Is Kate Spade not considered high-end designer? (& thoughts on other bands)

[Dogsrus99]

As the title says
What about Marc Jacobs? Radley? Ted Baker ?

All their bags are 'pre loved'. A euphemism for second hand. All their bags have been owned by someone before whether used or not.

I recently bought a small top handle bag, in white leather for the summer. All bags were the same size and similar styles and the order of prices from cheapest to most expensive were

Gucci
Dior
Chanel
Louis Vuitton

There was around 1k between Gucci and LV.

Gucci is funny because Alessandro Michele made it really popular, and so a ‘fashionable’ fashion label, but now he’s gone, it’ll be interesting what will become the new ‘it’ label. But being currently fashionable doesn’t make it any higher in the luxury categories, especially in pricing!

Correction there was £2410 between Gucci and LV.
Gucci was far cheaper than the others.

@Okaydonkey which Gucci bag were you looking at?

I think they’ve had a big price increase in recent years. I popped in the other day as I fancied a Diana and it was almost £3k

Yes, it was the Diana £2990, Dior Lady Di was £5k, Chanel £5200(ish) and LV £5400.

All bags have risen steeply in the last few years- these are small, phone and a lipstick type bags!

@Okaydonkey which did you go for?

I used to buy several bags a year but now feel prices are unjustifiable for me.

@PegasusReturns not telling 😂🤫 but it’s so pretty!

I feel the same- I bought 1 last year (which rose in price by £500 two weeks later!) and this will be it for a the foreseeable. It filled a gap and I don’t have any other gaps. I’ve definitely tried to buy more classic bags in so they are all used constantly.

My goal is to save for a Hernes bag for my 50th birthday, I have 10 years to save which should be more than enough time. It's just actually getting one.

Unfortunately Hermes, current policy is that you only get offered a bag if you spend enough with them. It’s rumoured to be £30k before you get the offer to buy your ‘wish’. That may change in the future though.

I started this journey then had a word with myself and now actively avoid Hermes because of it. Also because it’s the worst shop for customer service. Lovely once you get an assistant but there’s a lot of waiting around, until one comes to you. To me, that’s not a luxury experience!

There are always pre loved options though. If you don’t want a Kelly or Birkin though, lots of the other bags are unused. I suspect bought to get a Birkin offer. They are beautiful bags.

I bought a Valentino bag in TkMaxx, is this not a high end designer anymore?

@Okaydonkey oh I am well aware of that. If I went for a Kelly or Birkin it would have to be pre-loved as I'll spend enough to be invited to buy new. I also quite like the Picotin which is substantially cheaper and can usually be bought new, maybe a Constance but I think I would prefer Picotin, it's more my style.

@mrsbyers I think Marc Jacobs has been ruined by the amount of fakes around and the fact that $30 can buy you a bag at outlet in the states etc
Although this hasn't put a dent in Chanel, Hermes and the most copied Louis Vuitton!

Depends on which Valentino!
Valentino vs Valentino Garavani

But TK Maxx sell high end brands all the time and Valentino has outlet stores worldwide.

Sounds like a plan! Well worth the wait and investment, if you like bags.

Totally agree with this, I’m selling my KS bags on vinted.
I love mulberry, don’t think they are high st, not that it matters as I like the style of bags so I’d buy them anyway, plus Chloe. Not sure where Chloe sits but it doesn’t again really matter. I like Aspinal as well.

Kate Spade is definitely not high end & never will be if they are paying people like DM to flog it.

I think anyone churning out a fifty plus 'designs' at a time, who has 50% off sales, with no real stand out features to show you a bag is theirs is never going to be high end either.

Most of it looks like it could appear with an Asda logo on it at a store near you.

There’s at least one such poster on every bag thread, keen to demonstrate their superiority and how they haven’t fallen for sniff branding (the horror!)

Marc jacobs is part of the LVMH group.
The others I'd say are high street. Kate Spade luxury high street - Ted Baker Christ no. Cheap pink polyester monstrosities.