Older female celebrities who are growing old naturally/ not using fillers/ Botox?

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Hello,

Can anyone give examples of female celebrities who are growing old naturally, ie not using Botox, fillers, and everything else?

It's for a talk I'm giving to teenage girls on body positivity!

I only have Pamela Anderson so far.

Isn't BP about being comfortable in your skin whatever you look like? I'm not sure how pictures of wealthy, better looking than average women, with the good genes and good health to still fit society's idea of attractive (youthful!), and so manage to be judged to still 'look great' at an older age are going to be on message tbh. The average older woman, botox or not, is not Pamela Anderson, and surely the message should be that that's OK, not take a look at how good some fortunate older women look.

Francesca Annis had a nose job decades ago, it totally transformed her face.
She is now, imo, classically beautiful, and age won't dim that.

Not a ‘celebrity’ as such but high profile how about Ursula von der Leyen - president of the European Commission. Aged 66 - she looks great & doesn’t look like she’s had any surgery etc (but of course who knows!).

It should be that it’s ok to look their age, but it will never be, because women don’t feel it’s ok to look old , Mother Nature is cruel to most!

That's why if OP is going to be educating on the topic I think her focus should be different. I wouldn't want my DD receiving reinforcement of that in an educational setting. I'd rather see the focus on what women can do with their bodies (and minds!) with pictures of women who've achieved things, athletes for example, because that's being more positive about bodies than scrutinising what older women look like.

I agree but the way the world is it’s always going to be the way you look taking priority- sad, but true. Beauty may be skin deep but it’s the first thing people see.some may have beauty brains and talent, but not many! Sorry to be so cynical in my old age!

Kiera Knightley - in Black doves looking great for not having anything done (other than her teeth according to google)!

Even Keira Knightley’s teeth haven’t been straightened. And they’re not bright white, so only very subtle bleaching, to the same level you or I could achieve at home.

As a teenager I definitely wasn’t worrying about ageing so I’m not sure how relevant these examples are actually going to be for your audience, OP.

The message I DID internalise in my teenage years was that my worth and value as a person was intrinsically linked with my appearance and how good looking / thin I was. I’d love it if my own DDs could somehow avoid growing up feeling like this and I don’t think showing photos of very attractive women ageing “naturally” is the way to achieve it!

^This, absolutely.

It might be better to focus for that age group on how photos are altered - in the 90s we were all very aware of photoshop and airbrushing, but I don’t know how much kids today really realise that almost none of the celebrity photos / images they see aren’t altered. Weirdly, despite being able to play around with lighting, makeup, filters and photo editing themselves in ways we had no access to when we were growing up, that generation seem simultaneously to believe that they are altering their images but all the other images they see aren’t edited! It’s a very weird doublethink. They may just need to be properly reminded that a lot of what they see online, be it music or film stars or social media, isn’t really real.

Kate Middleton very obviously has Botox. She’s also had tear trough filler at some point. She has very noticeably sunken / dark eyes sometimes, at other times they have disappeared. It’s definitely not make. I also have had this done and my aesthetics doctor also commented on it.

Drew Barrymore looks lovely - wrinkles and smile lines that seem lived in and natural for a beautiful woman

I noticed this too, she has a few wrinkles and looks natural

Katie Holmes?

Teenagers aren’t going to know these celebrities so I’m not sure that they will listen. Most teens don’t think about ageing ime even if they can tell you what the ingredients in a face serum does for your face thanks to social media.

Discussing celebrities who have had procedures done then reversed them might be much more relevant. For example Molly-Mae and Kylie Jenner had their lip filler dissolved. Kylie looks like she’s had other procedures but her lip fillers at the time were as famous as her lip kits.

I've always admired Julia Louis-Dreyfuss' fashion sense, and it seems that she is aging fairly naturally. Of course I don't know for sure. I know that she had let her hair grow grey after cancer, but has returned to colouring it. She also has a great podcast called Wiser Than Me, talking to older women and the lessons they have learned as they age.

What I find sad, is how obsessed so many younger people are about the way they look, far more than when I was young. (I blame social media)
Yet now those same oldies, who were young when I was, want to look exactly how they did 30 years ago. 🙄

People age, I personally think an ageing face is still beautiful, just different.

Actually there was someone doing some great clips on TikTok where she was showing just how thoroughly deceiving filters can be and also there are some things you can use on there that doesn't even declare that it is a filter for viewers and how much it can changes appearances in a 'natural' way but give youngsters an unrealistic view of what people look like behind the camera. I think that would be great to share with them

I'd be tempted to remind the girls that women can be famous for serious stuff.
Look to female politicians; Jacinda Ardern, Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Sanna Mirella Marin, Kemi Badenoch

Of course they can.
Do you think that only frivolous women have cosmetic surgery?

a talk I'm giving to teenage girls on body positivity

Bodies divorced from any other aspect of a woman’s achievement in a lifetime?

Why not flip it? Pick a dozen / two dozen women - scientists, writers, archeologists, doctors, lawyers, nurse tutors, explorers, professors, whatever - and talk about what they’ve done. Then ask your audience how much they think those women’s faces and bodies dictated what they could achieve in their chosen fields.

That’s body positivity.

I dont think getting teenage girls to focus on womens faces and evaluating them is going to do anything for their body positivity.

Also … Intersperse the photos of women with some men - pockmarked, beer gutted, bad haircuts … Again - ask your young female audience how much they think those men’s physical appearances dictated their Fields Medals or Nobel Prizes, or Pulitzers, or ability to move a human heart from one body to another …

How the jeff anyone can imagine body positivity is about film stars …

Agreed, @ColdHenrietta and @Branleuse.

In her book, however, she laments that she can love the signs of ageing on other women but not herself; and she also discusses getting plasma pen or similar treatments around her eyes, leaving hundreds of red dots, sounds fun.