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Neighbour's nasty habit and neglect

105 replies

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 15:32

Every day my neighbour puts her crying baby and toddler into her car, shuts the doors and smokes a miserable cigarette outside before getting in the car and driving off. When she returns she does the same in reverse, while the kids stay in the car, screaming. There's no garden, just a path up to the house.

We are not friends and I don’t particularly want to speak to her directly (she's a bit scary), but it’s really sad to hear the kids suffering while they are stuck in the car, especially during this heatwave.

I want to help without making a scene. Any advice?

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Jackanackanory · 12/07/2022 18:16

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:09

Yeah, I won't be doing that

So how would you go about helping her give up smoking, then? You’re not friends with her, you’ve said she’s scary so you don’t want to speak to her directly, so how would you give her unsolicited advice? Genuine question.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 12/07/2022 18:22

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:09

It's more like 10-20 fags a day, and for sure I am not going to stick my hooter anywhere, but I might surreptitiously post a few "How to quit smoking" leaflets thru the door because the real issue is the addiction creating a situation which, while not 'neglect' in legal terms, is still neglectful and distressing

So she puts the kids in the car 20 times a day? Just to have a fag?

FortonServices · 12/07/2022 18:23

So basically you hate smoking and think it should be banned? Tough shit. Stop being such a nosy, self righteous neighbour.

CuriousCatfish · 12/07/2022 18:25

So the neighbour goes out in the car 20 times a day? You said in your OP it's when she goes out in the car.

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:27

MajorCarolDanvers · 12/07/2022 18:04

@RubyRed1993

It is neglect. Maybe not in the eyes of the law.
But I'm thinking more about helping her to quit smoking, somehow, hence choosing this section of Mumsnet

Mumsnet, by the way, richly deserves its reputation of being a good place to wind up the rubes. Kudos to those who ask further questions, but everyone else who just replies with "MYOB" should take their own advice once step further and STFU

In future please include a statement in your OP that you only welcome replies from people who agree with you and tell you what you want to hear.

As for helping her to stop smoking - its very difficult to stop smoking. 'Help' from a judgemental next door neighbour whose starting point is insisting its 'neglect' has a low probability of success

Yes, it's difficult to stop smoking AND it's also neglectful to leave a child in distress totally unnecessarily. That makes me judgemental? Any other information about my relationship with this neighbour is extraneous to the two issues I have highlighted. It's a ridiculous thing to justify strapping children down in order to find time to feed an addiction AND not even get any peace from it because they are screaming. Get real

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RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:28

CuriousCatfish · 12/07/2022 18:25

So the neighbour goes out in the car 20 times a day? You said in your OP it's when she goes out in the car.

Yes.

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RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:29

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:28

Yes.

Well maybe 10-20 times a day. I could count the fag-ends but I'd really be called nosy then 😁

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RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:30

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 12/07/2022 18:22

So she puts the kids in the car 20 times a day? Just to have a fag?

I would say up to 10 times a day... one fag before driving and another on return

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CuriousCatfish · 12/07/2022 18:30

I'd be more nosy about where she goes 20 times a day.

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:32

FortonServices · 12/07/2022 18:23

So basically you hate smoking and think it should be banned? Tough shit. Stop being such a nosy, self righteous neighbour.

I hate smoking and it should be banned, and if it's nosy to be concerned about children screaming and overheating, well I'll take that

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RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:32

CuriousCatfish · 12/07/2022 18:30

I'd be more nosy about where she goes 20 times a day.

I won't be asking 😁

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 12/07/2022 18:34

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:30

I would say up to 10 times a day... one fag before driving and another on return

Yeah. I call bullshit

olympicsrock · 12/07/2022 18:39

Plenty of kids hate being restrained in the car . Doesn’t mean we should all stop using our cars.
another MYOB

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:39

Jackanackanory · 12/07/2022 18:16

So how would you go about helping her give up smoking, then? You’re not friends with her, you’ve said she’s scary so you don’t want to speak to her directly, so how would you give her unsolicited advice? Genuine question.

IDK... I thought someone here might have some experience of that... like with helping a grumpy relative quit smoking by leaving 'How to quit smoking' leaflets or nicotine gum around the house... obviously, I can't do that, but maybe someone has some similarly passive and non-confrontational ideas

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Alliswells · 12/07/2022 18:41

Op why did you post and ask only to then tell posters to stfu???

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:41

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 12/07/2022 18:34

Yeah. I call bullshit

Fine... see ya

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RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:45

Alliswells · 12/07/2022 18:41

Op why did you post and ask only to then tell posters to stfu???

I didn't. I started a conversation and got some useless replies from some people.. they can totally STFU. If anyone else wants to stick around and converse, great. That's the point of starting a thread.

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darlingcellar · 12/07/2022 18:46

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 17:54

It is neglect. Maybe not in the eyes of the law.
But I'm thinking more about helping her to quit smoking, somehow, hence choosing this section of Mumsnet

Mumsnet, by the way, richly deserves its reputation of being a good place to wind up the rubes. Kudos to those who ask further questions, but everyone else who just replies with "MYOB" should take their own advice once step further and STFU.

Please, you don't give a fuck about helping this woman.

Schmz · 12/07/2022 18:47

OP I hear you
kids in distress
you see this multiple times a day and it’s upsetting
the mum sounds a right selfish tit

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:48

darlingcellar · 12/07/2022 18:46

Please, you don't give a fuck about helping this woman.

If you say so. I do give a fuck about the children tho

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Lesserspottedmama · 12/07/2022 18:52

I can imagine that must be distressingto hear OP. Poor babies. A sad sounding situation but not neglect on its own. Sounds like the mum might be struggling but likely she is doing the best she can at the moment. You definitely shouldn’t say anything to her.

ladydimitrescu · 12/07/2022 18:56

Do you have children op?

RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:57

Schmz · 12/07/2022 18:47

OP I hear you
kids in distress
you see this multiple times a day and it’s upsetting
the mum sounds a right selfish tit

Thank you for hearing me!
I'm not claiming to be the best parent in the world, but I've never left my children to cry. It does them harm

The thought of doing something that I know would make them cry -just to smoke cigarettes- that shit's effing alien to me

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RubyRed1993 · 12/07/2022 18:57

Lesserspottedmama · 12/07/2022 18:52

I can imagine that must be distressingto hear OP. Poor babies. A sad sounding situation but not neglect on its own. Sounds like the mum might be struggling but likely she is doing the best she can at the moment. You definitely shouldn’t say anything to her.

I definitely won't, thank you :)

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Bunty55 · 12/07/2022 18:59

I've read the thread and each time OP posts she says something more.. so I have decided I am 'out' on this one as it is unbelievable

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