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Les Parisiennes des Mamanset: A Sin of Pride

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botemp · 02/07/2023 22:09

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banivani · 14/09/2023 07:54

Yes it wasn't clear to me if it was a model that they introduced or a brand at first. My current pair of jeans fit surprisingly well but have become too large on the waist with wear so that's annoying. In the sale I bought a size smaller but jesus it's like sausage skin, I'll never get into them. Love having a pair of jeans, hate trying to find a pair of jeans. I feel my annual cold season trouser depression coming on.

botemp · 14/09/2023 09:14

Is it the entire waist or just gaping at the back, for the latter you can sew in a bit of elastic band to tighten it up again.

I might steal 'cold season trouser depression ' for the next thread title, although it'll have to square off with The Mallen Streak Preachers option.

Speaking of trousers though, Cos seems to have quite a nice selection of winter trousers, although a lot is low waisted so I'm hoping this means I'll be spoilt for choice in the sales. The high waisted tailored ones do have the little adjustable waistband with buttons iywkim, I'm a big fan of those as you can go wide in the legs and fitted at the waist. There's also a pricy (for cos) pair with an asymmetric fold over front, it's a straight rip off of a pair of Acne trousers from last a/w that I really liked didn't fit me quite right so if these do it'll be a bit of a dilemma.

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banivani · 14/09/2023 12:54

I'd be honoured :)

I like COS trousers but they never fit me well so now I don't look. I find them too narrow over the hips, but perhaps if I'm in a shop I could try them on in a large size and look more critically at if I could get them adjusted at the waist. I usually find though that if I go up that size trousers become very baggy over the stomach/groin. That's sort of my jeans problem although I considered sewing in some elastic - they have a button fly and I think the whole front has just relaxed a bit too much.

Floisme · 15/09/2023 09:01

Did anyone end up ordering from Uniqlo C? I came around to liking quite a few things: the printed padded coat (which I can't quite explain as I'm not normally a fan) and a couple of the shortish but oversize jackets. And the orange lambs wool half zip - love the colour. It wasn't enough to tempt me to order anything but enough to browse them in my idle moments. The brown plastic loafers are sold out in my size so I'm clearly not the only one craving an alternative to black.

EffortlessDesmond · 15/09/2023 09:05

Thanks for the reminder Flo, but I mainly want a baseball cap! And maybe a pair of cords...

EffortlessDesmond · 15/09/2023 09:19

Ordered black cap, the grey was sold out and I look ill in beige/camel, plus navy trousers. We shall see!

botemp · 15/09/2023 11:53

Just had a browse, still not interested in anything to order. Everything still seems to be in stock in all sizes, so not as popular here, or we might just have a larger portion of stock.

I know what you mean with Cos trousers, Bani there's weirdly very little difference between waist and hip size, the variable waist with internal buttons should help with that. Do the loose jeans not tighten up from going in the dryer?

Editing to add: Vogue House thing, whatever it is, anyone else really puzzled by the outfits? I was somewhat expecting Met Gala light but it was all over the place. Curious to know what the invitation said because it seemed to be anything from wedding dresses to thongs...

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CrkdLttrCrkdLttr · 15/09/2023 12:35

Nice article on Martine Rose in the FT today! The words ‘world domination’ are used - though not by her. Astonishing that she started her label 16 years ago; I’d say I’ve been aware of her for about half that time at most.

Why menswear needs Martine Rose 

Long an industry favourite, the designer is now hitting the mainstream. She talks clubs, Clarks and being courted by the luxury giants

https://www.ft.com/content/db11c231-6ff9-484e-8c5d-747a525b5363

ShangPie · 17/09/2023 11:26

Fell off the edge of the world for a while there; DS just started school and the sudden rush of free time has gone to my head.

I’ve been lurking, enjoying the hats, pizza (but emphatically not the pizza hat - bo, you’re welcome to it), the welcome return of bani and battle cry of the enraged mm general chat and links.

Nothing significant to say, except that I am starting a new job next month that will take me to London fairly regularly, so I have to sort out some work-appropriate clothing. I tried to dig through my trunk of put-aways the other day and was overcome by a horrible sneezing fit - hopefully the clothes are salvageable with a bit of airing.

