' Fashion' language

[Mendi]

Flicking through Grazia which arrived today because my ex-boyfriend has clearly not realised he's still paying the subscription which just renewed.

WTF is 'a knit'? Is it a jumper? A cardi? A sleeveless top? Or is the only thing that matters the fact that it was 'a Celine knit'?

While I'm on the subject, what is 'a trouser'?? Just one leg?

[lashingsofbingeinghere]

Bit off topic but,
I still love this withering put down by Meryl/Miranda in The Devil Wears Prada when assistant Andy fails to get the point about fashion.

"You think this (fashion) has nothing to do with you. You go to your closet and you select... I don't know... that lumpy blue sweater, for instance because you're trying to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously to care about what you put on your back.
"But what you don't know is that that sweater is not just blue, it's not turquoise. It's not lapis. It's actually cerulean. And you're also blithely unaware of the fact that in 2002, Oscar de la Renta did a collection of cerulean gowns. And then I think it was Yves Saint Laurent... wasn't it who showed cerulean military jackets? I think we need a jacket here. And then cerulean quickly showed up in the collections of eight different designers. And then it, uh, filtered down through the department stores and then trickled on down into some tragic Casual Corner where you, no doubt, fished it out of some clearance bin.
"However, that blue represents millions of dollars and countless jobs and it's sort of comical how you think that you've made a choice that exempts you from the fashion industry when, in fact, you're wearing the sweater that was selected for you by the people in this room from a pile of stuff."

[MorrisZapp]

JumpHerWho, how do you think Grazia should handle the Rhianna/ Chris Brown story?

[JumpHerWho]

Emaili from NaP, title is:

'Edit: Season-defining trends and game-changing pieces'

Morris - I'd like to see them focusing on the stats of how few women leave their violent partners for good. I'd like less 'why has she done this' and more 'why do men do this'. I'd like it to treat her as a fellow female in a bad situation, not judging her every move. It's not hard to do, but no one else in the (mainstream) media does it so I'm not surprised by their tack. By focusing on her response so much more than what was done to her, it becomes victim blaming.

[Ruk898]

"A slick of red" what are we putting on our lips engine oil??! And when papers talk about slebs being "dressed down" aka wearing clothes and "glitzing up the look" with a statement something.

I am 37 weeks pg so rocking whatever fits and keeps me warm with key pieces taken from my laundry.

[MoodyDidIt]

i also hate the "off duty model look"

i mean , WTF does that even mean ?? a model not at work? well why not, just, ANYONE not at work

[freddiemed]

"On trend" is the worst. Followed by that "pop of colour".

[LadyBigtoes]

JumpHer, I think we'd really need to chew the fat all evening over lots of wine and old copies of grazia.

You're right, some things should be beyond discussion, a la birgitte Nyborg's excellent response to the questioning of her role as a female pm. But I think the - admittedly not super-sophisticated - feminism in grazia works by just raising the equality issue wherever it may pop up. I don't think it's wrong to say "hmm, look at this sexist claptrap, what if it was the other way round, it's ok for a man to do it so we say it's ok for a woman." in fact that basic litmus test - to ask what if men were in this situation, would they betteed the same? - is a good one to live by as a feminist.

Re Chris and rihanna, what i see is grazia reminding us every single time they write about it exactly what he did to her. When they publish a headline like "oh no rihanna, don't have him back!" what's wrong with that? That's what I as a feminist would say to a female friend in her position. No one is responsible for dv against them, but people (mainly but not always women) do put up with it and the message that they shouldn't put up with it is an important one surely?

Yes, it's also essential to turn the focus on men and ask why they commit rape, dv etc. but grazia is aimed at women...

[LadyBigtoes]

Betteed - I meant "be treated" stupid iPad.

[Brassica]

For me the one that makes me get a bit stabby is how waists have to be "cinched in" with a belt. Every Single Time.

And where is it decreed that any article about makeup must be accompanied by pictures of crumbled eyeshadow, smears of eyeliner and broken lipstick?

[NotQuitePerfect]

Yes I hadn't thought about the broken lipsticks being ubiquitous Brassica - you're absolutely right. What a bloody waste!

[Oblomov]

I too thought that AW13 was a postcode. I shall give up now.

[headinhands]

Haven't read the thread but the phrase 'on trend' makes me want to disembowel myself with a rusty screwdriver

[thatsnotmynamereally]

head I just love 'bang on trend' wtf??

[thatsnotmynamereally]

AW13 postcode. Love it!

[Southender]

I hate people saying "bang on trend" too. Even though it was the lovely Gok who started it off.

[Fillyjonk75]

I thought until recently that Boden made kitchen equipment (Bodum) which has led to some, er...confusing conversations. Also an acquaintance at book club was going on about "getting a Mulberry" (handbag as it turned out) and fortunately I didn't join in the conversation as I wondered if it was something like a BlackBerry, Apple, or Raspberry Pi? :)

[ceeveebee]

Yey we made the talk roundup! First time for me

[NotYouNaanBread]

I work in the interiors industry & it's just as bad, but brilliantly satirised on Fuck Your Noguchi Coffee Table (can't link on my phone, sorry!)

[StroppyPoppy]

I never understood the term 'colour block'. How was that a trend?

Surely it's just wearing a plain coloured top/skirt/ whatever?

[Minimammoth]

I am heaving with laughing about the 'distressed yoga pant', yeh mine are so distressed they need counselling, mostly 'cos they have my huge bum in 'em.

[Minimammoth]

And exactly how is grey/ brown/purple navy the new black? And what is the point of Alexa, does she do anything?

[garlicbreeze]

Heh, there are no answers on this thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sleb_twaddle/a1399488-what-does-alexa-chung-do-exactly

According to Wikipedia she's a part-time fashion journalist, TV presenter and model. I wonder when somebody will put up a page about me? I'm a part-time Mumsnetter, Facebooker and time-waster. Instead of coltish limbs, I sport buffaloish legs. When Mulberry names a product after me it'll be the Sack.

[ClaraOswinOswald]

Is it peh-plum or pee-plum and what the bloody hell is that supposed to mean anyway??!!

[KarlosKKrinkelbeim]

The obvious response to Meryl/Miranda's "put down" is "so fucking what." choosing sweaters for people isn't power. It's just choosing sweaters. i do it for my kids every day. Only morons think this is matters. I like to look nice as much as anyone, but "fashion people" thinking they're important make me laugh.