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Do you own/wear a real fur coat?

153 replies

Sumsummer · 13/01/2024 22:47

Can I ask you a few questions?

Is it vintage and does it keep you warmer than a normal coat?

OP posts:
Peppermint81 · 14/01/2024 13:42

Ewww why would you want to wear part of a dead animal

Grumpsy · 14/01/2024 13:42

Peppermint81 · 14/01/2024 13:42

Ewww why would you want to wear part of a dead animal

So you do not wear any leather or sheepskin?

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 14/01/2024 13:46

WolvesDiscoandBoogaloo · 14/01/2024 13:38

Alas for your hypothesis, I actually do look fabulous in any kind of fur coat.

You "look fabulous" in your head only.

The animal killed beat you hands down anyday before it was slaughtered for your vanity.

WolvesDiscoandBoogaloo · 14/01/2024 13:52

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 14/01/2024 13:46

You "look fabulous" in your head only.

The animal killed beat you hands down anyday before it was slaughtered for your vanity.

Edited

It wasn't slaughtered for my vanity. I wasn't even alive when it was made.

Also, you're confusing vanity with a desire to be warm.

Grilledsquid · 14/01/2024 13:56

FayCarew · 14/01/2024 13:41

Yes. Eating veal is bad because ickle baby calves are cute but eating beef or drinking milk is ok.

Killing foxes is bad because cute little foxes but killing rats is ok.

Yesh. Re foxes. They actually, where I am from, have to shoot them from time to time because there are too many and it causes spreads of illnesses and issues for other animals. Friend's grandad was huntsman/gamekeeper and her DG had beautiful fox coat from furs collected over few years. I wonder what happens to the furs now. Probably exported or used in smaller less obvious things maybe.

ShaunaSadeki · 14/01/2024 14:04

I don’t wear fur, but I don’t wear leather or sheepskin either. I can’t get hung up about vintage fur at all. It is far better for the environment to use vintage anything than buy new.

I don’t see the difference between eating a cow or a dog, we have just been conditioned so that most people think eating a cow is fine and a dog is not. For me fur is the same thing.

I did accidentally wear new fur once. I had a gorgeous seven for all mankind coat with a furry trim on the hood. I couldn’t believe it when I looked at the cleaning instructions after wearing it for months I saw the trim was rabbit. I did un popper it and not put it back on because it made me feel gross, but the rabbit was already dead.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 14/01/2024 14:14

WolvesDiscoandBoogaloo · 14/01/2024 13:52

It wasn't slaughtered for my vanity. I wasn't even alive when it was made.

Also, you're confusing vanity with a desire to be warm.

You're the one claiming you look "fabulous". I responded to that. The vanity is all yours and the person who bought it new. Completely disingenuous whether that was you or someone else.

There are plenty of non fur warmth options.

NetZeroZealot · 14/01/2024 14:22

I think the fur industry is abhorrent.

However, I was gifted a 40 year old mink coat by an elderly foreign relative of DH's (from a Northern European country which has cold winters).

I will never wear it and I don't know what to do with it, it is worth a fraction of what she paid for it originally.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/01/2024 14:38

FayCarew · 14/01/2024 13:41

Yes. Eating veal is bad because ickle baby calves are cute but eating beef or drinking milk is ok.

Killing foxes is bad because cute little foxes but killing rats is ok.

Veal calves are kept in restricted environments - not as barbaric as it used to be , the UK doesn't use Veal Crates now . But imported veal ?

They are given no roughage , only milk , and minimal excercise .
So that beautiful , pale , blush pink meat is from an anaemic young animal .
Nothing to do with them being cute .
Turkeys are plug ugly but still I'd think the same .
Enjoy Hmm

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/01/2024 15:00

FayCarew · 14/01/2024 13:29

My housemates wear them all the time, in all weathers.
They lick them clean.

Mine too . And they know we're a mainly vegetarian family ( DS isn't ) but maintain it's okay because "Their Mother gave them the coats"

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 14/01/2024 15:07

I know this started with Vintage Fur and the ethics of wearing .
True that animal is long dead . Not wearing the coat won't change that .
But saying its "OK because it is 60/90 /100 years old" doesn't make it right either .