Two pairs of trousers will be perfect with a little tailoring, so I’m considering sewing in the school-uniform-inside-adjustable-button thing like at COS. Anyone here tried adding these, or should I just go the whole hog and get them properly tailored?

Other than that, I’d quite like some cord trousers but cannot be faffed with actually going out and shopping for them. We’re lucky to have an acceptable high street here, but… just, meh 🫤

botemp · 18/09/2023 15:35

Thanks for the article Crkd good to see her smiley face and that her employees seem to look happy in the background too. Hmm, is that article just coincidental or building up to something 🤔 I just read Chiomi Nnada has been named new Vogue UK head who frequently champions MR in her (now) former Vogue position and I think has been spotted wearing it herself too. The plot thickens, my hope might not be as idle as I previously thought...

Shangpie how kind of you to let me have the pizza hat 🤠

I've not tried adding inside adjustable thingies myself, but I've had a look at the trousers I have that have them and they're a twill tape of sorts. I've only ever seen elastic ones in the shops, I think they use those for children's wear, not sure how they compare. I suppose you can make your own if your sewing machine does a nice buttonhole. Otherwise doesn't look too hard to attach by hand, with a machine you'd end up with stitches on the outside waistband.

Getting trousers properly tailored kind of depends on the trousers, if it can be easily done at the back it shouldn't be too expensive but don't expect an amazing difference in fitting aside from size adjustment, the tailored look usually requires a bit more effort and tends to be more expensive.

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MmePoppySeedDefage · 19/09/2023 07:25

Here's an interesting article from the Graun about the way cheaper clothes are produced:

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/sep/19/garment-quality-not-the-same-why-closet-clinic

It's a useful reminder for me of what to expect from good quality clothes. It's startling how few clothes are made from wool and silk, compared with in the past although obviously far more clothes are being produced now.

Floisme · 19/09/2023 08:29

Thanks for that article MmePoppy, it was interesting. Quite depressing how the industry is on the verge of losing some of those skills altogether. I remember reading an interview with Margaret Howell years ago where she was talking about trying to open a factory in the UK but was having to rethink because of skill shortages.

I also want to know where this vintage market is that still has rails of 1940s clothing.

botemp · 19/09/2023 09:02

I read it as well late last night, I assumed it was part of Secondhand September as they've had a few articles in similar vein about lengthening the life of garments. Just did a quick reread, in the comments there was an interesting quote by Thoreau Walden pretty much complaining about the decline of quality in the 19th century, sounding very similar.

This is a bit I kind of miss in the whole demonisation of fast fashion, as if it's something new. No, there's always been poor quality clothes, they just tend not to survive for obvious reasons.

It's the rate of consumption of cheap goods that's the issue that's new and the definition of fast fashion, not necessarily the specific shops and quality of make (obviously they contribute and enable it).

They do tend to be a crappy compromise of affordability but presentable clothes. Going through those comments it's, as always, an odd mix of entitlement of expecting great quality at low cost without acknowledging that it means terrible social welfare of the workers.

Then, there also tends to be a bit of snobbishness towards those at the bottom of the social economic ladder for being so foolish for not just buying one good expensive item, as if that's realistic. I always get the sense some are aggrieved the poor don't actually wear their economic status on their literal sleeves like they used to.

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botemp · 20/09/2023 08:30

Simone Rocha is the next guest designer for Jean Paul Gaultier Couture, I was surprised and delighted at the prospect upon reading. They say next Paris fashion week but not sure if that's this upcoming one or the separate couture fashion week.

https://www.vogue.fr/article/simone-rocha-guest-designer-jean-paul-gaultier-couture-2024/amp

(Is she British though as per the article? I thought she was Irish Confused)

Simone Rocha to guest design the next Jean Paul Gaultier couture collection

British designer Simone Rocha, renowned for her dreamlike pieces, is the fifth guest to be featured in Jean Paul Gaultier's haute couture runway show.

https://www.vogue.fr/article/simone-rocha-guest-designer-jean-paul-gaultier-couture-2024/amp

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botemp · 20/09/2023 14:06

(Don't mind me seemingly just talking to myself 🙈)

Margaret Howell Sample sale is on next week for anyone nearby. I'd share online booking link but it doesn't seem to work for me 🤷

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Floisme · 20/09/2023 17:29

That's annoying timing for the sample sale as I've just had an unscheduled 24 hours in London. But I did use my V&A members privilege to get to the Chanel and Diva exhibitions so shouldn't complain. Will share when less knackered.

