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Your top gripe with buying clothes at the moment?

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Clotheswoe · 31/01/2024 14:08

Mine is that often when trousers are described as 'high-waisted', they are not at all high waisted on me. They just aren't hipsters!

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RampantIvy · 03/02/2024 11:46

That's another gripe - inaccurate descriptions!

And poor photography and not enough information.

My job involves website content and it makes me very critical of websites that sell stuff I want to buy

Howmanyroses · 03/02/2024 11:48

Just to add, based on the above I've now excluded buying anything new, unless on sale and only from a few specific brands. This tends to serve as a useful shortcut, not always though as with each season it seem like there is a noticeable drop in quality creeping in (I am looking at you Cos, Arket and Massimo Dutti)

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 03/02/2024 11:52

greengreengrass25 · 03/02/2024 10:38

In the 90s those bright colour silk shirts were in Freemans catalogue and affordable and I had a silk top from BHS

Saying that I wouldn't wear silk now as it makes me sweat

Can't remember anything made of viscose for instance

I'm 64. Viscose has been around forever. It's not a synthetic fabric but seriously you never came across it? Maybe you never shopped in places like Wallis, Dorothy Perkins, Bus Stop, C&A. Just about every dress there from the late 70s onwards (when I started shopping in Wallis) was viscose or polyester. Laura Ashley was originally 100% cotton but well before the end of the century, whilst they still had silk and cotton they stocked masses of mixed fabrics, definitely viscose. Monsoon was the same. I've still got Monsoon dresses from early 1990s- they're viscose. Even if you went slightly upmarket Jaeger, Austen Reed, the various Planet/ Alexon brands were the same. Yes those brands did pure wool suits and dresses, but they were very pricey and they certainly sold viscose and mixed materials

As for places like Freemans or BHS having silk shirts, yes but that was the odd item in an ocean of synthetics. Places like BHS, Littlewoods used to sell things made in a horrible polycotton material.

Howmanyroses · 03/02/2024 11:54

Kalevala · 02/02/2024 19:06

Can anyone recommend 100% cotton crew neck t-shirts, full length, available in a range of strong or natural colours? I mostly like the purple-blue-green spectrum and some neutrals like oat and chocolate.

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I just bought this multi-pack and it's good quality, nice shades and on sale https://rapanuiclothing.com/product/womens-basic-t-shirt-5-pack/

Women's Basic T-shirt - 5 Pack

A basic t-shirt is an everyday essential and staple for any great outfit. Refresh your casual wardrobe with the newest addition to our organic cotton...

https://rapanuiclothing.com/product/womens-basic-t-shirt-5-pack

HolidayAtNight · 03/02/2024 11:54

RampantIvy · 03/02/2024 11:46

That's another gripe - inaccurate descriptions!

And poor photography and not enough information.

My job involves website content and it makes me very critical of websites that sell stuff I want to buy

Yes! What I particularly hate is when the collar is hidden by the model's hair, so you have to scroll through all the photos trying to see it. Also when the model is standing in an odd way so you can't see the true shape of the garment. It's great when they offer a choice of product view and model view, especially when they have 1000 of each type of garment to scroll through.

RampantIvy · 03/02/2024 11:59

Howmanyroses · 03/02/2024 11:54

I just bought this multi-pack and it's good quality, nice shades and on sale https://rapanuiclothing.com/product/womens-basic-t-shirt-5-pack/

Sadly none of those muted colours suit me. I wouldn't call that a wide range of colours. I want bright, jewel colours.

schnubbins · 03/02/2024 12:04

Every top/blouse /dress is round necked and boxy or too short .Nothing is tailored anymore to the waist and long enough for those of us who are tall and long waisted .
Fabrics are awful .Everything is synthetic
Colours are with dreary or garish , anything in a primary colour is just frighteningly bright for example red not deep but more orangey neon, same for deep blues and greens
Everything is the same .every single shop sells the same junk in every town and city in Europe
More navy please .So sick of black.

Princessfluffy · 03/02/2024 12:19

I'm rediscovering Benetton. This brand was amazing in the late 80s and whilst there aren't many shops left I've been buying online. Good for bright colours and natural fibres.

Kalevala · 03/02/2024 12:22

Howmanyroses · 03/02/2024 11:54

I just bought this multi-pack and it's good quality, nice shades and on sale https://rapanuiclothing.com/product/womens-basic-t-shirt-5-pack/

Thanks! I was looking at the other crew neck packs, not this basic one, this one has more colours I liked that were available in men's, I think I'll get the 3 pack.

Howmanyroses · 03/02/2024 12:36

Kalevala · 03/02/2024 12:22

Thanks! I was looking at the other crew neck packs, not this basic one, this one has more colours I liked that were available in men's, I think I'll get the 3 pack.

