Royal style & gossip: down with fleeces and double-breasted suits!

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Previous thread, complete with our acronyms.

They are basing these accusations on how American women of colour are being treated and portrayed in the US not the UK.

There's plenty of global communication now. It's very interesting to me how certain sectors of the UK media and quite a bit of UK online commentary (and that occasionally includes MN sadly) have managed to adopt some of the dog whistle vocabulary of racism that most people in the US readily understand.

The lawyers around me (not Uk or Us based!) take their pro bono work very seriously. Just saying, it's not an American thing, per se ... but agree with you generally! I'm just saying that she's not a lawyer, and I'm sure there are plenty of Americans who don't give a shit about such things and the fact that she does is great.

^ sorry that was for Bling

I think the reference to lawyers was just to give an example of the volunteer culture in US society. Volunteer work and pro bono work are very much a basic element of American culture. It's the other side of the fairly strong sensibility against socialism and the welfare state. Private enterprise and private individuals are expected to participate in the welfare of society. It's an essential aspect of the American social contract. It definitely has its shortcomings, especially regarding the distribution of wealth and many gaps in social welfare safety nets, but there is no denying that it is a deeply embedded aspect of the culture.

I thought The Mail brought attention to the plasters and then alluded to a variety of possible reasons, one of which they suggested might be over zealous hand washing, due to anxiety, the innuendoes were very subtle.

Thanks Seneca - yes, that's the point I was making. Wasn't trying to say that US lawyers are just intrinsically better than others! :) And certainly, I think all lawyers take pro bono work seriously. The point was just that it's more embedded in the US. I think the US firm I work with has interesting statistics about average hours per lawyer in the US vs their other offices. There's still loads of work being done in other offices, but it's consistently more in the US.

Ditto, I am always surprised by how many US colleagues are actively involved in charity things across sectors. While here, except perhaps for the PTA or the odd sponsored run, few of the people I work with commit real time to this kind of thing. Our school struggles to even fill its school governor spots.

I think the reference to lawyers was just to give an example of the volunteer culture in US society. Volunteer work and pro bono work are very much a basic element of American culture. It's the other side of the fairly strong sensibility against socialism and the welfare state. Private enterprise and private individuals are expected to participate in the welfare of society. It's an essential aspect of the American social contract. It definitely has its shortcomings, especially regarding the distribution of wealth and many gaps in social welfare safety nets, but there is no denying that it is a deeply embedded aspect of the culture.

This is exactly right. Where I work, to be promoted to be an officer/shareholder of the company (privately held, billion dollar organisation), as part of the process you had to show what volunteer experience you had.

one of which they suggested might be over zealous hand washing

Is that not just because she has children?my hands are fucked!

Eugenie's dress is from Saloni costing £725.

HM looking lovely in blue on a visit to BA. what a smile!

Love the dress with the huge sleeves Max is wearing it looks fab.

I love the big sleeved dress on Max but I think it's a fraction too short. Just a teeny bit. I love the sombrero! It's nearly as wide as her smile!

I wonder if some of the plasters are due to nervous nibbling. I don't bite my nails but when i'm nervous i'll bite at the sides of my fingers without realising almost. When i was younger (and cared a lot more about stuff) i'd tear the skin of my cuticles till they bled sometimes.

I keep googling videos of DofC of her speaking and i really don't find her accent that posh It's not vastly different to me and I'm definitely not posh. Well spoken yes but not posh. I'm wondering now if loads of people think my accent is affected .....

@Myimaginarycathasfleas the hat works so well with the dress. I see what you mean about the length, but she carries it off well

Isn't it so predictable? The media have nothing to write about Meghan so they are back focusing on Kate. The male royals seem to get off lightly by comparison.

@DotOnTheHorizon if I wore those sleeves there would be carnage. Wine glasses and forks everywhere!

Leti in what is apparently a jumpsuit dress! Never ever heard of such a garment. It's from Zara. Actually I think she looks great in it.

I love Leti's outfit, looks very smart.

Wart solution with plaster on top for a few days = only way of getting rid of persistant warts on hands..... ?

@Myimaginarycathasfleas - lol, I know what you mean. I had a wonderful workwear cardigan (don't judge me) with three quarter bell sleeves - total carnage every time. Didn't learn and bought a long sleeve top with big sleeves - I could walk through a room and dust it at the same time!! I did not look like Max - should have got myself a sombrero to wear with it 😂

This plaster thing with the DOC is so funny - the DM have highlighted around 6 occasions she been photographed with a plaster over the same number of years! I rarely use plasters, but I'm sure I've needed more than that over the same period of time.

Maybe she's not too handy with the veg knife!

Our school also struggles to find parent governors but that's mainly because they only want you to apply if you can 'add value' either in terms of professional services such as auditing, accounting or data analysis, or have a proven record in fundraising.

It is not a school with the kind of catchment which would offer a wealth of parents with those skills. It is a shame that governing boards have been professionalised to the extent that an ordinary working parent is no longer wanted, but that is the result of schools being academised.

Anyway. I have a top I love which has flouncy sleeves. I look good in it. I rarely wear it because you can guarantee that before I leave the house I have dragged at least one of the sleeves through something, and probably knocked over a cup of tea with the other one. I'd be a disaster in Max wear, I'd probably knock someone off their bike in one of her hats!

It was mentioned a while back in the press that the DoC has indeed had eczema in the past so that might be the reason behind the plasters as mentioned by a couple of posters upthread.

She had a bad flare up around the time she was bullied in school and ended up moving to another school. Perhaps it continues to be an issue during stressful times. (Got to get my garden finished and talk coherently in public about it! And get everything and everyone looking tidy because Grandma notices such things!)

If it is the case, it would be wonderful if she could come forward and talk about it. I think it would help fellow sufferers but I do appreciate it's a private matter and she might feel too exposed.

How sad that schools don't want ordinary working parent governors Tyra ☹️

I can understand that Meghan must be frustrated with no right of reply, hence the wheeling out of friends to say how great she is, but she has willingly joined an institution for which this is an integral part of the culture. I do think the pace of their relationship, from dating to engagement to wedding to baby, has not allowed her time to absorb the RF culture. She is relatively junior in the system and it is not for her to change it.

With all due respect I think we should have been kinder to old 'super' poster.
I've partaken in other threads with her & she has always been kind & considerate to others.
I don't know who she is in real life but to me she always comes across as kind & genuine if sometimes a bit over enthusiastic. Which is not a bad thing.
Possibly the over excitement is most likely down to living/working in the US & circles mixed in.