fit as I am now despite rapidly approaching the menopause.

Why do I want it? - Because I just do OK!

Capp - I didn't realise you lived in that part of the country. All those off road cycle paths - good for running Well done on the 1lb and arf @ Kathy Bates!

You're as old as you feel you know.

Foo - good luck with the running. My number one tip is don't go off too fast, otherwise you get too puffed out, hate it, think you'll never improve and give up. Run at a pace just above a fast walk to begin with.

I have had a very lazy 3 days, am aiming to have a lazyish weekend and start afresh on Sept 1.

I'm sure running has helped my pms and mood generally, (along with the Magnesium ok/eps).

So my whats and whys are:

-to be bmi 24, because I want to be a 'normal' healthy weight and it would mean I was a 12/14 in clothes which would be just fine.

• I want to be really fit and be able to run 30/40 mins non-stop just for the hell of it.

• and I want to stop feeling so disatisfied and happy in my own skin, no matter how wrinkly it is.

The 22/23 year olds in the office have been moaning about getting too old . And they've just sat me next to the size 6 blond 24-year old Australian goddess . I shall just have to do dark, sultry and old wise.

Hello all, day of absolute hellish hell here - all going well this morning, popped round to my sister's (she's working from home) got back home and came up the three steps at the front door, bringing the buggy up backwards as usual. Turned around to unlock the door, and the buggy, which I guess I hadn't got fully on to the top step, bounced back down again and flipped over, with DS face-down in it . Heartstopping moment where the buggy was on its front and he wasn't making a sound, but then he bellowed for all he was worth. We rushed to the hosp and thankfully he's fine (though he kind of landed on his nose, and now looks as if he's gone ten rounds with Mike Tyson). I however am a wreck - trembly, weepy, the works. Feeling like the queen of all fecklessness too. Dearie me. Thankfully friend i was supposed to be having lunch with turned up at the hospital and greeted me with the words 'don't worry: my mum pulled my brother's arm out of its socket when he was one'. Which did, I confess, help quite a bit.

Anyway, phew. He is ok, and I will be drinking wine straight from the bottle the moment he's in bed.

moonshine you have excellent taste. Freaks and Geeks is the business.

oi - so sorry to hear about work - is this a blip? Or deeper issues?

Capp, meant to say - sympathies on the ME. A friend of mine is just recovering from it, too, and it seems that she's ok until the moment she overdoes things even slightly. She loved running, and is hating not doing it at the moment.

As to boot camp goals ...

What do I want - to get through what promise to be some stressful and difficult months in the best physical shape I can.

Why do I want it? - To marshal my resources, I guess - and to feel better about myself, too.

oh L&S you poor thing. Dh tipped ds over in the buggy (didn't lift it over a steep curve and it tipped forward) and he felt DREADFUL. It is awful isn't it. Glad he is ok (I imagine you might be half way down that bottle by now!).

Thanks for the sympathy. Think work is the shock of coming back to it. Thinking about it logically, it's a very good job and I like the people but I have not had a boss for YEARS (worked for myself and even in my last job, I was allocated projects and ran them myself) and so I find having a boss immensely hard. I don't appreciate his criticisms (even if they are valid) and I hate having him hovering over me but he is perfectly entitled to as he is my boss . I just need to decide if I am suited to sticking at a job like this or if I need to look at another where I am given a bit more freedom! Job market not great atm, so will have to stick it for a bit.

what do I want - I must MUST get fit. Am a reasonable weight but so unfit that I couldn't actually run 500m let alone 5km. Would love to be able to cycle to work too so that's a major goal!

Evening all

So sorry to hear about ds' attempts to do an Odessa Steps on you L&S, thank goodness he is fine. We had never been inside an A & E with ds until he was three, when, in the month after we lost ds2, we paid two visits in rapid succession. He flipped out of his buggy in John Lewis and crowned himself on their rock-hard floor...and then two weeks later stuffed a bean up his nose at nursery. I think it is easier to be momentarily distraite when you are under huge stress, please don't reproach yourself. I ended up crying all over bemused bean-removing fresh-faced SHO.

What do I want? To be a size 12 and much fitter

Why do I want it?

