Forever Autumn Forever Crepey

[cremolafoam]

The summer sun is fading as the year grows old,
and darker days are drawing near,
the winter winds will be much colder,
now you're not here.
I watch the birds fly south across the autumn sky
and one by one they disappear
I wish that I was flying with them,
now you're not here

Welcome back NU! I don't mind the washing tbh, it's the ruddy ironing and putting away . ( supportive hug)

Auriga- very very best of luck today.
I also have a history of failed and desperate IvF . My heart goes out to you. And also to your friends MI.
There are no words . In fact because there are no words we didn't tell anyone in RL when I lost our twins.

Oh Cremo and Auriga

It must be truly heart-breaking to lose babies and suffer failed IVF - my heart goes out to everyone who does.

Rudy, it's a beautiful day, it's good exercise and it's setting a good example in your job!

Auriga and Crem, I am so, so sorry to hear about your lost babies . And about your friend MI.

Oh Crem and Auriga

It's bloody awful. Life is so arbitrary and unfair sometimes.

On another note I'm impressed that the earth moved for you, NU

I must tie up a recalcitrant feature which ought to be easy, and also inform my friend firmly that I am going to India. She'is the only person who is worried things will go horribly wrong while I am away and as we are planning to go together I am finding this v wearing - I was crying yesterday, in fact. I want to crack on!

Rudy make the most of it! Rain arrived here today, for the first time in a month. It's truly grim. I have my bright red boden mac on to cheer me thru the day. Yesterday was not v nice in the office. There was a was of attrition over some petty ishoos which lasted all day and caused An Atmosphere. Today Must be better or I will seriously start looking for a new job. Hatewhen bitchiness becomes the status quo.

Dd had her first lecture yesterday and is excited about her course : all good
I have started to address the empty nest thing and planned nights out most weeks until Christmas ( and if course a Crepey weekend) dh is prickly about the prospect of going out in the Real World, but I'm hoping he will rally.
In S & B news I am embracing mustard as a colour choice. Got yellow legs( tights) which are vv lovely

Crem, bright red mac and yellow legs you are intent on cheering them up in the office.

So pleased dd is positive and hope dh adjusts to the new norm.
I am on a bus on my way to work, having just spent a very hot night in a Traveldodgy. Sort of Bikram sleeping.

Cremo, I love bright colours - go for it! And well done for organising stuff to do. Hope your DH rallies. Fantastic that your DD is positive too - what a great start!

Beachy, are you sure it wasn't the night sweats?

DD went off very positive this morning and no calls yet...

BTM, your DC's head takes the cake, doesn't he.

I have Ladyjogged YET AGAIN. I appear to be thinner and more energetic but heavier.

It's muscle MI

I've just done yoga, the last time for this class as this time next week I'll be in my tuition group! I do love it, but it highlights all the bits of me that are stiff/weak/collapsing, in an unwelcome manner.

Welcome home NU !

crem auriga that's very painful to hear. Hugs to you both. I work with expectant woman and rarely know what's gone on before, if babies have been lost or if there is a history of failed IVF. I have to guess from behaviour and tearfulness in class.
beachy I tend to book premier inns if I travel for work. The cost is just recoverable within allowable expenses of the organisation I teach for. I find it a more comfortable experience that travelodge. Although no hotel however posh helps with meno hot sweats..
BTM fingers crossed for your DD
I am having a domestic day and have a major festival to prepare for on Thursday. I am gobsmacked by the amount of cooking I'm going to have to do....large gathering for lunch. I wonder when I'm going to have my little cry in the corner of the kitchen. I always do when there's a big family meal to cater for. My DM revealed recently that she always had a bit of a cry when she used to do these huge meals ( it was always her, her brothers and sisters in law never invited us.....and I remember my grandmothers sitting at the kitchen table watching and criticising but not helping her much...)

Having a little cry being an integral part of cooking a big family meal does not strike me as right, Rose.

Right. Off to drag DS to school nurse for eye stuff. Am bribing him with swimming afterwards. This could escalate to Minecraft or cinema trip, depending on recalcitrance levels.

I love cooking big family meals with others - not alone. DM on the other hand is a major control freak in the kitchen, puts on her opera and shuts the door.

Have had big conversation with DD1 about the fact that she will be financing ski trip and that we cannot be expected to help with uni plus pay for fancy holidays. Guess what - she's not going any more - boyfriend will come to Paris after spending Christmas with his family. (mutters - it's alright for him as Dutch university is free!).

DD2 has a streaming cold and I am avoiding her as I cannot sneeze with stitches in my mouth.

I like cooking with other people but Mr Inferior hates it. Actually he hates anyone else being in the kitchen at all while he is cooking which is a bit of a problem as we have kitchen/diner.

I am a bit like Mr Inferior especially when it is Mr TillyMint who is hovering behind me uselessly! I am happy to cook with my BFF though and I can cope with the DC in small doses
And if anyone turned opera on whilst I was in the kitchen....

Hatty, result!

Hugs to Auriga, and Crem - I cannot even imagine your pain. I have a friend in her 70s who still speaks occasionally of losing her babies so I am pretty certain that the pain never goes away.

OPM, I had a knee replacement almost four years ago (probably necessary because of all the jogging and badminton I used to do). My only tip to your DH would be to make sure that he religiously does the exercises afterwards. I think I have a pretty high pain threshold because after the op I had several bouts of stomach problems which we put down to all the painkillers I was taking having upset me. I just stopped taking the tablets after about ten days. The one thing I didn't like was injecting my stomach but I am not sure if you do that for hips. (It turned out stomach problems were actually gall stones! ).

It's raining here and, to me, very cold at 14 degrees C. It was 100 degrees F in Arizona.

I like cooking with other people, but only if they are Doing It Right. Otherwise I have to interfere and possibly spoil the lovely communal atmosphere.

Got DS to nursey, who drew up care plan. So we are GO for starting on Thursday! As we went to pick him up from current school, one of the nice senior teachers was saying it was a shame we're leaving, etc, just as Sam's on the school council, etc... And I said to DP 'You see? This is what it's like, everyday. People being nice and making me feel guilty.' He told me off for letting other people get to me, which made the tears spill over. It's been so emotionally hard, and he hasn't had to do any of the dealing with people bit.

Nursey was running so late that we couldn't go swimming in the end, so the only bribery needed was a sweetie bracelet. So don't worry MI - he won't be getting a sports car for merely getting his shoes on next week...

I too have lost many babies, and it's a scar that doesn't really heal. Most of the time it's skinned over, but it re-opens occasionally with pregnant women or unhelpful bitches in the school yard asking why DS doesn't have a sibling.

Herbs, just keep going for Thursday. It is tough, you poor love, and DP Does Not Understand; but you know how grim it has been to date.

Herbs, great news on the school front. Shame your DP didn't step up and face the music himself.

for you about lost babies.

Oh Herbs. You are doing so brilliantly. Not surprised about the weeping. It massive relief , that's all. And knowing ds will finally be OK.

Erm, I'm not wearing the yellow tights with the red coat probably wouldn't be posting on a S&B thread if I was.

Thanks for the words of sympathy folks. It was a long time ago, and the very reason I joined mumsnet.

Hatty- that worked a treat btw. Respect.