Royal style & gossip: from maximum Maxima to minimalist Meghan

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Fergie manged to make enough deals of the back of being an ex royal! I know she then lost it all but I thought that was more to do with her lifestyle and a series of blunders than lack of offers but I maybe wrong. And then there is the divorce settlement too. No one can know others fiances but I dont think Meghan needs to worry about being on the breadline anytime soon. And even if she was still doesn't makes selling things you got to free to the public if she has, which she probably hasnt right.

I don't think she can sneeze at the moment without being accused of starting a flu pandemic in the uk or some such shit!

Any child in the direct line of the monarch is the 'property' of the crown

Sorry, I cross posted with you IcedPurple, but is the above really so?? I get that a monarch might feel that way, but honestly didn't know they could actually enforce it

Fascinating (and possibly a bit sinister) if so

Maybe there is a world-wide NDA or it could be filed worldwide.

In the event of a possible divorce settlement I wouldn’t have thought MM would have to resort to selling her story. I would think there would be a more than generous settlement. Feel bad even thinking about this as they have only just married and seem more than happy together.

Inviting almost no personal friends to her wedding while having the Clooneys there? No way they'd have attended her wedding had she married a set designer from 'Suits'.

She had several friends attending, the majority of her Suits cast mates for one - the show has been running about 7 or 8 years I think.

And weren't the Clooneys friends of Harry's rather than friends of hers? Though you never know with these royal weddings - Demi Moore attending Eugenie's was a bit strange too.

Sorry, I cross posted with you IcedPurple, but is the above really so?? I get that a monarch might feel that way, but honestly didn't know they could actually enforce it

Hopefully someone better informed than I will come along soon to let us know if it's true, but if it is, I would think it would be pretty easy to enforce in the sense that Meghan (or anyone else theoretically) could be prevented from leaving the country with a 'royal' child.

I know that when CP Mary of Denmark married Frederick, she had to convert to Lutheranism, give up her Australian citizenship and agree that in the event of divorce, the royal family would have custody of ay children, who would have to be raised in Denmark. Of course, Mary's son will be king so rules might be stricter, but I'd be surprised if there weren't similar restrictions for any of the British queen's direct line. Again, open to correction however.

Fascinating (and possibly a bit sinister) if so

I guess.... but then again isn't the whole concept of royalty a bit sinister? I mean, a few weeks ago in Tonga we had an event being called off because of the huge numbers of people who turned up to see a woman none of them would have looked twice at only a few years ago.... simply because she married someone whose only 'achievement' was to be born to the 'right' people.

We seem to have drifted towards "if they divorce" talk again, which isn't really (to quote MNHQ) in the spirit of this thread. There's no evidence they're anything but very happy, and to talk about them splitting up is a bit mean-spirited so let's draw a line under it.

She had several friends attending, the majority of her Suits cast mates for one - the show has been running about 7 or 8 years I think

But not one childhood or non-work related friend as I recall. Nobody to prevent her mother looking so isolated. I did think it all a bit sad.

And weren't the Clooneys friends of Harry's rather than friends of hers? Though you never know with these royal weddings - Demi Moore attending Eugenie's was a bit strange too.

I guess it depends how you define 'friends'. Do Harry and the Clooneys see each other on a regular basis? Unlikely given that they mostly live on different continents.

I wasn't that keen on CPM's white dress that was posted upthread but am loving this cape! It's not cheap, but it isn't prohibitively expensive either.
https://stenstroms.com/en/20182/4712346151190

How would we know though @IcedPurple? She could've had friends there but the guest lists are never revealed so we'd never know.

And I assume the Clooneys spend a fair bit of time in London due to Amal's job. But royal weddings seem to involve inviting acquaintances from the causes you're involved in (eg the Beckhams) rather than close friends only, so who knows!

Just done a quick bit of research (otherwise known as The Google) and it seems that yes, any royal children are indeed the property of the crown:

^Today in downsides of being a royal, News.com.au and The Sun are reporting that technically, Kate Middleton and Prince William do not have legal custody over their children Prince George, Princess Charlotte, or Prince Louis due to a 300-year-old royal law that gives custody to the sovereign, aka the Queen. This law applies to all minor grandchildren and means that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will have to deal with it too when and if they decide to have children.

“This goes back to King George I [who ruled in the early 1700s], and the law’s never been changed," royal historian and expert Marlene Koenig told news.com.au. "He did it because he had a very poor relationship with his son, the future King George II, so they had this law passed that meant the King was the guardian of his grandchildren.” That law was passed in 1717 and hasn't been changed by new legislation.^

Of course, whether Liz - or Charles - would enforce their rights is another question, and as mentioned above, we are getting ahead of ourselves a tad in any case.

www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a22788066/why-kate-middleton-prince-william-dont-have-custody-of-kids-prince-george-louis-princess-charlotte/

How would we know though @IcedPurple? She could've had friends there but the guest lists are never revealed so we'd never know.

We know that her mother was entirely alone throughout the proceedings, and while the guest lists are never published, it's not hard to find the information. I'd imagine if she had any childhood friends there we would know.

And I assume the Clooneys spend a fair bit of time in London due to Amal's job.

Her 'job' since her marriage seems to involve getting photographed in very expensive clothes - with the press always somehow getting the designer ID - while giving speeches and attending prestigious events, most of them outside of the UK. They may be acquaintances, but hardly 'friends' in any real sense of the word, I suspect.

Talking of Amal can we bring her into this thread please? Saw her on a documentary a few days ago about the EU or something and she's stunning! She popped up on camera just randomly looking like royalty so I think we should include her 😀. Also loved her mustard dress at MM and Harrys wedding.

I hated that mustard dress!!

Amal still works as a barrister but her day to day legal work is hardly likely to hit the headlines.

Wiisglitter I’m not an Amal fan and I hated the mustard outfit

Amal is very striking and does wear some beautiful clothes (though I was lukewarm on the mustard dress), but it's her legal CV that impresses me more than anything!

Oh okay. Will adore her solo then 😀.

Just for you then @TipseyTorvey https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/red-carpet-dresses/g4358/amal-alamuddin-style/

I like her daywear better than her night time outfits. Some rather strange choices there.

The one Eugenie/Harry wedding guest thing I did find odd was Oprah. At Harry's and not Eugenie's after such famed working with Ferg?

I loved it too.

Eugenie had Ricky Martin and Robbie Williams at hers, didn't she? She must be a big fan of music from 2004.

Not only was Robbie there, but his daughter was a bridesmaid! I guess it's not inconceivable that Eugenie would know him, but Ricky Martin and Demi Moore?

Certainly an eclectic mix!

Staying on the Amal tangent, I’ve never taken much notice, but had the impression she was probably well dressed. Not loving many of her looks on that slide show though (although I only made it to the 25th photo). She does look beautiful in the burgundy velvet dress though, on the 5th photo.

IcedPurple thanks for those quotes - very interesting

Another one here who disliked Amal's "mustard pot", but not sure why the surprise over certain celebs at the various weddings? After all, they might not necessarily be friends of the B&G but of the parents ... and there's hardly a lack of space or money at royal events

Here's a point though - apart from attendants you hardly ever see children at royal weddings. Now there's something I'm amazed not to have seen mentioned on MN!!