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Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...

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Maireas · 16/11/2025 16:10

Hello style mavens, let's continue the chat...

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Choux · 04/12/2025 12:30

I like the orders and sashes too. Along with tiaras it elevates the outfits beyond a straight black tie affair and emphasises the history and heritage. Kate wore two royal orders to the US and French state visits so I imagine the neckline of the dress was the reason she wore only KC’s last night.

i found a photo from the back of the tiara. There is a tiny bit of hair securing it but not much. Perhaps it didn’t fit easily on her head shape hence why it seems to have slipped a bit wonky in the front on photos.

Celebs there included Claudia Schiffer (Lady Vaughan) in Balmain next to Keir Starmer and Motsi Mabuse who lives in Germany so may have German citizenship next to Edward. She is also next to a lady in a tiara who I can’t name from the back. Anyone help?

I think I read Kate’s dress was Jenny Packham so I am now convinced that she swapped the dresses round for the state visit and the German designed green velvet one was originally going to be worn last night.

Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...
Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...
Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...
Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...
Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...
Maireas · 04/12/2025 12:32

justasking111 · 04/12/2025 12:24

Very Guinevere 💖

Yes!

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Choux · 04/12/2025 12:36

Details of the decor and menu. Partridge seems a potentially divisive main. The red wine from 1995 has been selected in honour of the year the president and his wife were married which is a nice touch.
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-12-03/partridge-and-pageantry-whats-on-the-menu-at-the-state-banquet

themessygarden · 04/12/2025 12:48

Catherines dress looks even more stunning in motion, and I think the tiara videos better than it photographs.

MannersAreAll · 04/12/2025 13:02

Catherine's dress is gorgeous. And I love that there's another tiara being given a dusting off.

I wish they'd let Sophie have a rummage in the tiara box. There are some gorgeous pieces in there that we've not seen for a long time.

I really don't like messing around with orders though. Catherine should have been wearing both that she had, and the need to wear both should be taken into account when deciding outfits. If you're going to do sashes and orders then you need to do it properly imo. They would have both gone on the velvet green dress so it's curious that they seem to have switched the dresses.

Choux · 04/12/2025 13:05

i just saw a photo of Elke (the German President’s wife) where her dress looked dark green instead of black) so I wondered if a colour match forced Kate to switch dresses. According to Instagram not only is Elke’s dress green velvet it’s by TalbotRunhof. Presumably the ladies swap notes on dresses as the visit approaches and that meant the host Kate couldn’t match the colour and designer of the guest of honour’s dress so had to make a switch.

Royal Style: A Double Breasted Safari Suit? We need to discuss...
Maireas · 04/12/2025 13:08

I thought Elke Budenbender looked very elegant. That's obviously a fashion house to follow!

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bluegreygreen · 04/12/2025 13:13

That might also have meant a late switch of tiara - if they couldn't use a diplomatic German fashion house they then needed to have a diplomatic link in the tiara.
Pure supposition on my part, of course.

Choux · 04/12/2025 13:17

Kate did her research well on which German designer to wear. I wonder if the tiara with rubies and a German connection was always going to be worn? The red would probably go better with dark green than with the Prussian blue dress she wore last night.

bluegreygreen · 04/12/2025 13:24

That's more likely

Choux · 04/12/2025 13:32

I don’t know. I like to think the original plan was the green velvet dress with the Greville emerald Kokoshnik. Although Camilla’s wearing it literally two weeks ago might make that a bit of a fantasy idea.

Unless Kate planned to wear the Greville Emerald last night but then shelved the idea because she had to change her dress and then Camilla said “well if it’s out of the vault and cleaned I’ll wear it” as it was a surprise wearing from her.

But we will never know…
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a69482623/queen-camilla-princess-eugenie-greville-emerald-tiara/

Queen Camilla wears Princess Eugenie’s wedding tiara at Windsor – here’s who it really belongs to

The history behind the stunning piece of jewellery, including how much it's estimated to be worth...

