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Holiday From Hell Or Is It Just Me Over-reacting Once Again?

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SadSam · 08/08/2005 11:04

Hi folks

I have just got back from what should have been a great holiday with DP, SS and SD. It was an absolute nightmare. Apart from the fact that the caravan was minging (and I mean minging, not worth even a quarter of the £600 we paid for it!) the kids were absolute horrors for what seemed like an awful lot of the time! Now bad behaviour I can accept occasionally, but when they are rude, disobedient and nasty, that I cannot tolerate! If I tried to tell them off (and I didnt very often as I dont believe it is my place to) then I got called "stupid fat cow" or similar, I had middle fingers stuck up at me and got hit or punched! SS got told off by staff several times, succeeded in tearing down some curtains in the entertainment lounge (despite being told several times by DP to stop), got caught jumping up and down on an asbestos roof and had to be told to stop by staff, was noisy and rude to staff in a restaurant embarrassing me imensely, kept hitting his little sister (6) for no reason and making her cry and miserable, answering back and sulking when he didnt get his own way and being rude to me and DP etc. etc. Now I know some people will be thinking well thats kids for you, but my main grouse is with DP as although he will initially tell him to stop, he is not hard enough and lets them get away with murder. He refuses to punish the children (dont get me wrong I dont believe in belting a child, but a quick smack on the bum or the back of the legs never did me any harm)! He lets them talk to me like crap.............. for example "get me a drink......... NOW" when I ask for a please they refuse and when I say its rude to speak like that I get a "so, I dont care"! DP will stick to his guns for a while and say "if you dont say please you wont get" and eventually they give in and say please. Then 10 mins later they go to DP and say "I want.........." with no please, and he gives them what they want?????? Is it me or is that mixed messages???? They have no respect for me or other people or peoples personal possessions. When they go to their grandparents (DP's parents) they jump on their (almost brand new) furniture (with their shoes on) and DP doesnt say anything. It is left to me to tell them to take their shoes off and stop jumping around and once again I am made to look like the evil stepmum! It is so unfair. I am made to look really bad as I am the only one who is prepared to discipline them at times making DP look good and me look bad. I have bit my lip so many times, but sometimes I just have to say something when they are being out of control and rude! I am by no means strict but if I was a mum then I do believe in being firm and teaching children to respect both people and possessions! This whole affair has now caused a huge rift with me and DP as he cant see that his children are "that" bad and has escalated into me feeling very bitter towards him and the children. It has dug up old feeling and wounds regarding us not having a child of our own. The holiday for me was hard enough as it is in as much as I had to spend a week with someone elses children, on a campsite surrounded by hundreds of other children with their mummys and daddys! I can only dream of having a holiday like that with a child of my own as there never seems to be a "right time" to have one of our own at the moment. If its not because the "kids are too young", then its because "the ex would turn kids against DP", or "we cant afford a kid of our own whilst we are paying CSA for his 3", or the house isnt big enough etc etc etc. So just when is the right time? Aaaaaaaaarghhhhhh I hate this sooooo much! My back is in a corner and I feel like a caged animal. I wouldnt even mind so much not having a child of my own if his kids would treat me with some respect and kindness once in a while, but I dont even get that. The more they treat me as they do, the more I dont want anything to do with them............... nasty evil stepmum!!!

Sorry for the long rant, but I really had to get this off my chest!

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Squirrel3 · 11/08/2005 08:36

Catsmother, yes your posts are usually long but you do talk alot of sense.

Sam please listen to her, I really think its ultimatum time.

SadSam · 15/08/2005 08:59

Thank you CatsMother, Squirrel etc. On Friday I had yet another row with DP which led to a real heart to heart in which I told him I was thinking of leaving him so that I could have a proper life, my life. We discussed things in depth and things got quite emotional, and guess what?????????????? We are going to try for a baby after Christmas!!!!!!! We have even chosen names lol! I have posted on another site regarding anything I need to know to get pregnant as I have been on the pill for 13 years and so far have received quite a bit of advice. God Im so excited!!! Lol - I just wanna go out and buy baby clothes!

With regards to his kids situation and the discipline, he has promised to be better with them although he has said that he refuses to smack them which is fair enough! He said if he hears them being rude to me again he will tell them off, so I do believe we have made real progress. Time will tell as we have them again for a week this Friday!

Anyone that can give any advice on becoming a mum for the first time at 35 (As Im 35 next Feb) would be gratefully appreciated. Not sure how long it takes once you come off the pill etc. Also we would both love a girl, as DP has 2 boys and a girl but the girl is a real mummys girl and has been totally alienated against DP. Also I think it would make SS (8) a bit less jelouse if we had a girl as he wouldnt feel so threatened. I know it sounds stupid as I dont really care what I have as long as it is healthy, but anything to keep the peace and make as few ructions as possible would be great!

