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How do I use my GHD's to make loose waves?

101 replies

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 15/06/2011 13:24

I have tried and failed.

My hair length isn't the problem, I just don't have the knack.

Any tips appreciated.

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TattyDevine · 19/06/2011 17:37

How did you get on Duchess? Any luck?

Anyone else?

Hope everyone is admiring their glossy waves in the mirror Grin

KateMiddletonsMum · 19/06/2011 18:10

Can't do it :(

I've been trying for 3 days now

I've been doing the ghd's up to the top of the hair, turn the crocodile inwards 180 degrees and also tried outwards. I'm just getting dreadlocks!!

TattyDevine · 19/06/2011 18:15

We need a video, KateMiddletonsMum.

Record yourself spannering it and I'll tell you where you are going wrong Grin ?

Really hard to know what's going wrong without seeing to be honest. Maybe there is dogey hair that just won't do as its told no matter what?

What is your hair texture like?

AchtungBaby · 19/06/2011 19:17

Well, my sister curled my hair last night, and it was quite nice Smile. I'd probably like the curls to start a bit higher up, so I'm going to try later tonight...

KateMiddletonsMum · 19/06/2011 20:27

Tatty I'd have to change my name and pixellate my face Wink but I do have hair that frizzes in humidity, gets greasy on top quickly, is very dense, takes about 1/2 hr to blow dry. Curls don't stay in, although they did when I had it curled with the same ghd's at the hairdresser, grrrrr!! Wink

blue2711 · 19/06/2011 20:38

I'm back with more questions I'm afraid, Tatty! (Does anyone else think there should be a special Tatty hair advice thread?)

  1. Re. the GHD waves. I'm pretty good at them, but want some advice on what hairspray (if any) you use? If I use nothing then they drop quite quickly but if I use Elnett (the Cheryl Cole) one, it feels quite stiff... and kind of old ladyish.

  2. Re. the highlights. Constant quest for blonde and streaky = constant disappointment. Am naturally mousy brown. Have mixture of blonde and light brown streaks but seem to veer from too block blonde to not blonde enough. Never know quite what to ask for. The current look is disappointingly dingy; too many dark streaks so from a distance it barely looks blonde at all. Pondering whether to try the John Frieda blonde spray thing that promises to ramp up the blonde factor??? Any suggestions?

Thank you!

TattyDevine · 19/06/2011 20:52

I've stopped using hairspray, as I agree it makes it feel crispy (I've got the Cheryl one too) and whilst I use it after a blowdry or on my roots if I've used the Babyliss Root Boost, I don't use it for my everyday waves. I find it makes the waves "messy" after sleeping on them if they've been sprayed, whereas if I haven't then they say soft and well formed and if they get a little messy a light brushing reforms them (sometimes I will re do the topmost layer)

I suggest you keep trying various brands till you find one that suits. I think there's always a temptation to buy "firm hold" because you feel you are getting more hold for your money but perhaps a light hold one will do enough without turning you crispy.

Your highlights. I think the problem is, in order to stop the block blonde effect we have the lowlights, but it all just becomes a bit pointless after a while.

I suggest to achieve that lovely streaky root to tip look is you start from scratch. Dye your hair a dark ash blonde (do a strand test first - you don't want to go too dark nor do you want to lighten your base colour - just achieve a good natural similar to your real hair base) - so you are "starting again". Don't be tempted to go too dark, nothing "brown" if you have been bleached, but Dark Ash blonde or even Beige Blonde should be fine. Book yourself in for a full head of bleach highlights, and do the "redying" the night before or a few days before if you can bear it and are confident you wont hate the block colour for a few days. Then have your full head of highlights. They should be lovely and streaky looking from root to tip, very pleasing on the eye, because the streak starts at the root and goes all the way down, breaking up the base colour. Then buy a purple shampoo like the Lee Stafford Bleach Blonde one and use that occasionally to really "bring out" your highlights.

The next time they need doing, have a half head. Try not to be greedy and get them done too soon, the more often you do them the more they start to join up and you start having brown put back in and it all goes a bit mish mash.

But you could probably "start again" twice a year, once in the summer and once before Christmas, where you dye yourself back to your base colour and have a full head, to achieve that root to tip streaky highlight look. You might find your hairdresser is a little adverse to this because they wont want you to start getting involved, but it sounds like you are not happy anyway - maybe a change of hairdresser.

But I basically did this myself in the spring, I had gone light ash brown, and had a full head of bleach foils, and it achieved a really nice stripey streaky effect. Tell your hairdresser that you want to be quite blonde and that you want the highlights to be bleach and that you want that streaky effect - communication is key, as some people want really fine undetectable highlights and others want a nice streaky look.

blue2711 · 19/06/2011 21:07

Thank you so much, Tatty. Great advice. No time now but will post again soon. Just not sure if I'm brave enough to dye my hair myself! Haven't done that since I was 18 and it didn't work out so well..

But you've hit the nail on the head about the look I want - which my hairdresser never seems to do. Even though she's so nice! Aargh! In fact, I don't think she likes the streaky look and insists on giving me fine highlights instead, even when I don't ask for them. V annoying!

