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bought a fake handbag, now worried in case i have been ripped off

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MistyRocks · 26/06/2012 16:51

I am probably risking a flaming for admitting to buying fake replica bags but i do so shoot me ;) Blush

i have hopefully this beauty [Link deleted by Mumsnet]

if anyone else is willing to admit it too, have you used this site? are they genuine?

i paid by western union as you can't pay directly through the website. this seems to be the case with most replica handbag sites but the one i usually order from you can pay via the website. i didn't use my usual one as they don't stock "chanel"

but i made the payment about 10am this morning and haven't heard anything from them yet Confused so am now panicking....although haven't yet received confirmation from western union that the money has been collected.

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FormerlyTitledUntidy · 02/07/2012 11:52

You do know you are contributing to criminalality don't you? Where little kids are exploited, to make someone else very very well off. :(
I hope your handbag makes you very happy.

AmberNectarine · 02/07/2012 11:54

Yes, because if it's just the look of the bag you like, Russell and Bromley make nice quilted, chain-strap bags. I don't understand the allure of carrying a fake either.

MrsBovary · 02/07/2012 11:58

Agreeing with Hiviolet. And also wondering if you'll attempt to pretend it is real.

Chandon · 02/07/2012 13:47

I once had a fake Mulberry bag.

Bought it in a Bangkok shop (quite a famous one).

And I had never, for a moment, thought about child labour. It is odd how some posters have ignored these posts about child labour.

At the time, I guess I hoped people would see me with my bag and think: " She has good taste", also the bargain was irresistible...I guess that is why people want fakes?

Anyway, I have grown up Wink and would not buy one again. I feel a bit embarrassed about it now (still have it and use it sometimes, it was a good quality fake)

MistyRocks · 02/07/2012 15:11

jas and goontim

will post pics on here when it comes for those who are interested..... ;)

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FormerlyTitledUntidy · 02/07/2012 15:15

Misty, why have you not responded to posts about child labour and criminalities? Do you not want to know or do you just not care? Are you going to pass the bag off as a real one or tell people it's a fake?
I can't understand how you're just ignoring them?

MrsBovary · 02/07/2012 15:46

I can't understand why she's ignoring either. Perhaps she's too excited about the prospect of receiving her over-priced fake bag. Hmm

thisisyesterday · 02/07/2012 15:50

are you actually serious?

you've spent hundreds of pounds on a counterfeit handbag from a company that lies on custom slips and the only thing you're worried about is if you've been ripped off???

ffs

i hope customs DO find it and destroy it.

Pinot · 02/07/2012 15:54

OP probably doesn't want a bunfight.

It's a personal decision and I respect that, so I keep my sticky beak out of the morals of it.

Pinot · 02/07/2012 15:56

On and I'm on ere earlier as GoOnTim, in the interests of open-ness. I changed back from my Wimblybum name earlier.

DonaAna · 02/07/2012 16:01

Legitimate Chanel bags are also sometimes made in airless warehouses in the slums of Naples by Chinese immigrants living in semi-slavery. The same sweatshops often make both legitimate and counterfeit items.

One of the common ways of offloading counterfeit items is selling them to unsuspecting boutiques or outlets overseas. But really the line between counterfeit and legitimate can sometimes be very blurred.

Italy has a special section of police force dedicated to keeping track of counterfeit and smuggled goods, "Guardia di Finanza". If you'd like to know more, read Roberto Saviano's Gomorrah.

FormerlyTitledUntidy · 02/07/2012 16:03

But Pinot, OP could just have said "Yes, I do know, thanks." or "No, I didn't know, thanks for letting me know.". Ignoring something someone has adressed to you is rude.
It's great you respect her personal opinion so much, if only the people making these bags had as much choice.

Pinot · 02/07/2012 16:06

I totally get what you're saying, FTU.

Dona I didn't know the same factories are used. Like in amke-up, when L'Oreal and Lancome are owned by the same Company and use the same processes?

flowery · 02/07/2012 16:16

I've been following this thread and it's surreal! The OP and some others are talking about how marvellous the bags are and literally ignoring everyone else! Fair enough to thank for views, and say "I'm comfortable with my decision, or even "mind your own", but just posting as if none of the comments are there at all is a bit weird. Haven't seen that before.

MistyRocks · 02/07/2012 16:21

OP probably doesn't want a bunfight

^that

:)

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FormerlyTitledUntidy · 02/07/2012 16:23

But you said in your OP that you were expecting a flaming...Confused so why not even acknowledge what someone has said?