Mitsouko1919 · 20/09/2023 18:42

Hello all, I’ve been lurking on these threads for a while, I intended to read from the start before posting - I went back to 2017 and I think I’m up to thread number 5 so far 😀

I decided to jump in on this one now when I saw a reference to the Chanel exhibition at the V&A - I’m hoping to go next month (will buy a membership as it’s now completely sold out.) I think a few pages back a group of you were planning to go together which was a lovely idea, I don’t know if it happened. I’ve posted on other Chanel threads under a previous name and am very much looking forward to the exhibition. What did you think to it @Floisme?

I can’t profess any sort of detailed knowledge but I’m particularly interested in the modern history of women's clothing, from the 1920s onwards I suppose. I very much have my own style and don’t deviate much but it’s been wonderful to read these threads, I've learnt such a lot. I probably won’t be able to contribute a great deal as I don’t know anywhere near as much as most of you about the world of fashion, but it’s still nice to be here!

Mitsouko1919 · 20/09/2023 18:45

Floisme · 20/09/2023 17:29

That's annoying timing for the sample sale as I've just had an unscheduled 24 hours in London. But I did use my V&A members privilege to get to the Chanel and Diva exhibitions so shouldn't complain. Will share when less knackered.

Sorry @Floisme just realised you already said you'll share when less knackered!

Redandblue11 · 20/09/2023 19:02

Hello! I am still here, just too busy to post but barely keeping up.

@Mitsouko1919 we are planning to go in Nov to the Channel.
I went to the Diva over the weekend. I liked it but it was not amazing. The Dior or the African ones were a lot better imo. Still good exhibition, but they could have shown more I think.

MH sample sale. Thank Bo. Hoping to go if I can make some time.

botemp · 20/09/2023 19:03

2017 😱 <ahem> I like to live in ignorance that I've only just discovered MN and am still relatively new, I refuse to believe I've been part of the furniture for that long and could probably do with some reupholstering.

You can probably ignore the pandemic years, we went really quiet and then probably a bit loopy... Welcome anyhow @Mitsouko1919, the Chanel exhibition meetup isn't until next month.

Other news, Uniqlo collaboration 173846515719 this year, with Comptoir des Cotonniers (very confusing as they're owned by the same parent company and you can buy CdC within the Uniqlo site). Not the most exciting individual pieces, but all done well and for the capsule wardrobe/classic French style lovers it'll probably be enticing, stylist gets a special mention for a job well done on the lookbook from me again. Fabrics a bit disappointing (I liked the look of the brushed jersey almost jogger somewhat insouciant trousers but the fabric not so much, coat, ditto), but the jumpers are all 100% lambswool for not much money.

It's launching tomorrow but I don't see it on the UK site so you'll just have to browse the
EU site

UNIQLO and Comptoir des Cotonniers Autumn/Winter 2023 collection | UNIQLO NL

UNIQLO and Comptoir des Cotonniers unveil their Autumn/Winter 2023 capsule collection, which brims with a modern and feminine allure. Revel in soft natural fabrics featuring sophisticated hues, paired with the everyday comfort of LifeWear.

https://www.uniqlo.com/nl/en/contents/collaboration/uniqlo-and-comptoirdescotonniers/23fw

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Redandblue11 · 20/09/2023 19:04

Sorry!! We are planning to visit in October!!!
(not Nov) don’t freak out those coming …

botemp · 20/09/2023 19:04

There's also a really good Joseph and other brands sample sale at the weekend of the 27th Red <harumph> I'd been hoping that one would be on when I'd be in London for the meetup.

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Redandblue11 · 20/09/2023 19:05

xpost with Bo

Mitsouko1919 · 20/09/2023 19:09

Thanks @Redandblue11 and @botemp (laughing at the re-upholstering 😀)

If I make it I'll be there sometime w/c 9th Oct. I've seen the clips and it looks pretty good 🙂

Voltefarce · 20/09/2023 20:36

Phew! Thought I’d booked the wrong day off work.