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Royal style in the time of corona

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QueenOfTheAndals · 12/04/2020 22:14

Will we see any royals out and about anytime soon?

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latedecember1963 · 26/05/2020 19:03

I agree that some of the outfit twinnings with Diana are a bit of a stretch.
I scrolled down and came to the article about Kate that was quite interesting. It talked about how she has learnt to come across as quite bland in public but that her and William draw a lot of strength from the loyalty of her family.

BlingLoving · 26/05/2020 19:05

@QueenOfTheAndals I always think the "channeled Diana" thing is odd. I mean, if they mean she did it without realising it, sure. But the idea that she did it on purpose? hahaha. I mean, overall trends for women's clothes haven't changed that much in the last 30 years. The details, sure, but basic ideas around how to dress aren't THAT different.

thisenglishlife · 26/05/2020 19:42

Tatler have written a mainly positive piece about Kate, but it had some strange and seemingly passive aggressive bits (about Kate, William, Carole, Pippa and Meghan).

Very odd, especially as Kate is friends with the Tatler editor (from either St Andrews or Marlborough).

These are the odd bits:
‘Kate is furious about the larger workload. Of course she’s smiling and dressing appropriately but she doesn’t want this. She feels exhausted and trapped. She’s working as hard as a top CEO, who has to be wheeled out all the time, without the benefits of boundaries and plenty of holidays.’

while toning down her own rigid body language

Is the royal once dubbed the Duchess of Dolittle because she had so few public engagements stealthily establishing herself as kingmaker – the person to save, and salve, the monarchy?

It’s difficult to get a true sense of the real Duchess of Cambridge – so determined does she seem to project an aura of blandness as part of her regal persona. When I broach the subject, I hear the same sentiments from others, from royal insiders to society figures: ‘I just don’t know who she is.’ One member of the young royal set says: ‘I’ve spent quite a lot of time around Kate and she is impenetrable. There is nothing to like or dislike. She has a ruthless survival streak. It’s why she is so well suited. She keeps her head down because the prize of being queen is so great. She models herself on the Queen and now speaks like the Queen.’

while there [Marlborough] she had a poster of Prince William on her wall

when she speaks, in her carefully modulated voice (coached with the help of the late Anthony Gordon Lennox – friends say that Kate’s accent became ‘posher’ at Marlborough and that now she sounds ‘even more plummy than William’), she says all the right things. But where is the passion? Maybe this is a defence against appearing like Diana, Princess of Wales, who put The Firm’s backs up by being over-emotional... vulnerable... But God, she was loved for it.'

you never see her out lunching with girlfriends

‘Kate is one of us in the sense that all her friends are Sloanes and aristocrats,’ says one of her group. ‘She’s very much decided that that’s her tribe, even though she wasn’t actually born into that background.’

‘William and Catherine really wanted to be hands-on parents and the Sussexes have effectively thrown their three children under a bus. There goes their morning school runs as the responsibilities on them now are enormous.’ More’s the pity.

Both William and Kate consult psychics. A medium who went to Kensington Palace to ‘channel’ for them found William to be ‘open-hearted and lovely’. Kate, while scrupulously polite, was more ‘shut-down’.

‘I’ve heard that Prince William is obsessed with Carole. She’s the mummy he always wanted.’

Carole, with what some call her Hyacinth Bucket aspirations of grandeur, who, rumour has it, puts people’s backs up in a way Kate does not. Some people have apparently found her exacting. A skilled craftsman who worked on Anmer Hall, William and Kate’s country home, and is used to a roster of prestigious and potentially tricky customers, said that he found Carole ‘the most difficult client’ he had ever worked with: ‘She was exceedingly demanding, fussy and questioned everything.’ Carole has put her stamp on Anmer decor-wise. Far from being a typical aristo abode, with threadbare rugs...like, say, Windsor and Balmoral, it is, according to a visitor, ‘like a gleaming five-star hotel, with cushions plumped and candles lit’. Another adds: ‘It’s very Buckinghamshire.’

‘Carole is a terrible snob,’ alleges a friend of Donna Air, ex-girlfriend of Kate’s brother, James. ‘Donna is a really lovely girl, but Carole got quite grand.’ She adds: ‘Carole is the masterminding force between those girls.’

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thisenglishlife · 26/05/2020 19:44

(Not saying that I believe these sources!!)

AppleKatie · 26/05/2020 19:53

Both William and Kate consult psychics. A medium who went to Kensington Palace to ‘channel’ for them found William to be ‘open-hearted and lovely’. Kate, while scrupulously polite, was more ‘shut-down’.
This in particular must be bullshit right?

thisenglishlife · 26/05/2020 20:02

Sounds bloody ridiculous, doesn't it? Maybe they did it for a laugh (after being offered it for free)?

QueenOfTheAndals · 26/05/2020 20:34

Didn't Diana consult psychics? Or am I making that up?!

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TangibleTuTu · 26/05/2020 20:43

That whole Tatler story sounds like a load of tosh. Posh tosh.

Love the cover though.

TangibleTuTu · 26/05/2020 20:45

How is Catherine the Kingmaker? Except of course she did physically grow three royal heirs? Isn't the Monarch chosen by birth and rigidly adhered to? What exactly is the point they are trying to make?

mrscampbellblackagain · 26/05/2020 20:46

This tattler stuff is the nasty snobbish stuff that Kate and Carole were subject to for years. Oooh Kate sounds posher than the Queen, get Carole wanting a job done properly - who does she think she is!

Honestly, now Meghan is largely off the scene, Kate, Carole and Pippa can look forward to more of these very bitchy pieces.