Altruism - to make my dcs proud of their fleet-footed and foxy mother

Self-absorption - never to be mistaken for their grandma again

Am home alone ce soir as dh and the dcs have gone on a kids and dads overnight camp-out. I was so sure that dd would bail at the 11th hour I made no arrangements to meet friends or anything. She capered off down the road without a backward glance.
So the ironing and a double bill of bleak and miserable French dramas awaits, the kind dh loathes.

Must now go and catch up on rest of thread.

Neither Camm nor www look remotely their real ages, whatever they might say

Hello all and commiserations on A&E trip L&S, we all know that heart stopping feeling.

Marina, I hope you had alovely evenign in alone.

I have had some Serious Transgressions:

Last night, Haagen Daaz pralines and cream ice cream AND some Revels
today, went to a farm with dd, bought her a pink slice and she ate half and handed it to me and I ate it. Bugger. I really must get back off sugar although have yet to have bread so I suppose that's something.

Good to read all these reasons for doing 10yy, all good reasons. I am going to start a MEGA serious thread tomorrow, so be prepared. I will be shouting at people who don't do what they've said they'll do. Including myself.

So, today
scrambled egg and bacon
half a pink iced almond bakewell thing
some cheese and chorizo
and have just slept for a couple of hours as have been up with dd at 5.45am or earlier EVERY day this week and am exhausted. I am going out to dinner tonight and will stick to IPD with exception of wine

Have terrible pmt so dh got it in the ear this afternoon about how EXTREMELY lucky he is to have been asleep until 7am every morning this week and to get a lie in today.(I've been sleeping in with dd to be fair as ds is away and she misses him and wakes in the night but it's meant she's woken int he night to see if I;m there). DD and I left the the house at 9am to go and get last schooliform things and when we came back at midday dh was just arising from his bed . Alhough I have been promised lie in tomorrow, just as well as going out.

Anyway, hope everyone is having a lovely weekend. And it's September nearly!

I'm home, but no tales of fleas, thankfully!

(L&S sorry to hear about you and DP, and also your trip to A&E, we've all been there I think).

London was fab, and I was good bootcamp-wise too !! Had lots of anxieties beforehand, but the location of the travelodge worked very well. Only downside was we couldn't nip back to it during the day, but considering the cost of two rooms/parking/transport it did the job. Think once we accepted we couldn't do everything (and got overtaken by the rush of sorting stuff for this week) we just chilled and had a great time.

The tube is brilliant, but hats off to all of you who have to use it during rush-hour day in, day out.

The boys all seem to have had a fabulous week. They're all used to outdoor life, but they've done all sorts of activities throughout the week.

We too had a wonderful few days up in the Lakes, and chilled. We've eaten loads, and drank a fair bit, and just spent time togevva. We went up to Gretna Green one day (which was a bit odd cos that's where my dad got remarried ). I didn't take a porno bra www - I didn't take ANY bras, lol, so had to buy some new ones!

Aside from all that and it has been two great weeks, I've not been well. My feet need some tlc after all the stomping around London, and the nail I bashed months ago is now half-off, but won't actually come off completely, and my ear infection returned with a vengeance - ear and right-hand side of my face swelled up considerably and became red and blotchy. Had to make an emergency visit to the GP on BH Monday. The drops and minitorpedoes antibiotics have worked, but I have to go to see my GP next week to check everything's cleared. And I'm currently on day 15, yes 15, of my period , which is something I've never experienced before.

It's DH's birthday tomorrow, harrumph - he got an incredulous "you're never that old!" (ie 49) last week which he lapped up, lol.

L&S - arrrgh! What a trying time you're having. I hope you reach an agreeable solution re: DP. As for todays mishap, these things really do happen. I rolled off the kitchen worktop onto a stone floor when I was 3 months old. And 2 or 3 years ago we were in church, DD2 was wearing a very smart red wool coat with a nice silky lining, and DH was holding her. He bent down to pick up hymn book and DD2 slid straight out of her coat and landed head first on the tiled floor. All the pews & us looked like this:

Hello everyone else, will catch up properly tomorrow.

WHAT DO I WANT? To run 10k in under an hour by this time next year (that's very ambitious) and be able to play tennis properly again. And also lose the squishy extra stone round the middle.

WHY? Because it's my health for the future, I'm nearing 40 with a very young family and I want to keep up and set them a good example.

And for pure vanity, I'd like to preserve my face for as long as possible.

Hope you all enjoyed the sunshine (and remembered your sunscreen ).