WWW's six week 10 year younger boot camp, November 07 already, WEEK ONE AGAIN, all welcome

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Hello! This is week one of the ninth WWW 10year younger boot camp of 2007 although we have been a bit lost along the way, apologies and welcome everyone.

Anyone can join, we promise it works and you will feel and look better - and maybe younger - if you follow these rules.

This is about being healthy and feeling and looking better as a result. It's not a diet (although weight loss does seem to occur fairly frequently)

THE RULES ARE:

• Sunscreen at all times, even thought it's autumn
• No or little booze in the week. Wine at the weekend is allowed if you want it
• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can. Many of us have an Omron pedometer
• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day
• Apply body cream as often as possible
• Use hand cream/foot cream too, we recommend Flexitol, which is fantastic stuff
• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos
• Eat healthily
• Be happy

The idea is that at the end of six weeks we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage

I am most certainly going to be very seriously doing this over the next six months as I have an horrendous commute and the only way of getting through it is enough sleep/good food/no wine in the week so, do join us, everyone is welcome.

As usual I have been crap and have eaten wonderful things all weekend and last week as it was half term. But it has to stop as I am corpulent and lethargic so I intend to be an example to you all!

In the meantime, this morning I had a sausage in a roll followed by 2 slices of bacon in a roll and then wow, dh's amazing beef pie, which he made yesterday, followed by treacle tart from the local farm shop WITH clotted cream and I drank some wine last night but not that much and fell asleep cudding dd at about 9.30pm. Hmm. Being happy and going to bed early but not much else so I MUST improve!

Oh whoever did that is a real cleverclogs bama, brilliant!
Weeeellll, erm, I haven't eaten any ham or bacon this week....drunk lots of water which has not shifted the green putty from inside my throat, and expending more calories on whingeing about work than walking to or from it
But in pursuit of happyness, have just returned home from inspiring, amazing Minimus Training Day. I really can't wait to get the Latin Club off the ground at the dcs' school and have spent the day swapping ideas and scuttlebutt with other parents, teachers and retired Classics Professors about how much fun Latin can be.
Bama, I have two children. As we both WOTH full-time with no prospect of that changing, the logistics at times overwhelm us. It would have been very easy and very pleasant to stick with one, I've got to be honest, that logistical thing is one of the most powerful arguments in favour of stopping at one. If you are managing OK on one income, that factor is less pressing.
I think having two children works well for us as a family because dh and are both rather anxious and fussy, and now ds has dd to deflect some of our preciosity away from him. The playing together, the arguing, the having to accommodate each other, it's all good stuff. BUT we do have less time and a lot less money to go round. We adore being four. But I know several families where there is a single child and they are every bit as happy as we are (don't even contemplate the outmoded slander of the "only child" as self-absorbed, spoilt and friendless, that went out with the ark ), because it's right for them They are probably just as stressed out as we are too

Marina - thanks for that. I think that it's more than likely that we'll stick with one, it's going to be quite difficult to have another. I can see how this will work well but there is a little "what if that's just wrong for ds" in my head and I would hate to think that he missed out on a really good relationship with a sibling just because we didn't try enough. I suppose as he's so young the prospect of me and dh dying and him being alone to deal with that just makes me cry! Sorry everyone for the hijack it's just on my mind constantly at the moment.

Hello, had a terrible day bootcamp wise, culminating in wine and chocolate. (sorry www). Have been very over emotional and depressed all day, about all sorts of things - you know when something little tips you over the edge - for me it was that dd's swimming teacher said he thought she might be in the wrong class, when I KNOW she can do better, she is just being stubborn (but secretly I know she would do better in a different class), and I had to do that 'running out of the sports centre hoping I didn't meet anyone I knew' thing because I was trying not to cry before I got outside. Just kept crying all day. Not really about the swimming, just loads of other things going on, am stressed about the children and their education/development, work things, home things.

Hopefully tomorrow will be better. Sorry to moan in our microcommunity!

t/shell - sorry you've had a bad day, I hope the wine and chocolates helped. I think this is a good place to whinge - it saves me taking it out on dh!

Ts, sorry you had a rubbish day. Wine and chocolate justified by the sound of it. And it's FINE to moan here, absolutely. Anything we can help with?

Marina, I'm glad you had a good day, sorry about greebn stuff in throat, I hope it goes quickly.

Bama, thanks for that. Oh lovely, I'm name checked by the BBC pissed, and whining about the changes to Talk, how unedifying . Funny piece though. And I did whinge a LOT so fair enough...

Bama, why don't you start a thread about it? (not meaning don't talk about it here, you can talk about it here all you like, that's absolutely not what I mean - but you might get some good advice) What are your major pros and cons for another? How old are you too if you don't mind my asking?

Yesterday not great from a bootcamp pov

bacon sandwich
2 fishfingers and peas for lunch. More than 2 peas, obv
2 hotdogs at fireworks for supper
then cheese and apple pieces
2 toast with butter
wine
no exercise
plenty of water though
but didn't get to bed til 1am as we were watching an old episode of Outnumbered, I so hope that gets recommissioned.