Must go - will let you know how I get on. Thanks again.

KateMiddletonsMum · 19/06/2011 21:40

Tatty I think we need lots of pictures of your hair before and after and during all your experiments! I don't dare dye mine beige blonde or ash blonde cos it will guaranteed go khaki.
I have loads of red in my hair so any hint of gold in my highlights give me sodding orange hair. And if I get ash blonde highlights I look grey and khaki!
So I was thinking about embracing the red, do I dare!?
I'll try to put the pic I like on my profile :)

ThePathanKhansWoman · 19/06/2011 21:48

tatty and other divines, can i ask, my hair is really thick frizzy, it straightens lovely with the GHDs, if i wanted the loose curls, would i straighten first, then do the 'tatty' move?? Sorry op for hi-jacking.Many thanks.

TattyDevine · 19/06/2011 21:48

I think the reason I don't have disasters is that I strand test. I do, however, have a library of unused dyes with 1 teaspoon missing from the colour and developer bottles, never to be used!!! I should have a warehouse sale at my gaffe Grin

If you have bleached blonde hair, you should be able to use any of the "blonde" colours from the semi and permenant ranges. You have to be a little careful with the ashes, a "natural" is often better as it will have both warm and cool tones to make the full range.

I would have thought neutral blonde highlights (either done with a high lift tint or just good old bleach) and a purple shampoo (Lee Stafford or Aveda blue malva) to neutralise your gold cast and bring them out would give you a nice effect. Sometimes ash is too much the other way.

That said, been delving a lot into seasonal colour analysis of late (and am getting draped on the weekend - "getting my colours done" Grin and if you are naturally "warm" with lots of red in your hair naturally, you should embrace it and just go with it. It might be that you just need to adjust your makeup or something in order to "like" it properly.

But a naturally "gold" person will look good with a Jennifer Aniston type blonde, the honey golden tones and not too light...its a lovely type of fair to go I think.

TattyDevine · 19/06/2011 21:51

ThePathons this is something I don't really have experience of, because my hair is so "well behaved", I can only assume you should try it and see, I guess...at least you know if you do want loose curls and you can't do it in one move, you can straighten it first then do it. In theory, GHD's are so hot and such clever things I would have thought it would straighten and curl in one, if you look at the angle the hair is going through, it is sort of being straightened, but with a weird kink which is what gives the curl.

Give it a go! Do it without straightening first, then do it one day after you've straightened...and report back! It might be easier to straighten first when you are getting to grips with the move, but once you are an expert you might find you can do it in "one move"...

ThePathanKhansWoman · 19/06/2011 22:06

Thankyou tatty i will give it a bash, the video is fantastic, you are queen of the GHDs will tell everyone about the tattymoveSmile.

Leavingonajetplan · 23/06/2011 13:39

Hello Tatty so glad I found this thread. I brought my GHDs into work, we've got an awards ceremony this evening and I want to curl my hair. Just wondering in that GHD video they lady has the larger irons, I've got the smaller ones and my hair is long, plus they are quite old ones, would you recommend larger ones for longer hair?

TattyDevine · 23/06/2011 13:55

Nope, you don't need the big ones, I have the regular ones and long hair and they work fine. Let us know how you get on! The only thing I would say about old ones if you do this regularly is the cord ends up getting twisted if they don't have a swivel cord - my old ones didn't and after a while they were a mess! Grin

Leavingonajetplan · 23/06/2011 14:57

Thanks tatty my colleague here reckons the bigger ones arent' so good except if you have afro/very thick hair. I have the old pink Breakthrough irons from circa 2003. I'm going to try that loose girls video you linked to, will let you know how I get on.I think it's a case of practice isn't it?

Leavingonajetplan · 23/06/2011 14:57

loose curls not girls!

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jamaisjedors · 23/06/2011 15:38

Hmm, I need to watch the video a bit more or something because I'm not managing - but bear in mind I had never used straighteners or a curling iron before!

Some of them come out fine, others are a bit "square" looking at the roots.

TattyDevine · 23/06/2011 16:44

Ok if you are getting some that are coming out fine then its just a case of practice, practice!

Well done!

OhSodItAll · 26/06/2011 10:23

I can't do it!!!! wails
It look so easy! Is there one tip above all others to make it work??

neuroticmumof3 · 26/06/2011 21:09

I just tried and nearly got it to work but I think my hair is a bit too short and too layered for it to work properly. I have just bought some GHD Remedy Creme in the hope of getting hair as shiny as Tatty's.

GnocchiGnocchiWhosThere · 26/06/2011 23:40

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GeetTallBird · 30/06/2011 08:12

Tatty you've recommended CurlStyler on another thread....our GHD queen has left us for another

TattyDevine · 30/06/2011 11:30

Not at all, I doubt I'll ever use another method for loose waves/curls, nothing holds on my hair the way GHD's do and its so quick I wouldn't want to have to spend more time. I can do it in under 10 minutes.

Babyliss Root Boost? Yes, have one, love it, use it for nights out but not for everyday. Gives significant, noticable and lasting root lift and is easy to use.

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