Thank you all so much for your advice and help, you have been godsends, all of you! XXX

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ninah · 15/08/2005 09:39

hey Sadsam (HappySam!) congratulations! good luck to you
fwiw I had ds at 35 took 2 'attempts' only and dss was delighted and is now very fond of little brother. Like you I thought he'd have preferred a girl, but no, adamant he wanted us to have a boy! and we did
now on number 2
however appalling your s-children can be if you're happy it all seems much more bearable
You've made my week!

Squirrel3 · 15/08/2005 10:51

I am soooooooooooo excited for you!!!!!!!!

Have fun trying

Squirrel3 · 15/08/2005 11:49

Sam you have got to change your name now!!!!!

robinia · 15/08/2005 11:59

So pleased for you SadSam.
I got pregnant 2 months after coming off the pill after 10 years on it.

And dp doesn't need to smack his children in order to discipline them. Can't see what age ss is but sd being 6 I would assume 8 or 9ish. At that age time outs and confiscation of toys / limits of PC or TV time etc. seem to work best for us. Also, no pleases and thank yous = not getting what they want. (Just seen from your first post that dp doesn't do this - make him do it - you (both) can reason with them at this age and tell them WHY it's important to be polite.)

So pleased he is seeing your pov at last. Let's hope he can tighten up on the discipline - his children will respect him much more for it.

NotActuallyAMum · 15/08/2005 12:40

Really glad you've got things sorted, you will make a wonderful mum . Let's hope he sticks to it with the discipline - if he doesn't be sure to pull him up on it!

catsmother · 15/08/2005 13:12

Sam - big congratulations .... I bet you feel a whole lot better now, because, obviously agreeing to go ahead with a baby is a huge and "proper" commitment from your DP. It shows that he does think very highly of you and does see a future with you.

I became a mum for the 2nd at 38 (almost 39) after having been a mum 1st at 25. I have to admit that I found the 2nd pregnancy a lot tougher than the 1st, but I think the physical problems I had could just have easily happened to anyone, no matter what their age, it was just bad luck. TBH, the worst part of the 2nd pregnancy was the stress that BM caused .... but that's (another) long story. 35 isn't old to be having a baby - even a 1st - loads of women don't start till around then these days .... so long as you're fit, hopefully you'll sail through it.

Both skids were excited about the baby. They even came to one of my scans (it was private, or I don't think the hospital would have been quite so accomodating). From then, there has been very little sign of jealousy towards their little sister .... though BM has stuck the boot in of course, telling them she is "not" their sister .... which, of course, we refuted and put right. IMO, a spiteful comment like that potentially says a whole lot more about her - I felt like saying to her "oh, so you have something you want to tell DP then about his children do you ?" !!! They also get a whole load of unrelenting remarks about Daddy spending all his money on the new baby - but again, this is refuted when repeated to us. I honestly feel that so long as there isn't any blatant favouritism and the arrival of a baby doesn't alter the contact an absent dad has with his kids, that the majority of skids will be naturally excited about a new brother or sister. Unfortunately, you may just need to watch what is said to them at home about it - and be prepared to offer reassurance that Daddy doesn't love them any less now .... but then that is the sort of thing that parents within a 2 parent "natural", "together" family often say anyhow.

Blu · 16/08/2005 10:24

Sam, pleased things have been moving on for you - i am a bit grumpy with your DP for having to have the emotional stakes raised so high before he agreed to have a baby wioth you - is he alsways going to go fr the highest emotional bidder, iyswim? Sorry - i really don't mean to put a damper on this - it must be good that you had such a deep heart to heart, and he has realised what all this means to you.

I have remembered that when i was a p/t sm, one of the things that made it strong was that I was able to make my own individual relationship with sd, and that was because I actualy looked after her on my own quite a bit without (now ex) dp. She was younger than your skids, so it's much easier, but I wonder if it might help for you to spend some time alone with the skids - take them out for a whole day, etc. When they haven't got your dp to play off against, they might actually settle down and appreciate your company, and your 'ways' - inc boundaries.

Just a thought - maybe you have tried this, so sorry if teaching you to suck eggs! .

Good luck, anyway. So pleased things are looking so much better.

SadSam · 16/08/2005 15:51

Thank you all for your kind words and congratulations. I must say I am currently feeling very excited! Lol

Blue, thank you for your comments, unfortunately I do not get to spend too much time on my own with the kids, partly because DP used to have them during the week when he was on rest days and I was working (he used to work shifts 6 days on 4 days off). However now he is working normal hours, I will try it although its very difficult as he only has them for 3 days a month and we try to have them at his parents house (as all his family live over 200 miles away) so understandably they all want to spend as much time as possible together. We have them for a week from Friday (the last of 2 whole weeks we have them in the summer holidays for), but once again he is off with them and I am at work until 6pm each day as I dont have enough holiday left. I will remember that and try it next year though so thanks!

