Royal style and gossip: new year, new thread

[QueenOfTheAndals]

Previous thread.

And let's stick to critiquing the outfits rather than the wearer!

Her father sold her down the river and is reaping what he sowed.

User 1457 - we don’t know whether she contacted her father when he was ill. Someone who stages events for press coverage like her father did before the wedding isn’t a reliable witness.

I understand but it doesn’t look good from a PR point of view. Lots of people have family members who embarrass them but she lost this particular battle.

Camilla is a smoker, or an ex heavy smoker, I don't know if she's stopped or not. But at her age the chickens would he coming he to roost, respiratory wise, and chest infections tend to be really bad. They can be chronic, and turn into pneumonia quickly. And then there's bronchiectasis, where you can't clear the phlegm. So I'm not surprised if she has a really bad dose.

Don't smoke kids!

By the time he was ill, he had already left her no choice but to become estranged because he sold the pap shots and then sold their subsequent private conversation to Piers Morgan

I am absolutely sick of him and his poor me bleating, all of this is his own doing, he is not some bumbling ignorant oaf who should be pitied for having an entitled daughter who doesn't want to know

He permanently exchanged a relationship with his child for a small amount of $$$ and 15 minutes of fame and that tells you all that you need to know about his character

Oh god lads can we keep this a Thomas free zone, I'm sick to the back teeth of the bloody Markles.

No offence at you lovelies, I just CANNOT.

Exactly @PawneeParksDept. Her dad's behaviour just smacks of entitled narcissist and he's coming across as emotionally abusive. I can't blame her for distancing herself. There was an opinion piece about it in The Pool which makes a lot of good points. And you only need to look at some of the threads on MN to see just how toxic some parents can be - Meghan would've been advised to go NC a long time ago!

Ok Elspeth

Well said Pawnee

Out of interest are you part Pawnee?

A parents job is to support & love their children- not sell them down the river to the likes of Morgan & co.

I had to change my entire log on as have had relentless issues with using mumsnet on my phone. But kept name similar.

I agree that Meghan looks nervous at these big family events. Her prep for the curtsey and look on her face afterwards was so clearly one of worrying about getting it wrong. Bless her. She's in a terrible situation where everything is over analysed.

Personally I think Harry is going through that same phase William did where he is absolutely livid with the media about the way they treat Meghan and as a result cab barely bring himself to smile when around them. Can't say I blame him. I also think this relentless pressure is what contributed to the speed of their relationship. Part of it, of course, was just that they were older and older people tend to get on with relatjo ships quicker (and end ones that aren't going anywhere quicker too) but I think part of it was his desire to have her into the family and protected. Especially as his comment about her "having the family she's never had" and not meeting Thomas makes it pretty clear to me that the two of them were well aware they weren't going to be able to count on her family the way kate and William could on hers.

@IPromiseIWontBeNaughty

I genuinely laughed at your perfectly reasonable question 😂

I'm sorry! It's a reference to the TV series Parks and Recreation which is set in the Parks Dept Of Pawnee, Indiana

It's my favourite sitcom

One last word on Thomas M. Before she met harry, Meghan was a minor actress in a reasonably successful ensemble show.

She used to talk about her dad on her social media accounts and blog but a lot of actors do that to project a certain image. It's like their CV. They're hardly going to start talking about how awful their parents are - a wholesome image seems to be a prerequisite if you're going to appeal to middle America.

She wasn't to know she'd end up being subjected to this level of scrutiny and the media would be digging into her past. If she was psychic then I'm guessing she wouldn't have mentioned him at all!

Moving on from him

Has anyone else read that hilarious DM article yet?

What I guess I'm trying to say is that things aren't always as they seem on social media and just because she shared photos of her dad doesn't mean they had a fantastic relationship.

We're always hearing on here about couples who post lovesick statuses and photos of Facebook when everyone knows their relationship isn't great in real life!

I can't find it @PawneeParksDept!

Mainly a lurker here but have posted a couple of times on previous threads.

To me, William looks in a state of anxiety, fiddling with the scarf is a displacement activity. He also exhales as they pass through the gate as though he’s trying to relax after holding his breath.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6533913/What-Kates-jolly-hockey-sticks-friends-Marlborough.html

Quality Journalism right here lads😂

Thank you Pawnee I did wonder!

I’ll read the articles later as desperately need a shower

TMI

That explains it about Camilla Elspeth, I wondered why she was sick for so long. She has the look of a smoker too.

Anyone seen this?

daily mash

My phone won't let me read the whole article in the DM. Tbh, editorial standards in the Mash are probably higher...

Here’s my two pennies worth ...

Camilla has a cold. William has a cold but has to go out to put on a show.

Philip is very poorly and on his last legs. The family colds will not be helping.

The Queen has had a word with William and said that there will be seismic changes coming within the next 5 months to 5 years. Charles may be the monarch but William has to be seen to be The King.

I think they all know that this is the last time The Firm is in its present incarnation and they’re all tired, anxious, filled with a feeling of dread and mightily pissed off that they have to be happy clappy for the gawping crowds. I expect W and H are getting flashbacks to 1997 when they had to comfort the crowds who were wailing and gnashing their teeth and accusing the RF of not loving Diana as much as they, total strangers, did.

I think this has absolutely nothing to do with Meghan at all.

The end

And you, the Daily Mail, can fuck right off

Very true about Meghan's blog, QueenOfTheAndals. She was promoting herself, developing her lifestyle blog and broadening her contacts and work options. She was living with a chef and going down the foodie route as well. Her life has now changed, and no doubt some of the self promotion, including her relationship with her father, will be used against her.
HM asked Andrew to ride in the car with her as a gesture, she's acknowledging he's being pushed down. Harry probably realises that will happen to him. Times are a changin...

Excellent points, Triglesoffy.
It was quite nice being Prince William, or the Duke of Cambridge, own agenda, lots of time with family. However, very soon de facto Prince of Wales (or maybe actually PoW) with his own aging father the monarch.