will we EVER rid the concept of a TUNIC from S&B?

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no its none of my business
no there is still world poverty to worry about

etcetc

BUT STOP WITH TH TUNICS FFS

I never use 'mumsy' but do sometimes use 'frumpy', 'unstylish' - about clothes, not people.
Not all long tops are tent-like but some are. I go to some effort to avoid those!

Fashion and feminism wow! I would love to read that.Fashion history is essentially a history of women's role in society. In fact a lot of fashion is anthropology and is not at all shallow, it just seems to have been hijacked by slabs and wags and the real creativity of say the 50's couturiers has been lost.

Great post, Curtsey.

Oooh! Mumsnet HQ: Majority tunics and a celebrity waterfall!

(Still catching up on thread, this was Olivia's link on p.14)

Ostandconfused, you may have a point.

I think tunics and leggings suit me ( tall, long legs) and it looks nicer than jeans and a jumper, but not as nice as a dress and boots.

I have a badass leather jeacket, fitted and short which looks really good but I NEVER wear it, as I imagine people will think " look at her, she thinks she is all that! Can't she see she is much too old and unstylish to pull that off".

I do wear lots of taylored coats though, and my dear friends say I often look "elegant" or even "glamorous" which is nice, but also makes me think I am somehow too into my looks...

It is funny that I care what others think! I should not.

I should get that lovely buttersoft leather jacket out and just wear it on the schoolrun and deal with the "oooooh look at you" comments..

Should I?

I reckon a lot of this uniformstyle of dressing is to fit in with yoir surroundings, and your peers. It takes a bit of nerve to stand out at the school run!

p.15 - Hully's question: Can one be "fashionable" and enjoy clothes WITHOUT sneering at those that don't?

I love this question! I used to work in fashion (yes, I'm now fat and probably 'mumsy'.)

Whilst wearing fashion that was so cutting-edge it hadn't even made it into 'fashion' yet, I did not judge those who hadn't a clue why I was wearing what I wore ... and, as a genuine fashion maven, would judge their style on whether it worked for the wearer personally, in their personal context. You know those street style snapshots all the fashion mags do? They're not interested in whether the wearer has correctly interpreted the season's design vernacular; they're celebrating individuals' joyous personal style.

There is, on the other hand, a sizeable layer of fashion aficionados who judge everybody else. These people spend lots of money each season, on clothes & accessories that mark them out as 'fashionable' to other people like themselves. Hilariously, those people would judge my looks most adversely because they were too sheep-like to realise they'd be spending all of next season's wages on watered-down versions of what I was in. And they were BORING so I judged them They believe there's a right and a wrong to style and they believe they have special access to the rules. They are mistaken.

I still judge people like that, btw ...

Chandon - yes OF COURSE you should wear your jacket!!!

Yes Chandon wear the jacket.

I wear primark skinny jeans with primark vests, with a primark cardigan. I have primark pumps and leggings.

Not in fashion but who actually cares about fashion? Fashion won't keep me warm!

Well said, lostconfused!

Just because somebody me doesn't like tunics, fleeces, flowery tops, bootleg jeans doesn't make me them sneery.

Unless they are actually sneering.

Can't people have an opinion anymore? You don't have to voice it but you can think what you want. Can't you?

Or is this not allowed now.

Chandon wear the jacket! With priiiiide

I'm rocking these over tights this season F**k tunics.

Wondering if I am the only one in thinking like this, can you tell me?

Eg, I think if I wear my cool leather jacket, which is a bit sexy, and a dress and nice boots AND wear my long hair down AND wear a bit of make up...I fear I look like I am trying too hard? That I ought to tone down my inner diva (i have one!).

That people think I am on the pull or something?

I get comments, nice ones though, whenever I wear my hair down, or wear a tiny bit of make up ( don t do full slap, too lazy) or wear something new and funky/sexy. Comments I get, like " you look very glam with your hair, you must take ages styling it" or " aWhy are you dressed like that? Are you going somewhere nice?" or "you always are so elegant, you are putting us all to shame". I feel some of these comments are actually meant to put me in my place.

In a tunic and uggs wity my hair scraped back, nobody comments. It makes me invisible which can be nice.

I'm the same as you Chandon. Me and DP are very boring these days and our social life isn't exactly exciting. I have to force myself to wear nice clothes and make an effort, because I often think what's the point in bothering.

Also, I'm self employed and based at home, I don't even have the excuse of needing to wear something nice for work.

I end up feeling silly when I make an effort. Saying that, I'm wearing my tweed trousers and a nice jumper today.

You need more positive friends, Chandon.

To quote Marianne Williamson, "There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine."

Wear it! I never care what people think about what I wear. I used to be in the fashion industry too. If the school run don't like it that's their problem, not yours!

Love the quote garlic.

Chandon I totally get what you mean. Those comments are perhaps meant to put you in your place, not nec because the person doesn't like you or has a properly articulate argument against you looking good, but because they might be insecure about their looks and grooming and feel that you looking good somehow makes them look worse.
this is exactly what I meant by an "unthreatening" look: things called "fun" often do this too. The message is "don't hate me, I am clean and have something notionally new to show respect for my community by not wearing a jumper pulled out of the dog basket, but I in no way think of myself as important or deserving of any particular admiration or perhaps even respect"

Lol

You're STILL GOING!

Ohhhhh this thread is responsible for much hand-wringing. See link for AIBU thread it spawned. THERE ARE DELETIONS

WE WILL NEVER GIVE IN

Hully STAND DOWN :o

Never.

Don't know the meaning of those words.

With that sort of attitude we'd still be on the beaches, m'dear.

Not even you can liken tunics to WW2! ILY Hully you mad fruit