Royal style & gossip: down with fleeces and double-breasted suits!

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Do they? I've seen countless documentaries about the royal family over the years featuring distant cousins or ladies in waiting being interviewed, and they've not been frozen out as far as I can see.

That's exactly what I'm saying - those people are approved. If people speak publicly and are not frozen out then you know they are speaking with the approval of the family.

Hard to believe Meghan had no knowledge of the Gayle king program , she was at her bridal shower, was at Frogmore frequently , and the makeup artist weeping friend visits so often,
Also the narrative is so similar to the People magazine number, Megan cooks, she is down to earth and so on.
Megan seems like someone who likes to Control and oversee everything I just don’t believe she had no knowledge or even gave her blessing.

DOK looks fantastic. So nice to see her.
And Max. Love her!

If this is the work of Sara Latham then she is not really good at her job!

But why is it wrong Meghan wants to put her side across? Why is it wrong she wants her version of the truth out there? As I say she isn't telling others secrets or running others down (that I have seen) after everything that has been said about her is it surprising or wrong she wants to tell the truth?

I read the mail article and I didn't pick up any vibes they were hinting at bulimia but then I missed the whole rift means affair too so I'm obviously not good at hidden meanings.

itswimetime nothing is wrong in doing that, but releasing the program right after the birth of Archie was really bad timing. Why ruin all the positive coverage with an over the top dramatic program ?

Nothing irritates me more than all the talk of racism towards Meghan, it’s just so rich coming from a country that shoots and arrests black people for no other reason than the colour of their skin!

Americans, especially African Americans, do know a lot about racism. That's why it's fairly easy to recognize it when it rears its ugly head in the UK.

I read the article regarding Catherine wearing plasters and I saw no insinuation of any kind of illness. Posting that you felt there was is not on really.

Yeah but her PR strategy has also been a bit over the top, in fairness. I started out feeling neutral towards her but now I think she's a bit self-serving. I would never ever in a million years say that about any other member of the RF, except maybe Andy.

It's really not a good outcome when I'm comparing her to Andy, lol.

Sorry but why would you need plasters if you were bulimic?

To hide cuts on your fingers / hand where you've cut them on your teeth while shoving them down your throat.

Except it's not usually the fingers that get cut...

Gosh, where do you usually cut!?

I started out feeling neutral towards her but now I think she's a bit self-serving.

I disagree completely. I think she's used to be able to defend herself and put her own view out there and this idea that members of the RF must just suck it all up sticks in her craw. Personally, I'm with her on this. I've long banged on (including on these threads) about how I think they should feel free to make a few on record pointed statements in speeches etc to fight back.

Having said that, I am fully aware that once you comment on one rumour, you do find yourself in a situation where you then have to comment on them all, which isn't a great plan either. But I see o reason it can't be worked around with careful thought and messaging. eg next time she's doing a speech at a women's event, there's no reason she couldn't make a gentle reference to her own experiences etc. It is difficult though and does mean yet more accusations of who knows what.

Kate tried it once, sort of, when she made that comment about how as a mother for the first time, even with all the help she'd had, she found it incredibly difficult. I think a lot of people really respected her for that. But of course there were also the "what does she know about it being hard with her cooks, and housekeepers and nannies and money" brigade who poured out to pour scorn on her. Which is really sad because, never mind anything else, things like PND don't exactly only pick the people who are already struggling (I was on super PND watch for DC2 as I'd had it with DC1 and then when DC2 came along there were a LOT of other issues going on with deaths in family, DH losing his job etc. And I was weirdly and completely fine).

Nothing irritates me more than all the talk of racism towards Meghan, it’s just so rich coming from a country that shoots and arrests black people for no other reason than the colour of their skin!

It is possible to be incensed about more than one sort of racism.

Bling I always respected Kate for that comment about hard she found motherhood. I do actually find myself liking her quite a bit, right from when she was "waity katey" or whatever the horrible misogynists called her. I also really liked Meghan on suits and also when H&M first got engaged but less so over time. Unfortunately I thinl this is because everything shes involved in is so image conscious.

So good to see DoK out and about and looking so well. Love her hair - and the fact that she seems so engaged with what is going on.

Ellllle I get that, but i think that's the nature of a glossier American TV star approach. She really strikes me as someone who genuinely does want to help the world.

I know a lot of people who live in New York through work. And they are all, to a person, involved actively in some kind of charity type endeavour. Might be as simple as a standing order to their favourite charity and regular social media posts or as detailed as being governors/ directors etc on charities etc. Or organising large charity events. It's like it's part of the culture. Ditto, I work with an American law firm, and what really strikes me is how much deeper and wide ranging their pro bono/csr activities are than firms I work with in the UK. And the sheer number of their staff who are actively engaged in this projects. And I speak to a lot of these lawyers and they are genuinely passionate about the issues they get to work on for free.

My point is that I think it's part of the culture. Or at least, a certain sector of the culture.

One of the things I still like about MM is that she seems to actually care about what she's putting her face to. I'm just not sure about the rest. But I know Ive been fed a story by the media and it's really hard to see past that, isn't it? I would like to see a more genuine person, is all. Like the post baby pics, loved the slightly undone hair for example, rather than the ridiculously expensive outfits that other people pay for (not me, I have to add!). She isnt an American celeb anymore, she has new responsibilities and I would like to see her own them, because I think she is intelligent and savvy and I think she can do a lot for the royal family & the British, if they the royal family and the media (& the public) let her.

There are lawyers all over the world that are passionate about their pro bono work. She's not a lawyer though?!

That's why it's fairly easy to recognize it when it rears its ugly head in the UK oh I completely disagree on this one!
From the Majority of the comments I read coming from African Americans, they link any criticism of Megahn to her being bi racial. They are basing these accusations on how American women of colour are being treated and portrayed in the US not the UK.

@LikeDolphinsCanSwin oohhh am intrigued! Can u msg me the name change pls?

I work with US and UK law firms. And I can assure that the depth of pro bono work and the engagement across the firm is more significant in the US. It's part of the culture there. More about Americans than about lawyers.

I have to be honest I fail to see that if a mother chooses to feed (however) her child in public that it'd be self promotion. Particularly if she BFs as no one else can do that for her - if baby needs feeding then it needs feeding. There's nothing self promoting about that. Would it be self promoting if she changed Archie's nappy or a sicked upon outfit? Cuddled him during a screaming fit? No. But theoretically whip out a boob to feed and she's screaming for attention. Why would any other mother be applauded for doing so - or allowed to do so without comment - and her be frowned upon?

Although saying that Royal babies never have screaming fits in public, and how they manage that I will never know! I loved the photos of Princess Charlotte having a good old strop that time going to get into a plane and DoCs teeth gritted 'come on now!'.

If meeting your child's most basic of needs in public is seen as self promotion then I'm afraid we live in a really sad world!