Are these timeless?

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Firstly, I love love love this so please don't shit on them if they're not your style. Would you say the patent leather are more timeless than the textured fabric? Also, are the lower heels less nice?

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https://www.dior.com/en_gb/fashion/products/KCC200TFL_S900

agree with this. These are definitely not timeless.

It just shouts " look how much money I can spend on shoes and I'm not used to having money, I'm an insecure person so I've got to boast about it

How very un-S&B of you. Whatever your POV, your decision to be so nasty about it says more about you than anyone wearing a pair of shoes. Your little diatribe makes you sound insecure, frankly.

OP, I'm in the minority of posters who prefers the lower heel. I think they will work with narrow cigarette pants, classic black shift and so on.

The ribbon can be steam cleaned/similar if it starts to look discoloured.

I think heels look dated these days. You dont see many young women hobbling around on them, very aging.

Those shoes are most definitely not timeless. The opposite in fact. They’re going to date very quickly due to the ribbon branding. If you want to buy them, go ahead but don’t kid yourself that they’re timeless.

oh ffs

I wouldn’t pay that much for anything and advertise it for the seller.

It's my opinion,and, judging by the number of people who reacted to my comment with agreement, it's the opinion of a lot of people on here too.

Feeling secure in yourself means you can buy a pair of logo-free designer shoes for £850 without feeling the need to advertise the fact of where you bought them from. I bet you can think of plenty of very well-dressed women who spend a lot on clothes which don't have labels emblazoned all over.

If OP loves them then great. But she shouldn't delude herself that they're either classic or timeless.

Citing 'the number of people who agree with me' to underscore how right you think you are, is an odd thing to do. Once again, you appear insecure - you need other people to sit in agreement with you. It's your opinion. You don't need to invent agreement to justify it.

Regardless, none of what you say matters one jot. No one cares what you think about a pair of shoes. The reason I responded to you was the spiteful tone of your nasty comment, which was completely uncalled for.

If you cannot discuss a pair of shoes without that level of insulting meanness, then expect to be called out on it.

Agree with the pp. You were really rude. There's no need. S&B threads are a bit of a retreat from all that.

Maybe try to express an opinion without being offensive and insulting? Y'know, like in real life hopefully.

If someone asks for an opinion on a public forum then they're going to get varying opinions. Sometimes all the opinions agree that the item is great etc, sometimes, as with these shoes, the opinions vary.

OP specifically asked whether the shoes were timeless, and lots of people have said they aren't. I'm a person who doesn't beat round the bush and explained why. I don't need to suck up to the OP or lie to her. If people think that's rude then I'm afraid I don't care. On anonymous forums people can and do respond in a direct way which they wouldn't in real life because of social niceties.

If she'd asked a different question, eg are the shoes fun, I bet she would have got full agreement in all responses, including me.

But she asked a specific question about timelessness, and one of the things about timelessness is that items are understated, not brash or flash. Those shoes are undeniably brash and flash, and that generally goes along with people who want other people to see how much money they spend ie conspicuous consumption.

If the shoes looked exactly the same but the ribbons said M&S instead of Dior, the OP would not entertain buying them, that I can guarantee. That to me proves she wants other people to know she can afford Dior.

Love them

Agreed. The style is a throw back to pointy toed shoes & kitten heels of the Bridget Jones era. They will be out of fashion again in the near future and the white will get grubby quickly. I actually like them but they are definitely not 'timeless'. Will probably be back in fashion in about 30 years but will look dated inbetween now and then.

Anything with obvious branding will be simple to date, a small stud or name beneath would be elegant

I am going to try not to be mean and say simply that they are very much not timeless in any way shape or form.

I like them too but I wouldn't buy them because I think they will date quite soon. So I wouldn't say any of the options are timeless unfortunately.

Going back to the comment about heels being old fashioned, this weekend I noticed a few people in their 20s looking really stylish in them. They all had very different looks but they didn’t look uncomfortable, just really well put together outfits and made me take a second glance and think ‘wow, heels are back’.

Agree.

These type of threads regarding designer items always attract these snarky types though, who just can’t help being vile despite the OP asking for kindness bc she loves them.

As per the comment of that poster - I’m very used to having money, have nothing to prove to anyone and wear both branded and unbranded clothes, from anywhere and everywhere. Il happily buy from high street stores as well as Prada, Gucci etc. and also expensive unbranded items. The idea that you can only be secure in yourself if you only wear unbranded clothing is a very strange take. Maybe some people just wear things they like and enjoy and aren’t worrying about what other people think?

I often think the S&B board on here is full of people who don’t know the first thing about fashion and probably dress dull as ditchwater in RL.

I like them OP - I prefer the fabric ones though. I like the smaller heel too but I can’t do very high heels. The only thing that worries me would be the white ribbon getting dirty.

The shape of the heel on the high ones has been around forever. It's a basic heel shape. LK Bennett for example have that shape, in low and high heels as a basic staple. The heel shape on the lower one isn't.

If the ribbons were plain white or black silk or velvet I would say, yes, there will be times when those shoes are really in and times when they aren't but they won't ever be totally out.

I don't like the visible branding. I don't understand what is the point of visible branding.

@EverythingIsComputer oh yeah, heels are definitely back.
@PhaedraWas great point about the heel shapes.

i appreciate that everyone has different taste, i was more thinking about the patent leather vs the fabric. The heel shape is definitely the thing that struck me as off about the low heels.

That naff 'J'Adior ' ribbon has been around for ages.

Sorry OP. Those shoes are the opposite of 'timeless'.

OP specifically asked whether the shoes were timeless, and lots of people have said they aren't. I'm a person who doesn't beat round the bush and explained why. I don't need to suck up to the OP or lie to her. If people think that's rude then I'm afraid I don't care

You were rude. You were offensive and insulting. Most people are sufficiently articulate to be able to express a negative opinion without resorting to unpleasant rudeness. The fact that you are not is a matter for you, but if you are pointlessly spiteful and mean to a poster asking about a pair of shoes, then expect to be challenged on it.

Describing yourself as 'a person who doesn't beat around the bush' as a reason for plain rudeness is an old and somewhat pathetic excuse that makes every one else simply roll their eyes and hope that they don't encounter you again.

Of course, you 'don't care,' but you've tried to justify your nastiness twice now, so it rather seems that you do. Maybe there's hope for you yet!

The patent is the nicest of the three. I am in awe of anyone who can walk in these types of shoes without pain!

I don’t think they are timeless and agree that the ribbon will probably look grubby very quickly. That amount of money imo should only be used on something that would be a good investment and could be used for many years and imo I don’t think those shoes would be a good investment.

I think the patent look better and prefer the higher heel, the lower one is less classic in shape. On a practical note the patent should be easier to keep clean.

The patent with the higher heel are the best, they're a classic basic.