Royal style & gossip: who'll wear the most Colour at the Trooping?

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What neon shade will HM wear? Will the DoE attend? Will Kate have a new coat dress? Will Meghan make an appearance? And which of us will be able to identify every random Windsor on the balcony?

All will be revealed tomorrow...

@queenofarles so it seems. Must try and remember to toe the line.

I wouldn't want to be in either KM or MM's shoes. Both brothers have been brought up to be spoiled and given huge amounts of slack from the public. To come into that as an outsider must be hellish.

I definitely think someone said we can't put George Cambridge with Savannah Phillips this year as God knows what would happen
George was probably miffed he couldn't be with the Phillips girls.

It's just struck me Princess Anne married a man with a surname the same as her father's Christian name.

Not royal fashion but I just went to the First Lady exhibition in the Smithsonian. Very interesting.

I wonder if the younger kids understand why HM has 2 birthdays & that she really isn't copying Paddington Bear.

Imagine George & Savannah plotting a surprise for Great Grannie's Birthday..............abseiling over the balcony with a skipping rope! (The type of thing my DD & her cousins would think about & they wonder why their parents are going grey/hair falling out)

Should K&W have exited the balcony before H&M? It looked to me like they should have done. Likewise Andrew seemed to barge in front of Charles.

I’m with @itswinetime
I didn’t see any ishoos at all. (Apart from a serious Harry) but as pp said he was probably being hyper vigilant on Meghan’s behalf.

Just came across this old photo of Sophie in (I think) the same dress she wore to the Trump reception.

I think it looks really good here, so I guess it was just the angle and the sash making it look a little meh last week.

The lighting always seems dreadful on the state banquet pics as well - I wonder if the photographer(s) aren't allowed to use a flash?

I think that balcony is actually quite shallow and the wall looks quite low. A sharp shove from behind and you’ll go arse over.

No way you want the kids getting physical which the little Philips, Tindalls and Cambridge’s love to.

Plus William was told off in previous year by HM for not controlling George appropriately.

I’m not seeing any of the issues regarding H&M, they’re laughing with Jack then they stop for the anthem and go in.

What is clear though is the line of succession was all, intentionally or not, on HM’s immediate right. As popular as they are, that isn’t the Sussexes.

When I think about the Harry / William 'issue' I always wonder if it's something to do with the throne / William's state of mind / ability / desire to be king. Which of course if there was any doubt about William becoming king, Harry may well be pissed off, as the throne would go to him, and we know what Harry said: Nobody wants the top job. I have no basis for this idea of mine!! It just came to me one day. But then I always have have a wild imagination. Having admitted this fairly daft idea it may be a good idea to chat about clothes - it is so much more pleasant.

Likewise Andrew seemed to barge in front of Charles.

I don't think so. When they arrived on the balcony, Andrew seemed to make a move to head over to the side, and Charles motioned for him to stay in the center next to the Queen.

I think we may be all reading far too much motive and nuance into all of this balcony business. It just seemed to me like a big jumble of people trying to sort out where they were going to stand, without a lot of advance thought being given to it.

Harry may well be pissed off, as the throne would go to him, and we know what Harry said: Nobody wants the top job.

No, it wouldn't. There are three people between William and Harry.

Which of course if there was any doubt about William becoming king, Harry may well be pissed off, as the throne would go to him, and we know what Harry said: Nobody wants the top job

He wouldn’t be King, George would.

Harry would, however, be the first inline to be Regent if anything happened to William until George was 18 unless an arrangement was made for Kate it do it (and I don’t think there would be, even though it was done for Philip).

I don't think the fighting has anything to do with the line of succession ultimately anyone who doesn't want it has the get out clause of abdication.

The 3 cause/reasons I have seen that seen to make sense to me are

1. (the least likely I think) there isn't a rift and either everyone is looking to much into things or the brothers have chosen to appear stand offish for some unknown reason.

2. they last seemed normal together at H&Ms wedding so something after that likely either Harry felt that William could have done more to stop all the rumours or worse the people behind the leaks were in Williams camp and it's left Harry unsure if William knew or didn't. (Personally makes the most sense to me as it explains the house hold split ect)

3. there is something going on with the royal foundation so maybe something there has caused it all but I'm not sure anything there would cause such a strong reaction to 'go public'

Of course it could be anything or nothing but those are the most credible reasons I have seen.

There's definitely something going on between the two brothers. The wives seem very sensibly to be putting on a good show for the public, whatever their private feelings. I suspect each is loyal to her husband, whether or not they have any beef with one another.

Perhaps it is just a case of them growing up and apart, with their very different destinies.

But would we notice if there hadn't been press coverage about the alleged fallout?

That's really funny - I had completely forgotten about the 3 children!! You wouldn't think I had an A level in history and a mad obsession over the royal family would you? Forgetting about 3 royals?! Well that scuppered my idea thank goodness.

queen no.

Having been around since the early Diana days and seen many of the rumours surrounding her and PC turn out to be true, I can't be as sure as I once would have been that everything in the gutter press is false.

If you'd asked me at the time I would have thought it inconceivable that the Waleses' marriage was a put up job and PC had been shagging Camilla throughout.

People have speculated (not necessarily on this thread I hasten to add) that it’s because William warned Harry that he was marrying to quickly. I think if that had been the case we’d have seen frostiness before the wedding. I don’t remember any. The first I really noticed it was at Christmas. We can speculate all we like, we will probably never know the truth, which is as it should be.

Might have been the Christmas present exchange that started it all & William was fed up with Harry's pound shop presents or vice versa 😂

Anyway we need frocks, royal frocks!

Exactly @Myimaginarycathasfleas. I sometimes wonder if the people dismissing rumours of William's supposed affair are much younger and therefore don't remember what it was like. I remember being cross with the rumours about C&D, totally believing they were false.

I believe the press are right this time and every time I hear William going on about mental health I think what a hypocrite, because he's putting behaving exactly like his father without a thought to the damage caused to his wife and children.

@ Anne

According to a long-standing rumor, she may be allergic to horses, but one royal biographer says there's another simple explanation.

"Kate doesn't ride, purely because didn't do it growing up," Marcia Moody, author of Kate: A Biography, told Town & Country. "William and Harry were taught from an early age, but the only time they ride now is for polo—they don't go off on hacks like the queen always has."

Her supposed allergy and lack of riding experience hasn't stopped Kate from wanting to learn, though. During a conversation with Paralympic medallist Lee Pearson at a Buckingham Palace reception in 2012, Kate said she had taken up the sport, The Daily Telegraph reports

Experience has taught me these rumours don't come out of nowhere, and often the papers corroborate each other from slightly different sources. You have to watch out for the spin though.

I don't see why, for example, they would make up a story about the Queen pulling Meghan aside to correct her on how she spoke to staff when tasting cake for the wedding. More might have been made of it, but I suspect it did happen.

It's surprising that Kate didn't ride, as she seems prime Pony Club material! I bet the little Cambridge's have ponies, and then she'll be riding with them.