I very much doubt Kate's friends spoke to tatler - I mean she is clearly not a fool so why would she now after so many years let them see her complain about workload when the lack of has been the main thing to beat her with over the years.

I think this is just a very anti royal piece in general.

QueenOfTheAndals · 26/05/2020 20:47

Also, what are these "sources"? Have her friends been speaking to the media like Meghan's did? And if so, should we assume it's with her implicit approval?

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/05/2020 20:57

Maxima doing a hospital visit in GIGANTIC SLEEVES!

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thisenglishlife · 26/05/2020 21:09

The article is by Anna Pasternak

'Sources':
royal courtiers (they provide the most quotes, courtiers normally come across as little shites so I am not surprised if they did actually say negative things)
As a good friend of hers points
Yet, privately, said another friend, ‘Kate is furious about the larger workload
a royal insider
friends say
says a friend of the Middletons
Another country grandee says
A skilled craftsman who worked on Anmer Hall
according to a visitor
alleges a friend of Donna Air
A member of their circle (Middleton circle)
Another member of their circle
friends say that
says a courtier
a friend of the Cambridges’
another friend of the Cambridges’ claims
says one of her group
One mother at Thomas’s
says one of her group [again]

Comment on Pippa:
‘Pippa now speaks like the Queen, too, and is absolutely paranoid about the paparazzi,’ says one of her circle. ‘She refers to her sister as Catherine or “the duchess” in public, which feels too regal and try-hard. Pippa is a bit lost now and is struggling to find her place. She’s always in the shadow as someone’s sister or someone’s wife.

No negative comments about the male Middletons:
It helps that in William’s eyes Carole and Michael Middleton can do no wrong. ‘He absolutely adores them. Michael is charming. Really kind, soft and gentle.

thisenglishlife · 26/05/2020 21:12

This is a hot mess, a sort of 'she would good in a sack' come real.

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thisenglishlife · 26/05/2020 21:23

Re - Kingmaker. When I hear that word I would think of someone such as Thomas Cromwell, Godwin of Wessex or Richard Neville (Earl of Warwick).

A kingmaker is a person or group that has great influence on a royal or political succession, without themselves being a viable candidate. Kingmakers may use political, monetary, religious, and military means to influence the succession.

I don't think giving birth would count?

The cover image is Kate's Bafta 2019 look, I especially love the Alexander McQueen white satin clutch.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/05/2020 21:39

"William is obsessed with Carole, she's the mummy he always wanted" makes him sound like Norman Bates! Confused

I think Anna Pasternak wrote a Diana book back in the day, maybe about her affair with James Hewitt?

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/05/2020 21:53

And I'm sorry but "There goes their morning school runs as the responsibilities on them now are enormous" makes it sound like they'll now be working 12 hour days. They do 1-2 Zoom calls each week, that's hardly having your nose to the grindstone!

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mrscampbellblackagain · 26/05/2020 21:53

God, I think puppa has the best life! Married to a multi millionaire and none of the scrutiny.

It is interesting as I think a lot of people have forgotten how invidious the commentary around Kate and the female members of her family was. God help poor Charlotte as we all know the boys won't be subject to the same scrutiny.

mrscampbellblackagain · 26/05/2020 21:56

And Queen you have totally shown that to be fair. The thing Kate was criticised for so much was lack of work ethic and this article plays totally into that and then people comment saying not exactly nose to the grindstone etc.

Personally I don't think any of the royals work that hard, not compared to the general population.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 26/05/2020 22:46

Ahh so the knives are out for the Middleton women again. Just to remind them of their place. I love the picture of Kate on the front of tatler.

frugalkitty · 26/05/2020 22:48

The thing about the royals is that even if they do put the work hours in, unlike the rest of us they're doing so without any financial pressures, worrying about their lack of pension like me and have help with the day to day running if the household, nannies, cooks etc etc so it's a bit much that we are expected to feel bad that they're having to work hard.

SenecaFallsRedux · 26/05/2020 22:48

Personally I don't think any of the royals work that hard, not compared to the general population.

I generally agree with this, though Princess Anne may be the exception. It also depends on what you consider hard work. I spent the day wrestling with tables and spreadsheets for a document I'm working on, not fun at all, but I still would prefer that to having to get dressed up, including tights for God's sake, and having to go out and cut ribbons and make small talk with random people.

As to Kate's speech being posher than the Queen's, I'm not sure what the definition of posh speech in the UK is these days, but she is harder for me to understand than the Queen or anyone else speaking "posh." I'm American, so my ear is not as attuned to British speech, but I consume a lot of British media and I have lived in the UK, plus I have a decent ear for accents. But I do have a hard time understanding her speech at times. I am a Kate admirer, but her accent sounds unnatural and forced to me. Maybe some of that is nerves, but it is distracting for me.

frugalkitty · 26/05/2020 22:49

Penguin I love that photo too, that dress was stunning.

justasking111 · 26/05/2020 23:17

I think the royals holed up is a problem for them. A zoom chat hardly seems challenging but they must have to swot up on who they are talking to. I guess they are still working with charities who will be suffering at the moment fund wise. Sophie has done a bit of dishing out food which is worthy. Not sure if the others have done the same.

It is not a bad life, but not one I could contemplate, always being on guard with others does not strike me as much fun. Kate is very cautious having been burnt I daresay.

mrscampbellblackagain · 26/05/2020 23:41

Yes, although the royals aren't exactly down the mines so to speak, it isn't a life I would choose.

Kate and Meghan could both have married lovely wealthy men and led delightful lives without the vitriol they have both encountered. Or not married and just pursued their careers/interests.

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