No problem! Cotton Traders are also worth a look for jewel colours @RampantIvy

Buggerthislove · 03/02/2024 12:37

The difference in size between the different colours get me every time, I like to get packs of the same tshirts online for basics and the black tops are always just right for me but a grey for example will be a thicker material and smaller, same size, same tshirt. Why?
Shoes too, why is it impossible to buy leather anymore unless you spend a huge amount, you could get decent leather shoes on a budget 10-15 years ago that lasted now I'm lucky if they last a few months, I can't afford to constantly buy my kid new school shoes every 4 months coz they've died yet again.
And polyester everywhere like pp say.

RampantIvy · 03/02/2024 12:41

The difference in size between the different colours get me every time

This applies to jeans especially.

LillythePinky · 03/02/2024 12:58

Everything is the SAME.

No matter which brands you look it they are all selling the same stuff.

But with different prices.

And for me, being short, midi dresses are down to my ankles so I either can't buy them or need to alter them.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 03/02/2024 13:04

Buggerthislove · 03/02/2024 12:37

The difference in size between the different colours get me every time, I like to get packs of the same tshirts online for basics and the black tops are always just right for me but a grey for example will be a thicker material and smaller, same size, same tshirt. Why?
Shoes too, why is it impossible to buy leather anymore unless you spend a huge amount, you could get decent leather shoes on a budget 10-15 years ago that lasted now I'm lucky if they last a few months, I can't afford to constantly buy my kid new school shoes every 4 months coz they've died yet again.
And polyester everywhere like pp say.

M&S have leather shoes from £30 upwards. Plenty under £50-£55. I'm sure other high street brands will have too.

I'm not sure when the golden age of everything being non synthetic fibres and excellent quality was but for sake of argument let's say 1980. £50 in 1980 was £12.18. Were leather shoes selling for £12 ?

greengreengrass25 · 03/02/2024 13:13

Yes models with their arms in the air

Is this the reason to disguise a rubbish top

ginasevern · 03/02/2024 14:32

I second the round neck craze. I have big boobs and V necks suit me really well but everything bloody blouse, jumper or dress is round necked.

Also Wide leg trousers. I pray to god everyone hates them as much as me and they'll be off the shelves next year. They make me look like a clown. I hate them!

And finally, woollen jumpers. I can't wear wool, not even 1%. Where have all the cotton or synthetic jumpers gone? The few on sale are so frumpy. Do only old people wear cotton or synthetics?

GellerYeller · 03/02/2024 14:48

I recall buying wool tailoring and wool/angora type knitwear into the early 2000s from Karen Millen and Kookai, (remember them?!). Yes they were the pricier end of the high street but lasted. Ditto French Connection and Whistles; ten years ago I went to a few weddings and bought silk tops and dresses. I still have them. My Whistles silk cami top from around 2002 was £80, maybe £90 and still looks fine.

Shoes were from Shelley’s, Jones, Ravel or Dune. All leather, I reckon around £40 upwards for shoes, and Barratts was where you went for faux leather and cheaper prices. I had knee high boots from Dune in leather for about £90. This would be around 20 years ago.

Sales were where I stocked up on things I’d liked all season(this is when there was only one ‘drop’ per season so you could save up or chance the sale). Also, loads of shops had their own store (credit)cards. Not ideal but I guess some people spread the cost that way?

When I was a young teen there was a trend for Clark’s (leather) shoes which were about £30 in the shop. The factory shop near us sold them at about £15. I seem to recall Dr Martens were a similar price, £30 or so for the shoes.
My MIL still shops in Benetton on holiday in Europe and says the quality is good.

Hope that helps with pricing/golden age comparisons.

StarlightLady · 03/02/2024 15:04

May l add another moan? Bra underwires making a great escape from under the cup. This appears to be something of a new thing. I know l could for a non wired bra, but l actually like my underwires.

asterel · 03/02/2024 15:06

I'm not sure when the golden age of everything being non synthetic fibres and excellent quality was but for sake of argument let's say 1980. £50 in 1980 was £12.18. Were leather shoes selling for £12 ?

it’s complicated because of changes in the global economy since then. I have lots of my mum’s and mine and my siblings’ clothes from the 70s-90s, and if anything that was also the age of synthetics - but almost everything was made in the U.K. Postwar clothing in those years was not great quality - all the baby clothes my mum had for us were mixed fibres and synthetic mixes; ditto the decent quality clothes from brands like JL, M&S, etc. However, shoes were mostly leather (and comparatively more expensive than current shoes - and also largely made in the U.K.).

It was in the later 90s-mid 2010s that clothing quality improved massively, and you could get well-priced natural fibres even in the mid-market (Gap, etc.), as well as the upper mid market (Jigsaw, etc.) This was largely because of the globalisation bonus where we got to buy decent quality clothes (as well as fast fashion), largely made in the far East at knockdown prices because of cheap labour, shipping and currency arbitrage during the long boom of the 2000s.

I assume that what we’re seeing is the unwinding of that period when we could ship in good quality goods because we’d outsourced the labour. Now those economic benefits are reversing, but brands still want to make the same profits as before, and so instead of cutting their profit margins to still make quality goods, they’re swapping decent fibres for cheaper synthetics in the hope that the entire fashion industry can keep on as before and we won’t notice. Brexit didn’t help any of this, either.

