Fillers, botox etc have you had any, if not why not?

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I had my lips done recently, it was cheap and effective and v painful, but no pain no gain right .
Genuine question, why don't more people have it done? Are you all happy with the way you look? I can't imagine not having something that i thought needed changing.

I suppose amelia that my idea of the benefits of having procedures is that I could continue to make little effort but still look fresh faced and lovely!

Not making an effort is definately my way!

It's not a moral issue for me at all, and you may be correct in your "over done" assertion Amelia, but once you start with this stuff, how/when does it stop? Something like a few fillers may look very subtle first time, but as you age further you need more and more. At what point do you say enough is enough? It's difficult enough aging naturally, ageing drastically in weeks, when you are say, 60 and stop getting the Botox/fillers you have been having for ten years or more, must be impossible to contemplate. Hence you end up looking like Goldie Hawn, who, lest we forget, can afford absolutely the best treatments available, unlike most people.

FWIW, I think even people who have had good work look slightly strange, maybe not to themselves in a mirror, but believe me, most other people will notice something being a bit "off".

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No way!!! I am going to grow old gracefully. I also have a feeling that people are placing their faith in something they know nothing about. Why on earth would you want to inject an unknown substance into your face FGS!

It wasn't that many years ago that advertisements were extolling the health benefits of smoking...

Who says one would need to stop at 60 though? The right level and skilful treatment with botox/fillers/peels can in some cases, negate the need for a face lift. As Amelia said, celebs like Goldie, Nicole Kidman, Joan Rivers, Janice Dickinson, Kylie et al, overdo it, or they want a very obvious look.

I look like myself-only fresher. My face has movement. It isn't shiny. I don't look permanantly surprised!! My DH didn't even know I had had it done at first-although he commented that my skin looked good-"more plumped" and wondered if I'd had a facial.

Nope. I'm sure it would make me look better and more wide awake/fresh etc etc, but I've got other things I'd rather spend money on.

I also think it's a little depressing that it wears off - so you get some stuff done and you look great, but it'll fade away and then what? Will you feel even worse about yourself? Is it a vicious circle? Will you eventually forget what you're "supposed" to look like?

Also, when it goes wrong it looks truly awful. It must be quite humiliating to have disfigured yourself in an attempt to look a bit younger.

No judgement on anyone who has fillers/botox whatever, but it's not for me. I hope I won't be judged for aging naturally, but I suspect as time goes on I will.

Thing is, no matter what ones face may be falsely saying with fillers etc, the neck, eyes and hands always give the game away, especially when you get much older.

Ok delicious...name just one person who simply looks so good for their age that they must have had work done, but you can't tell?

Ah, but now, fillers can be injected into the hands to plump the lines out. You can also have lazer treatment for lines and age spots. At the extreme end-fat transfer from thighs/tummy into the hands.

You're kind of reinforcing my "where does it stop?" argument delicious

In honesty, I don't really sleb follow....as I said upthread, many of them overdo it, from what I have seen in magazines/tv. I base my opinion on myself and women I know who have it, not the likes of Cher or Goldie!

I've never considered it - my one and only bikini wax was terminated early as I found it too painful. So no unnecessary needles for me.

Also I spent an unexpected £8.60 today and this is going to cause me serious financial problems this month so I couldn't foresee ever being able to afford it. I care more about increasing my pension provision than trying to prolong the visual part of my youth. My game plan is just to remove the mirrors from my house as I age - it'll be you lot that suffer looking at me.

Also, tbh, I am very plain, overweight and badly groomed/dressed. I would just be a very plain overweight badly dressed woman with slightly fewer facial lines. BFD.

My guess is that Susan Sarandon has had a LOT of work done but I am only guessing. I think she looks good on it.

It stops where one wants it to. Priorities/finances etc curtail most ordinary women-even those like myself, who have botox/peels a few times a year. Most are realistic enough to know you can't change everything. I see it as a "tweak" an enhancement. Not every woman wants or will look like, the Bride of Wildenstein!

Ok delicious but you can't seriously say that all those celebs that you so easily reel off have all gone to their surgeon/whoever and said "please give me lots of fillers so that I get that really overdone, slightly frozen/manic look please, it is just so attractive"

Isn't this getting well, a little over dramatic? from the " no I won't " crowd?

There are plenty of negative comments- all from people who don't want it done.

when you have something "done" you don't leave your brain outside the drs door. Most people are able to judge when they have had enough- and their cosmetic dr will guide them if they are any good.

I gave my dr a completely free rein to say what she thought I should have done- not that my budget would have stretched but I was curious. she suggested one thing only- which I was thinking about myself. I went back after 6 weeks to assess the work and she agreed it didn't need any more.

I have said this already but some people are not reading- the fillers are a natural product already found in your body. They are not a foreign substance and they are not a poison. Botox is- yes.

No one knows I have had my face done- except people I choose to tell- which is 1 close friend, my mum and DH.

I did a lot of research beforehand and chose my dr very carefully- I certainly would not let a beautician or similar near my face.

well exactly - if those slebs with all the money and experts at their disposal still look awful why on earth do you think you'll be okay and 'natural' looking?
how 'natural' it looks depends on how old you are to start with IMHO, so stands to reason that the longer you have it for the more weird you'll look (eventually) As someone upthread says, are you going to suddenly stop having it when you're say 50 or 60? thats why people end up looking weird it's common sense.
people like goldie hawn would look far more beautiful ageing gracefully with a few wrinkles I think

To be fair though, celebs and the ultra-rich tend to be early adopters of cosmetic procedures.

It's the best money can buy at the time but as procedures are refined and improved the look tends to get more natural/has fewer cumulative side affects.

Unfortunately for the early adopters, what seemed like the "best" at the time is permanently on display. Face lifts are much better now than when Joan Rivers started going under the knife, but she's stuck with the old version.

Fillers are probably better now too. I don't know if Lesley Ash would have had her awful trout pout if she'd gone for some lip plumping today.

Its a fact that accidents with it and trout pouts and so on still go on today.
I had a friend where something went wrong with a cosmetic proceedure in her face couple of years ago, wouldn't touch it with a bargepole myself

I am genuinely appalled that someone of 25 would feel the need to have Botox! That is seriously fucked up, IMO. Why on earth would someone young want to do that to themselves?

OK hands can be sorted, but what about the eyes delicious? Kylie, Madonna and Nicole Kidman all have normal slightly bloodshot eyes for their age, the whites are not white like a younger persons.. they look wrong with plumped up cheeks and line free foreheads IMO.

I like ordinary faces. The brain is quite good at adding up all the clues to someone's age and it feels odd when the clues don't quite match.

Having said that, if ds or myself had bad acne I would do practically anything to sort that out, also I am saving for ds to have orthodontistry in 5 years or so if he needs it.

Well.......I'd definitely be happy to look like Nicole Kidman at her age!