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Why is the bar for neglect so low?

109 replies

tedcherries · 08/04/2025 10:54

Is it due to the lack of resources?

I know Mumsnet is particularly touchy when it comes to speaking poorly of parents; especially mums. But this is so on going now it’s extremely frustrating.

I have watched my step daughters care and basic needs just decrease over the years and it’s just so sad. Mum will not engage with dad (my husband) whatsoever. They use a family app to communicate after my husband took her to court for some other issues. She ignores all messages (sometimes doesn’t even read them). Step daughter is just 12.

My step daughter is hugely overweight, she comes to us utterly filthy, white socks that are black and holey, orange teeth, underwear soiled, recently got her first bras but didn’t take her for a measurement; so I did and she’s wearing the totally wrong size (by inches; it must have been so uncomfortable), then the bra she came down in was grime covered with bodily oils on the straps. Her hair is long and knotted. Attendance at school is poor, assessments and reports are mostly all below average. It just goes on and on. Screen time on her phone is 70 hours on average a week; this is while she’s in school too. No parental locks etc. Has been getting taxis alone since she was 10 to go to places which are a 15/20 min walk as mum won’t walk with her. She hangs out in town until late. Mum has been leaving her alone at nights to go to the pub and ordering Domino’s for her dinner while she’s there etc. She also slept on the floor for over a year on a thin mattress and when we sent a bed to her on delivery she refused to take it in.

Mum I think needs help and educating hugely. I do think she’s doing the best that she can but these things are growing more and more out of control and it’s just so sad. I have bought a load of socks, knickers and new bras for her to take home so she has some clean ones which aren’t holey or dirty.

I know this is going to be seen as me bashing the mum but it really isn’t, we are in utter despair and are just so sad it’s on going.

Mediation doesn’t work, court; husband got what he went for which was not to do with any of this as CAFCASS didn’t seem it was necessary.

The whole issue also is that she moved 250 miles away so now we don’t see her weekly anymore and I think that is the biggest factor; as we aren’t seeing her as much as we did before. We get all holidays, half terms etc and share Christmas/New Year. We would see her more often if we financially and logistically could.

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WhoisRebecca · 08/04/2025 19:31

Not a chance I’d move my children 250 miles away because DH’s ex decided to move away with her dc! I’d end the marriage rather than do that. But I would have expected him to prevent the move via court.

tedcherries · 08/04/2025 20:00

We have someone from the NSPCC helpline calling us back tomorrow for advice. Also written up another email for school and will call LA tomorrow once spoken to NSPCC.

She is due home this weekend. I suggested we don’t take her back but husband is reluctant due to previous issues with mum and her using daughter as pawn. We haven’t been able to speak properly as he is working this evening so will discuss what we need to do next.

I guess it wouldn’t be a good idea for me to contact mum in a gentle way? Probably a stupid idea.

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tedcherries · 08/04/2025 20:01

People are also saying we aren’t doing much but we really have tried all avenues bar not sending her back to mum. We have been told this isn’t a good idea by the previous solicitor.

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Ted27 · 08/04/2025 20:30

@tedcherries

Set aside all the difficulties and the ifs, buts, and maybes

What would you ideally like to happen
Is this the same as what your husband wants

tedcherries · 08/04/2025 20:32

Ted27 · 08/04/2025 20:30

@tedcherries

Set aside all the difficulties and the ifs, buts, and maybes

What would you ideally like to happen
Is this the same as what your husband wants

Either mum to receive some early help to address our concerns or if that isn’t possible/mum isn’t capable, for her to live with us.

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RandomMess · 08/04/2025 20:33

It’s school holidays so why don’t you keep her for longer with the plan of returning back in time for school depending on how things pan out.

Can you persuade her to bring plenty of her clothes with her to “sort through them and see what new clothes you need” so you can get them all washed and clean etc.

Espresso25 · 09/04/2025 09:44

Could withholding her not backfire on you? What is Mum cuts contact for fear you’ll keep her - realistically no court will force a 13 year old to live with you.

Espresso25 · 09/04/2025 09:45

RandomMess · 08/04/2025 20:33

It’s school holidays so why don’t you keep her for longer with the plan of returning back in time for school depending on how things pan out.

Can you persuade her to bring plenty of her clothes with her to “sort through them and see what new clothes you need” so you can get them all washed and clean etc.

I’d forgotten about school holidays - but keeping her the entirety of the holiday is of course a good idea.

Espresso25 · 09/04/2025 09:47

OP my friends child is court ordered to live with them and the mum is only allowed supervised contact. But Mum has two other younger children, fathers unknown, who live with her. Because the younger kids have no one fighting their corner but seems totally illogical.

Are there any concerns for Mums other children?

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