DonaAna · 02/07/2012 16:24

It's called outsourcing. The designers need to get new trendy items on the market fast, so they shop for subcontractors who can do the job as fast and as cheaply as possible. Lots of the subcontractors or sub-subcontractors are nameless sweatshops. Southern Italy is one of these places where a lot of this is happening (and Chinese immigrants are brought in to produce luxury items for slave wages so that the goods made by them can have a "Made in Italy" label). Organized crime is a big part of this. And yes, even Chanel was involved in some of these counterfeit scandals.

It may be that some Hermes Kelly bags really are sewn by skilled and valued artisans in a nice place somewhere in France. But most big-name labels have outsourced much of their production to low-cost countries. Many of the places where the production takes place are rife with corruption - if you pay off the customs official or factory owner, what is legitimate and what is not?

If you've ever travelled in China, you can also see that some of the brand name goods get "diverted" (stolen, resold etc) from legitimate factories and resold somewhere else. Are they real or not?

I have a Chanel 2.55 bought from a Chanel boutique and a few real Dior handbags. Yes, I have possibly been ripped off Grin

MistyRocks · 02/07/2012 16:25

see my last post before this one formerly :)

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FormerlyTitledUntidy · 02/07/2012 16:27

Ok. Sure as long as you're bag arrives and nobody upsets you it's all fine.

AmberNectarine · 02/07/2012 16:35

Well, they do say ignorance is bliss. OP, your life must be simply heavenly.

Chandon · 02/07/2012 16:36

Molinko, isgightful article. I'm copying and pasting for those who don't open links.

Open your eyes OP:

from the NY Times:

Most people think that buying an imitation handbag or wallet is harmless, a victimless crime. But the counterfeiting rackets are run by crime syndicates that also deal in narcotics, weapons, child prostitution, human trafficking and terrorism. Ronald K. Noble, the secretary general of Interpol, told the House of Representatives Committee on International Relations that profits from the sale of counterfeit goods have gone to groups associated with Hezbollah, the Shiite terrorist group, paramilitary organizations in Northern Ireland and FARC, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.

Sales of counterfeit T-shirts may have helped finance the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, according to the International AntiCounterfeiting Coalition. ?Profits from counterfeiting are one of the three main sources of income supporting international terrorism,? said Magnus Ranstorp, a terrorism expert at the University of St. Andrews, in Scotland.

Most fakes today are produced in China, a good many of them by children. Children are sometimes sold or sent off by their families to work in clandestine factories that produce counterfeit luxury goods. Many in the West consider this an urban myth. But I have seen it myself.

On a warm winter afternoon in Guangzhou, I accompanied Chinese police officers on a factory raid in a decrepit tenement. Inside, we found two dozen children, ages 8 to 13, gluing and sewing together fake luxury-brand handbags. The police confiscated everything, arrested the owner and sent the children out. Some punched their timecards, hoping to still get paid. (The average Chinese factory worker earns about $120 a month; the counterfeit factory worker earns half that or less.) As we made our way back to the police vans, the children threw bottles and cans at us. They were now jobless and, because the factory owner housed them, homeless. It was ?Oliver Twist? in the 21st century.

What can we do to stop this? Much like the war on drugs, the effort to protect luxury brands must go after the source: the counterfeit manufacturers. The company that took me on the Chinese raid is one of the only luxury-goods makers that works directly with Chinese authorities to shut down factories, and it has one of the lowest rates of counterfeiting.

Luxury brands also need to teach consumers that the traffic in fake goods has many victims. But most companies refuse to speak publicly about counterfeiting ? some won?t even authenticate questionable items for concerned customers ? believing, like Victorians, that acknowledging despicable actions tarnishes their sterling reputations.

So it comes down to us. If we stop knowingly buying fakes, the supply chain will dry up and counterfeiters will go out of business. The crime syndicates will have far less money to finance their illicit activities and their terrorist plots. And the children? They can go home.

Dana Thomas, a correspondent for Newsweek, is the author of ?Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster.?

MrsCampbellBlack · 02/07/2012 16:39

Have you never seen that episode of SATC where Carrie nearly buys a fake fendi?

I just don't get the allure of fakes especially such expensive ones for all the reasons outlined above.

LaurieFairyCake · 02/07/2012 16:44

I think what really stands out for me is that the legitimate companies also use some very dodgy practices and turn a blind eye to extremely low wages/possible slave labour.

It's a bit shit to say that 'poorer' people must have 'morals' to not buy the counterfeits but the 'rich' don't have to have them when they also exploit through capitalism Hmm

really? it's ok because it's 'good business practise' to exploit the poor in other countries? It's ok because it's 'capitalism innit' Confused

NONE of this is truly ok. Whether you drop 200 on a fake or 2k, someone gets fucked unless you buy a truly artisanal product.

Pinot · 02/07/2012 16:46

Samantha bought the fake fendi