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Royal style & gossip: from maximum Maxima to minimalist Meghan

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QueenOfTheAndals · 22/11/2018 23:07

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 07:20

Kate is a product of that upbringing and is 100% supportive of William and careful not to eclipse him.

I find that incredibly regressive in a way. Is he that insecure? Maxima and Mary frequently outshine their husbands at engagements and they don't seem too bothered. It's a shame they're still so conservative here in regards to women's roles.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 07:26

@CurlyWurlyTwirly I didn't realise the Palace had confirmed it!

Rebecca seems to be behind a lot of the smear stories about Meghan. It was her who said they broke the baby news at Eugenie's wedding, which everyone then took as fact. I don't trust the Mail's agenda in general - they have it in for any woman who isn't a conservative little wife!

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 07:31

Ok I found the press release but maintain that the reasons behind it are just speculation!

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Paradyning · 26/11/2018 07:51

I am dying for the ambassador's reception thingy so we can go back to whingeing about not being able to see the dresses!
At least we'll see the tiaras

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 26/11/2018 07:56

There was a surprise photo in 2016.
( You can see why Phillip, Charles and William would not want to be photographed in knee britches. They look ridiculous.)

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 07:57

Why the knee britches? Something to do with the Order of the Farter?

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 07:58

Garter!!! Though at Philip's age...

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QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 07:59

I like Kate's dress there but not sure it's the right shade of red. But any deeper and she'd have blended in with the carpet, so...

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IdaBWells · 26/11/2018 08:00

I am neutral on Meghan but I think the comments on her being "opinionated" could be very culturally based. I live in the US with an American DS and 3 American born kids (although we lived in mainland Europe for six years quite recently).

In the US being vague and without a clear opinion is definitely not seen as a good thing. You are expected to have an opinion and voice it, if you want or need something then let people know.

Our British tendency of carefully avoiding treading on toes and hinting at our preferences is just not decisive enough for Americans and would be seen as quite pathetic. Having an opinion and being direct about it is perfectly acceptable and expected. It is considered rude for people to have to make educated guesses about what you want. It is a pragmatic, straightforward culture. I have lived in Germany and I find them very similar.

In Britain modesty is a virtue and we live in fear of being seen to "make a fuss" so we tend to look around at others and gauge our response carefully. This kind of subtlety is generally completely lost on Americans. Of course this is not the case with all Brits, I am making general assertions here but we have a lot of non verbal cues that we look for when communicating what we want.

My waffle is to say that Meghan could be baldly stating her desires, not in what Americans would consider a rude way, but just a very direct, clear, no nonsense, no confusion way. This type of communication in the UK can unfortunately be read as extremely assertive/borderline rude. Being "opinionated" is a classic British putdown. We know it means so much more, mostly outrageously pushy and demanding. Especially from women who are encouraged to not be direct when communicating.

Therefore Megs, who seems like a very typical American career woman, expects to get things done and wants to make sure everyone "is on the same page" so has probably been communicating in ways that she believes will prevent confusion. Instead she may be constantly offending and irritating the typical Brits around her by what they see as social aggression Grin.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 26/11/2018 08:02

This was Kate and William in 2017

The men are also wearing hose (tights) and slip on pumps. Eek!
The evening gowns for official events seem rather conservative compared to the tantalising glimpse of private function gowns. Ie the pink alleged Marchesa with stupendous earrings which Kate wore to Charles 70th.

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user1457017537 · 26/11/2018 08:03

I’m not sure re Frogmore I can’t believe MM would want to be so far away from the action. There is also the fact that it is Wallis Simpson’s final resting place. It is a journey of 25 miles to Crntral London do they plan to block off roads so they can have fast access into London with outriders etc. Where I live you see this

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Horsemad · 26/11/2018 08:09

Proper LOL'd at Order of the Farter!!! 🤣🤣🤣

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 26/11/2018 08:10

Interesting points @IdaBWells I can totally see that. Based on the presentation of the Royal Foundation before the wedding, you could see that Meghan knows very well that she has to be circumspect in what she says. But in private; fair dues to her for asserting herself and Harry supporting her for their family life. As they say in the US; she is a “quick study”.

Re: missing out on the action, I’m not sure what they would miss in a London. They will be driven to work, don’t have to commute in rush hour. If they are desperate; someone lays on a helicopter. Sophie lives in Bagshot some where in Surrey I think and it’s never stopped her doing all her engagements.

QueenOfTheAndals · 26/11/2018 08:13

Oh I thought Sophie lived in Windsor too? Or maybe I assumed bagshot was near there.

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user1457017537 · 26/11/2018 08:16

Frogmore, whilst undeniably beautiful, may be a bit tame for someone used to a Hollywood lifestyle.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 26/11/2018 08:23

She’s got soho house at the weekends.
Anyway, in LA, I think they are actually pretty boring, early to bed, teetotal, into their yoga & healthy food.
I would assume she misses working on Suits, and her blog & basically having a voice. I suspect she will be a hands on mum and have Doria to help. Hence doing loads of engagements now, so she can legitimately take 6 months off.

ItsNiceItsDifferentItsUnusual · 26/11/2018 08:26

Love Kate's whole look in that last pic curly

I never thought about how on show you are at KP. Do they have a proper garden the kids could run about in? I don't blame H&M at all for not wanting that sort of penned in environment.

(I'm aware the Cambridge apartment at KP is a luxury beyond luxury but still - it's within what is essentially a compound).

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 26/11/2018 08:30

In the DM article, it says that there is not much room to run around in private. They have grown some conifers which are apparently really slow. But there is a private road next to KP which people use as a shortcut, so the children can be seen.

Spudlet · 26/11/2018 08:31

Apparently Frogmore Cottage has 10 bedrooms (according to Wikipedia). Now I know for sure that the rich are trolling us with this whole 'cottage' thing Grin

Bloominglovely · 26/11/2018 08:42

I have to wonder if the renovations and refurb of all these buildings is really necessary or just personal taste ie putting in swimming pools, redesigning whole houses seems extraordinarily extravagant for properties they move out of as quickly as they move into. Still I suppose when they are not paying for most of it themselves........

Spudlet · 26/11/2018 08:46

According to the Telegraph article, the cottage has been subdivided as staff accommodation so I guess it will need to be undivided again? Bit rough if you're a staff member having to move- assuming it's still being used as such, of course.

Paradyning · 26/11/2018 08:51

Lol Queen.

We've also got he Swedish Nobel dis coming up where they don tiaras and gowns. They will not starve us of pics!

For a long time now at least one of the princesses has been pregnant at the Nobel do too. Would be good to see Megs in something like that at the Ambassador's do.

Paradyning · 26/11/2018 08:52

Think both M and Sofia are both pregnant here

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FlamingJuno · 26/11/2018 08:53

Bagshot is across the park from Windsor Castle. Sophie and Edward live there, Andrew and Sarah live at Royal Lodge down the road and PP lives in another cottage on the estate. HMQ is there at weekends. H&M will have plenty of rellies around, most of them higher up the pecking order than the minors at KP (apart from K&W obvs). IMO that puts a slightly different slant on the move.
Plus it's v handy for LHR, which presumably they'll be using a lot for their work in the Commonwealth.

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