I feel hungover. Obviously I'm not but I had a really hard day yesterday and now I'm exhausted and have a swollen eye (nice look). I was setting up the Autumn Fair from 8am and didn't finish until 5pm. And we have guests staying. The Fair did well, lots of people, weather was beautiful too so we had the BBQ and lots of childrens games/stalls outside. We took £1600, so will have made over £1000 profit even when the overheads are deducted. So that was good.

No breakfast, 3 Granny Smiths (I'd forgotten how good they are - I never buy them because they're imported!), 1 hot dog, 1 clementine, lots of Pepsi and lime cordial and rounded off the day with 3 or 4 slices of mushroom pizza - not Pizza Slut, we have a lovely little Italian place 2 miles up the road, who can be persuaded to drive all the way to us. Bliss!

Now I have to unload the car and pack all of yesterdays kit and leftovers away again. [big bored sigh]

Hi Bama - we too only have one, and will only have one, due to complicated genetic issues which I won't bore you with (suffice to say I'm grateful to have a child at all). So we haven't had to put thought into the decision. I'm an only child myself, so it's not something I feel strongly about, as I don't have a good or bad sibling relationship to use as a yardstick. Sans genetic issue, I think that DH would probably have a preference for another, but having discussed that in the past, he's not entirely sure that that's not a social conditioning issue, rather than a "because it's the best thing to do" issue. So my advice would be just to go with what feels right for you. I did see another thread on this subject a while ago, so might be worth trying to dig it out......

Hello everyone

Bama, I can't help with your 1 or 2 children dilemma much I am afraid.... I have 2 and am toying with no 3! Having 2 felt right for us (both DH and I are from 2 children families) and there are loads of advantages. However, I know 3 one child families who have all chosen to stop at one and there are plenty of advantages there too. Is there any rush to decide? how old are you both? How old is DS? My sister has one and says that she felt her family was complete when DN was born. I knew when I had DD1 that mine wasn#t. Still don't know if it is TBH but am pondering it. In your shoes I certainly rush into it if you are unsure but there are pros and cons each way. Will stop as am wittering now.

DUchess, fair sounds fab. How are you feeling now - bit better I hope.

Tortoiseshell, sorry yesterday was bad for you. Hope you are good today and enjoying the lovely weather (well it's lovely here - hope everyone else has the same!) Have walked about 4 miles this morning, had a load of fruit, only 1 coffee and about to go and guzzle some water. Will pop in again once kids in bed (by current standards around 10pm! Must sort bedtime out) Any hints for persuading a 2 1/2 year old that she wants to stay in her bed ALL night rather than join me in mine about 2.30am??

www - you do realise it wans't a real bbc piece don't you?

I have been relatively good again. I did drink 2 glasses of wine on Friday night, and almost a bottle last night (but I started drinking it at 5pm so it's not like I was guzzling) but that's allowed under boot camp rules isn't it. and 10 units/week isn't bad

I have a cold too - hope you feel better soon Marina.

Tshell - poor you. Hope things are a little more in perpective now. My problem with things like that is that at teh same time as being really upset over something that it relatively unimportant, I am feeling stupid for getting so upset. But we can't control the things that get to us and shouldn't try to.

Doh, no, I didn't Prufrock, I skimmed over the link and the talk round up, I don't have time to read anything properly anymore , thank you!

Not a good day bootcamp wise

toast x 2, with butter
potato wedges and beans for lunch
3 slices of pizza
2 of dh's homemade flapjacks
a vegetable spring roll
a mini samosa
a mini bhaji

no wine as work tomorrow and I got up early but then went back to bed from 9-midday, bliss. We have spent this afternoon lolling around watching a film, it's been a lovely relaxing weekend. I haven't left the house and very nice it's been too. Will start another thread shortly.

Am still gunky - hope you feel better soon too prufrock
And TS I know that feeling well - some days it just utterly overwhelms you, and it's the smallest thing that finally tips the balance.
Sending you lots of All Saintly love and hope that matters ecclesiastical are not contributory factors
Actually didn't eat too much today (nothing like a quiche of the parish to keep the calorie consumption down) and happiness rates high
Apart from wailing and gnashing of teeth when Lilia and Dom went out of Strictly Come Dancing. Dd was distraught

Marina, think I can safely say that they are! But heyho, never mind. You're quite right to say it's the smallest thing that tips the balance, which makes you feel really stupid for being upset. Have felt a bit better today, but things still not right here.

Ds1 has been very into the 'All Saints' Day stuff, and told me that a 'saint is someone who prays when you pray and for you' - think he may be a closet RC!

Oh, bugger. No So sorry
We hacked and sniffled our way through With a Voice of Croaking Singing today for our Patronal Festival. The entire choir wielding tissues and Vocalzones, not a pretty sight.
I'll mail you but am about to have to go and throttle soothe ds at bedtime XXX

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