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a69482623/queen-camilla-princess-eugenie-greville-emerald-tiara/

Choux · 04/12/2025 13:59

Ok I am getting a bit carried away with this now but it’s far more interesting than what I am supposed to be doing….

original plans:
Camilla at the Diplomatic reception in a white dress and the diamond and ruby oriental circlet (which had only been worn by queens until Kate wore it last night
Kate at the German reception in the Green velvet Talbot Runhof and the Greville Emerald tiara

Then Kate finds out her colour, fabric and designer are the same as Elke’s planning to wear. So she needs to swap her dress for the Jenny Packham. But the Emerald tiara won’t work with a mid blue dress. So - to save the royal jewellers having to rush clean another tiara for Kate- Camilla and Kate agree to swap tiaras. And Camilla wore the emerald kokoshnik to the diplomatic reception two weeks ago and Kate wore a tiara usually only worn by queens last night.

or maybe this is all my imagination…

MannersAreAll · 04/12/2025 14:02

Choux · 04/12/2025 13:59

Ok I am getting a bit carried away with this now but it’s far more interesting than what I am supposed to be doing….

original plans:
Camilla at the Diplomatic reception in a white dress and the diamond and ruby oriental circlet (which had only been worn by queens until Kate wore it last night
Kate at the German reception in the Green velvet Talbot Runhof and the Greville Emerald tiara

Then Kate finds out her colour, fabric and designer are the same as Elke’s planning to wear. So she needs to swap her dress for the Jenny Packham. But the Emerald tiara won’t work with a mid blue dress. So - to save the royal jewellers having to rush clean another tiara for Kate- Camilla and Kate agree to swap tiaras. And Camilla wore the emerald kokoshnik to the diplomatic reception two weeks ago and Kate wore a tiara usually only worn by queens last night.

or maybe this is all my imagination…

Tbh that sounds like a very logical possibility

Especially as Kate and Elke's dress are not on the same designer but material and colour

AllTangledUpInTitlesTiarasAndTinsel · 04/12/2025 14:19

justasking111 · 04/12/2025 12:24

Very Guinevere 💖

I do actually love it too. Just a shame the tiara obviously wasn't secure enough to keep it properly in place.

AllTangledUpInTitlesTiarasAndTinsel · 04/12/2025 14:22

And, to add to that, I gave her a hard time on the gown yesterday but that really is quite harsh. It's a glorious dress and she looked wonderful in it.

But maybe a radical change next time, Catherine, if you're reading! 😊😊

locketrocket · 04/12/2025 14:39

Choux · 04/12/2025 12:30

I like the orders and sashes too. Along with tiaras it elevates the outfits beyond a straight black tie affair and emphasises the history and heritage. Kate wore two royal orders to the US and French state visits so I imagine the neckline of the dress was the reason she wore only KC’s last night.

i found a photo from the back of the tiara. There is a tiny bit of hair securing it but not much. Perhaps it didn’t fit easily on her head shape hence why it seems to have slipped a bit wonky in the front on photos.

Celebs there included Claudia Schiffer (Lady Vaughan) in Balmain next to Keir Starmer and Motsi Mabuse who lives in Germany so may have German citizenship next to Edward. She is also next to a lady in a tiara who I can’t name from the back. Anyone help?

I think I read Kate’s dress was Jenny Packham so I am now convinced that she swapped the dresses round for the state visit and the German designed green velvet one was originally going to be worn last night.

That first photo is lovely. You can see the King genuinely loves Catherine 🥰

ExquisiteDresses · 04/12/2025 14:56

locketrocket · 04/12/2025 14:39

That first photo is lovely. You can see the King genuinely loves Catherine 🥰

They have become very close through their cancer treatments, I think they probably were before too, the King is I imagine incredibly grateful for the magnificent way Catherine has risen to her role as POW and for how happy she makes William, what a good mother she is etc. Despite all the Harry/Andrew issues I get the feeling for the most part they are all extremely fond of one another, you see it with the King and Zara too.

CurlewKate · 04/12/2025 16:23

Sadly, I’m pretty sure all the clothes are planned and co ordinated well in advance. Although it’s much more fun to imagine them doing a March sisters and frantically looking for pairs of clean gloves…..!