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tarantula · 17/08/2005 09:49

How did I manage to miss this news. Obviously Ive been on a different planet recently. Sam that is fantastic. Im sooo happy for you. Youll ahve to put in a lot of practice between now and Christmas the sacrifices we ahve to make eh

Blu · 17/08/2005 09:59

Sam, I can see that you live v pressured lives (practically and emotionally) doing all this juggling, and I do admire your stickability and determination to make this work for all the people in your extended and complicated family. You deserve for everything to fall into happy place, and I am sure it will. Well done.

tab3 · 18/08/2005 00:02

hi, had a quick look thru ur posts. In a similar situation, but really don't know how to handle it. need some words of advice please.Hubby and i have two kids of our own, a boy 3 and li'l girl 3 months.
Hubby got married to his cousin and had two kids-arranged marriage malarkey. i came into the picture about 5 years ago. they were divorced, he lived with parents and psycho ex lived in their house with kids(i'm now living here-v weird for me!!) when psycho found out we had to literally run away-moved to another town 200miles away! she stalked me, tried to take my son out of nursery by saying i'd been in an accident! Troubles have gone on resulting in myself and my son being attacked by her-my lad had head injuries. That was 2 years ago.
We pay CSA and have tried to have contact with his kids, but psycho got an injunction by telling a pack of lies to courts.
Well tonight my hubby's son called and said they were coming to our town and could he stay. I know i should be happy for my hubby-but I cant help feel so much resentment. My hubby's family-which is of course psycho's family has made me feel so unwelcome, they do favour her kids over mine- i feel like its just not fair. I turned 24 this year-I shouldnt be going thru this now. I love him and he loves me, but if i had known it would be like this, i wouldnt have bothered. How do you get over this feeling?

robinia · 19/08/2005 10:29

Please don't lump dh's son in with his psycho ex. If he is anything like her it is because he has been brainwashed by her and is not his fault at all. Your dh must be delighted that his son wants to stay. I know it will seem like nothing but trouble for you but for dh and dh's son's sake, you should try to be nice about it. Maybe it will turn out much better than you fear.

Nightynight · 19/08/2005 11:57

If your stepson phoned and asked to stay, then he must want to see his dad. I wonder what his mother's reaction to that was, if she's gone out of her way to try and cut the children off from him?

It is hard, but it is a long term surefire winner to rise above the situation and be an angel to his children. Im also involved in some ex/children relationships though not quite the same, Im determined to keep the moral high ground because the children will judge for themselves when they get older.

SadSam · 19/08/2005 17:10

Just wanted to say a big big thank you to everyone who posted messages of congratulations and support to me. Thnak you so much it was so greatfully appreciated. xxx

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GirlySquare · 21/08/2005 08:54

Hi SadSam - congratulations and 100x - I became first time mum at 41 after years on the pill then Depo injection, it took a year or so but Depo takes ages to wear off so I'm told. I did go to Doctor to chat about intentions to get on record straight away just in case we had problems conceiving. Doctor very encouraging which was nice, advised me to take folic acid.

tab3 - what a nightmare! However, I do agree with robinia you can't lump dh's son in with psycho-ex though I can understand you are concerned about outcome of his visit.

SadSam · 23/08/2005 11:57

Thank you GirlySquare x

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Surfermum · 25/08/2005 16:08

Hi SS, I'm just catching up after not being around much. This is just fantastic news , and I'm so pleased your dh has agreed to having a child with you. It really did need sorting out one way or the other otherwise you would never have been happy. I was with someone who didn't want children for 12 years and spent a long time kidding myself that it didn't matter, but now I've had dd I know I would have ended up resenting him if I'd stayed with him.

I had dd when I was 41 and didn't have any problem getting pregnant. I was worried too about dsd's reaction, but on the whole she's been fantastic and dd and dsd love each other dearly, and it's great to see them playing together. We just made sure she was involved and had a say in getting their bedroom decorated, and when dd was born she bought her a present (a huge paddling pool that I spent the summer in!) and dh took her to Thorpe Park. We used to try to make sure that as much as possible things didn't change for dsd when dd arrived, and they always try to do something just the two of them when she's here. We still get "Dad plays with surferbaby more than with me" at times, but I hope that's just normal sibling rivalry. Of course, if dh tries to cuddle dsd or offers to play with her it's not cool and she doesn't want to, so poor dh can't win! Just remember too, you'll need to rise above any comments that the x makes, directly or indirectly. If she's nasty, it just speaks volumes about her, not you.

Keeping everything crossed for you! Keep us posted.

NoLongerSadSam · 25/08/2005 16:50

Thank you Surfermum, that means so much to me. I know it wont be easy, but I am really looking forward to it. Anyway just cos my situation is sorted, it doesnt mean I wont be chatting on here. I will still keep looking in most days and chatting to all you lovely people! xxx

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