Not sure if it will work though. In the West we have declining purchasing power and for many people the era of wanting cheap clothes at any cost is over. For me, I’d rather now wear the same few decent quality things until they wear out than buy cheap stuff I don’t like. But that’s in a way exactly what I did in the 90s and early 2000s anyway - it’s just going back to a time where we didn’t all buy as much as we’ve got used to. BUT I would just like to be able to find a decent item when I do want to spend the money!

I have lovely cotton and linen and silk dresses I bought, for example, for around £89 in Jigsaw in about 2010. Now, I accept that I’d probably have to now pay £150-200 for the same quality. But they aren’t even selling anything like that, even at double the prices. Brands seem to have decided that we’ll all be getting polyester anyway, at whatever price point they choose. Personally, I’m probably going to accept that I’m at the age where it doesn’t really matter if I don’t look the height of fashion, and I’ll wear my silk and linen 2010 dress instead of buying a crinkly viscose one that doesn’t fit and makes me sweaty at £200.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 03/02/2024 15:11

GellerYeller · 03/02/2024 14:48

I recall buying wool tailoring and wool/angora type knitwear into the early 2000s from Karen Millen and Kookai, (remember them?!). Yes they were the pricier end of the high street but lasted. Ditto French Connection and Whistles; ten years ago I went to a few weddings and bought silk tops and dresses. I still have them. My Whistles silk cami top from around 2002 was £80, maybe £90 and still looks fine.

Shoes were from Shelley’s, Jones, Ravel or Dune. All leather, I reckon around £40 upwards for shoes, and Barratts was where you went for faux leather and cheaper prices. I had knee high boots from Dune in leather for about £90. This would be around 20 years ago.

Sales were where I stocked up on things I’d liked all season(this is when there was only one ‘drop’ per season so you could save up or chance the sale). Also, loads of shops had their own store (credit)cards. Not ideal but I guess some people spread the cost that way?

When I was a young teen there was a trend for Clark’s (leather) shoes which were about £30 in the shop. The factory shop near us sold them at about £15. I seem to recall Dr Martens were a similar price, £30 or so for the shoes.
My MIL still shops in Benetton on holiday in Europe and says the quality is good.

Hope that helps with pricing/golden age comparisons.

£40 20 years ago is over £70 today. £90 is over £150. If posters are saying they can't find leather shoes at £70 or leather boots at £150 then they need to improve their Google skills.

Buggerthislove · 03/02/2024 16:00

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 03/02/2024 15:11

£40 20 years ago is over £70 today. £90 is over £150. If posters are saying they can't find leather shoes at £70 or leather boots at £150 then they need to improve their Google skills.

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I can't afford leather shoes at £70 or anything at £150 for a single item especially for a constantly growing teen.
Quality at cheaper prices would benefit everyone.

Howmanyroses · 03/02/2024 16:18

I think this article sums it up pretty well:
"It’s no secret that clothes used to be made with more attention to detail. Mass production and synthetic materials are so pervasive it’s increasingly difficult to buy well-made clothes, no matter how much you are willing to spend.
Dimasi prefers protein fibres like wool and silk. She says they have a “natural intelligence” that makes them better to wear because they thermoregulate and don’t need to be washed frequently.
“I do get mad when I see very expensive designer pieces made from poly crepe – it’s like they’re taking the piss out of the customer,” says Press. “People might say, ‘Well poly is durable,’ but for me it’s just nasty, sweaty plastic – and the only reason to add it to a garment is to save money.”
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/sep/19/garment-quality-not-the-same-why-closet-clinic#:~:text=Mass%20production%20and%20synthetic%20materials,Wardrobe%20Crisis%20podcast%2C%20Clare%20Press.

‘One size fits nobody’: markers of high-quality clothing are getting harder to find

From poorly finished seams to an over-reliance on elastane, cost-cutting in the manufacturing process is leading to less comfortable, less durable clothing

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/sep/19/garment-quality-not-the-same-why-closet-clinic#:~:text=Mass%20production%20and%20synthetic%20materials,Wardrobe%20Crisis%20podcast%2C%20Clare%20Press.

StarlightLady · 03/02/2024 16:39

When people refer to silk as natural, please remember it is made by boiling or steaming silkworms alive. That is not natural in my book!

RampantIvy · 03/02/2024 17:07

One size fits all.

No it bloody doesn't!
All the one size fits all clothes seem to be made for sizes 16 - 18.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 03/02/2024 17:22

Buggerthislove · 03/02/2024 16:00

I can't afford leather shoes at £70 or anything at £150 for a single item especially for a constantly growing teen.
Quality at cheaper prices would benefit everyone.

That's a fair point to make.

My point was that posters saying "oh but you could get leather for tuppence ha"penny back in the day" are seeing things through rose tinted glasses.

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