Years ago women wore corsets to give them fashionably tiny waists . But they crushed the ribcage and impaired breathing and pregnancy
Women had healthy teeth removed to give them high cheeckbones

This isn't done now but we have surgery and cosmetic tweakments < barf at that expression>
In years to come we'll see how gross these are

Blood Diamonds . You can get Lab Grown which are chemically the same . (Like ice on a pond is frozen water as is ice from your freezer )
But the price paid for mined is human suffering .

So something was popular but now considered grotesque and inhuman.
You don;t need diamonds
You don't need real fur .

NetZeroZealot · 14/01/2024 15:28

But what are we supposed to do with old fur? Chuck it in landfill?

DewHopper · 14/01/2024 16:04

StarlightLady · 13/01/2024 23:56

Some so called imported “faux fur” on the market is cat and dog fur in reality. It’s called “faux fur” to attract a wider market.

Yes this.

WolvesDiscoandBoogaloo · 14/01/2024 16:06

No one here is trying to steal a large family of dogs to make into a coat. Nothing on this thread was about people wanting to wear fur solely for the purpose of looking good. You raised the subject when you wrote a couple of paragraphs about how you think they don't look good, which simply isn't the case because they generally aren't ugly or badly made coats.

The thread is about how warm they are. You can believe that your typical modern coat is in any way comparable in warmth, but since you haven't worn a fur one, you appear not to appreciate how significant the difference is. They're actually rather too warm for English winters in general.

And for all this, I don't even own a real fur coat. I've borrowed a few on occasion when travelling abroad in winter. They would have sat in a wardrobe otherwise and I would have been freezing. It would have been senseless and wasteful to decide I'd rather be miserably cold.

Yummyorange3 · 14/01/2024 20:30

My dear mother bought my 11 yo son a Woolrich parka for his birthday last October, the website says the hood is made out of real racoon fur from Finland so now I know why its so bloody expensive, I didn't know you can even import that to the UK legally!
Morally I don't agree with using or profiting off of fur so don't want to sell it but it's wasteful for it to sit in his wardrobe.. If anyone's son needs a warm jacket this winter message me, you can have it free.
Duck down can be cruel too and there are so many good synthetic materials nowadays

LameBorzoi · 14/01/2024 22:33

@OldTinHat When I google this, fact checkers suggest that these are staged videos.

LameBorzoi · 14/01/2024 22:37

@IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle Reindeer are domestic animals, who are kept for meat and (traditionally) transport. Reindeer hide is no different to leather shoes.

LameBorzoi · 14/01/2024 22:40

@IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle Deer can be farmed, but need very expensive fencing.

Reindeer are very different to deer. Reindeer are more like cattle in temperament, and can be very tame.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 14/01/2024 22:46

LameBorzoi · 14/01/2024 22:37

@IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle Reindeer are domestic animals, who are kept for meat and (traditionally) transport. Reindeer hide is no different to leather shoes.

@LameBorzoi I don't know why you're lecturing me about that. I had previously pointed out that even in the UK if you're going to eat meat at all venison, whether wild or farmed is as ethical as you can possibly get.

I didn't say anything about reindeer hide.

petticuliar · 14/01/2024 22:47

I have a few in the loft. I can't bear them. I wish I could as they are there and vintage but everytime I tried I just felt like I had a dead thing's pelt on me. Which it was. But I wish I could see them like leather which doesn't bother me at all. No logic.

petticuliar · 14/01/2024 22:49

QueenBitch666 · 14/01/2024 01:33

Bear skins. Bears are fed broken glass so as not to damage their pelt
Just imagine the fucking agony of their death
Humans are seriously beyond hope

This makes no sense. You'd just poison them. Or inject them in the leg Why would you feed them broken glass?

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 14/01/2024 22:51

LameBorzoi · 14/01/2024 22:37

@IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle Reindeer are domestic animals, who are kept for meat and (traditionally) transport. Reindeer hide is no different to leather shoes.

@LameBorzoi you seem to be under the impression that I know nothing about deer, whether farmed or wild or farmed or wild in the UK.

I'm not sure why you're lecturing me on this point. I didn't say anything about reindeer hide.

lapochette · 14/01/2024 22:59

I've inherited from my DM and DG, 2 mink coats and matching hats and a fox fur jacket. I'm not sure if I will ever wear them and also not sure what to do either them.

LameBorzoi · 15/01/2024 00:07

@IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle Sorry, that should have been @LauderSyme , and I misunderstood your comment about intensive farming.

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