Maireas · 04/12/2025 16:39

CurlewKate · 04/12/2025 16:23

Sadly, I’m pretty sure all the clothes are planned and co ordinated well in advance. Although it’s much more fun to imagine them doing a March sisters and frantically looking for pairs of clean gloves…..!

Yes, I would agree 😊

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SqueakyDinosaur · 04/12/2025 18:09

What I want to know is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE VLADIMIR TIARA AGAIN???

justasking111 · 04/12/2025 18:20

SqueakyDinosaur · 04/12/2025 18:09

What I want to know is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE VLADIMIR TIARA AGAIN???

When was it last worn?

Cassiope · 04/12/2025 18:38

Just catching up on last night's banquet.

I fear I'm the only person who really didn't like Kate's dress. Didn't like anything about it and especially not the two-tone, scattered sparkles. To me it was a very stagey take on highly formal glamour and almost not serious enough for a state banquet. Liked the tiara though - I much prefer the wider style to some of the small, narrow ones (CP Victoria’s cameo one always looks a bit too small for her, perhaps because it's quite tall for the circumference?).

Frau Budenbender’s sleeves gave her gown some drama, but I would not have wanted to negotiate a formal meal in them…

Cassiope · 04/12/2025 18:49

The floral colour scheme was more straightforwardly Christmassy than I was expecting, but somehow curiously subdued, compared with the state banquets earlieryl in the year. Perhaps the idea was to have the Christmas tree as the focal point (since it's a tradition we imported from Germany) and a conscious decision was made that the table decorations should not detract from its grandeur? What surprised me most was that despite the very Christmassy red and gold colour scheme, there seemed to be hardly any seasonal, evergreen foliage - and so no aroma of fir and spruce needles to add to the seasonal ambience.

Somebody in the royal household is obviously very fond of poinsettia, as they are a royal pain to persuade to reflower and treating them as disposable isn't really in keeping with the King’s environmental ethos. There were red nerines, but I didn't spot any camellias (there's a variety called ‘Yuletide’, which has single red flowers and showy golden stamens… just saying). Lots of Anemone coronaria, which are easy to force, because they don't need a chilling period. I couldn't identify any other species from the photos - I don't think many different species were used, unlike in the earlier banquets.

Red is a slightly tricky choice for a monochromatic colour scheme simply because it's a colour that bees and many other European insect pollinators don't see well, so red flowers tend to be from hotter climes and quite a lot are bird pollinated. On the other hand, it's quite helpful if you want things in flower at this time of year as there are lots of American species where flowering is triggered by decreasing day length and they flower until it freezes…

It was definitely the least seasonal of the displays we’ve had this year. That was probably inevitable, given that a state banquet is expected to be an opulent occasion, nevertheless I'm a bit surprised more use wasn't made of berries (there were a few, but generous clusters would have added to the grandeur and opulence in my opinion), red or orange Cornus stems and winter foliage. I thought the overall effect fell slightly between two stools: lots of flowers, because it's a grand occasion and money and resources aren't an issue vs. embracing seasonality and eschewing artificial light and heat on environmental grounds.

DisforDarkChocolate · 04/12/2025 18:56

Cassiope · 04/12/2025 18:38

Just catching up on last night's banquet.

I fear I'm the only person who really didn't like Kate's dress. Didn't like anything about it and especially not the two-tone, scattered sparkles. To me it was a very stagey take on highly formal glamour and almost not serious enough for a state banquet. Liked the tiara though - I much prefer the wider style to some of the small, narrow ones (CP Victoria’s cameo one always looks a bit too small for her, perhaps because it's quite tall for the circumference?).

Frau Budenbender’s sleeves gave her gown some drama, but I would not have wanted to negotiate a formal meal in them…

I'm with you on the dress. I didn't like it at all. Not the colour, or the fit, or the fecking cape sleeves.

AllTangledUpInTitlesTiarasAndTinsel · 04/12/2025 19:01

SqueakyDinosaur · 04/12/2025 18:09

What I want to know is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE VLADIMIR TIARA AGAIN???

I actually half want that to be saved for Catherine to wear when she becomes Queen.

But I expect Camilla will wear it at some point.

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