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If you're a mum with a child who has a stepmum...

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tiredofthiisshit21 · 18/10/2022 19:57

....what exactly do you expect from her in relation to your children?

Genuinely interested, based on a number of recent posts where mums have expected last minute childcare for their kids. Does this really happen a lot in the real world?

The mother of my stepkids has never expected a thing from me. I guess it helps that my husband properly parents and never fobs them off on me, or maybe I set my boundaries correctly from the outset.

Interested to hear thoughts.

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Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:16

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:14

I find it really odd that you’d willingly get into a relationship with a man who has kids but be so against looking after them. So odd.

It's not really, presumably the man is capable of looking after them himself?

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:17

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:15

Boundary? She refers to herself as stepmum, has always been quite hands on from what I hear. Families who live together having “boundaries” like that is weird.

It's really not. Everyone knows where they stand

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:19

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:16

It's not really, presumably the man is capable of looking after them himself?

Well yes, but we all need childcare sometimes, school holidays if one’s working and the other isn’t etc. I think if you live together as a family, then you treat each other as a family.

if I didn’t want that, I’d simply not get involved with someone who had children and regular access to them. It’s quite easy.

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:20

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:19

Well yes, but we all need childcare sometimes, school holidays if one’s working and the other isn’t etc. I think if you live together as a family, then you treat each other as a family.

if I didn’t want that, I’d simply not get involved with someone who had children and regular access to them. It’s quite easy.

They have another parent to arrange that with

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:21

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:17

It's really not. Everyone knows where they stand

It wouldn’t work for me. I could never introduce someone to my kids, let alone have them live with us, if I couldn’t rely on or trust them to parent. This was something I kept in mind when I was a single mum.

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:24

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:21

It wouldn’t work for me. I could never introduce someone to my kids, let alone have them live with us, if I couldn’t rely on or trust them to parent. This was something I kept in mind when I was a single mum.

Fair enough. Maybe it is different being the Non Resident Parent, but there's never any expectation from my DH for me to be a parent to his kids.

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:24

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:20

They have another parent to arrange that with

Not always. Me and my ex have set days, it works best that way and saves arguments. We are flexible when we can be, but it’s not always possible, so in those scenarios, it’s grandparents or step parents to help. I personally, don’t have contact with my parents, so only have my husband. But it’s how it should be, he’s my husband and loves and treats my kids as if they were his own, having been in their lives from them being young toddlers.

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:24

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:24

Not always. Me and my ex have set days, it works best that way and saves arguments. We are flexible when we can be, but it’s not always possible, so in those scenarios, it’s grandparents or step parents to help. I personally, don’t have contact with my parents, so only have my husband. But it’s how it should be, he’s my husband and loves and treats my kids as if they were his own, having been in their lives from them being young toddlers.

Nah no way am I using my annual leave on someone else's kids. 2 parent's worth of annual leave should be enough for them.

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:25

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:24

Fair enough. Maybe it is different being the Non Resident Parent, but there's never any expectation from my DH for me to be a parent to his kids.

Maybe it is different then. Me and ex have 60/40 custody in my favour, but he still has a fair amount and always has.

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:27

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:24

Nah no way am I using my annual leave on someone else's kids. 2 parent's worth of annual leave should be enough for them.

You assume all parents work full time and have A/L… not the case with us. We each all have different work patterns.
I wouldn’t expect my kids stepmum to take AL to look after my kids anyway, but if she did, it would be at their fathers request. I’m which case, not my business.

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:28

Chailatteplease · 26/10/2022 20:27

You assume all parents work full time and have A/L… not the case with us. We each all have different work patterns.
I wouldn’t expect my kids stepmum to take AL to look after my kids anyway, but if she did, it would be at their fathers request. I’m which case, not my business.

If she's not on annual leave then that doesn't mean she's free childcare

Lilithslove · 26/10/2022 20:37

Boundary? She refers to herself as stepmum, has always been quite hands on from what I hear. Families who live together having “boundaries” like that is weird.

Step mum must not cross mum's boundaries but isn't allowed to have any boundaries her own..

Lilithslove · 26/10/2022 20:41

However, I do find it odd that after 8 years of being stepmum, she rarely looks after them on her own- on his access days if he needs childcare, they go to his mum.
I’ve been with DH 6 years and if I need childcare on my days, he’s the first person I ask.

I find it odd that you don't flex contact so that the child is with their parent when the other isn't available rather than asking your Dh or sending them off to your ex's mum.
What's the point of sticking to ridgid acccess days if the the children aren't even spending time with their parent?

Fajeeta · 26/10/2022 20:47

@Lilithslove Yes thats what I find odd. If they aren't actually contacting their parent then what's the point? Be with the parent who is available.

SemperIdem · 03/11/2022 11:28

Very little to be honest. I expect kindness, but not help with childcare etc. I do think it hypocritical she expects my exh to help her with her childcare mind.

I don’t assist with childcare with my step children and I don’t ask my partner to assist with mine.

beachcitygirl · 04/11/2022 05:33

I would hope for a "favourite aunt" type relationship.
If she's expected to be around with the hard stuff (of parenting ie making food, laundry, tidying, teenage moans) then she's within her rights to 'parent' and when I say that I mean, enforce rules, tell off if they're cheeky, not take any 'snash' for example my daughter and I are both avid readers and will regularly read at dinner and discuss our books (not always) stepmum has a rule of everyone at the table and chatting. I support her in that & dd must do as she's told in that respect.

Kids are capable of understanding different places, different rules. They don't behave in the same way at school as they do at home for example

I would expect her to be respected & when in her house - her rules & yes it is her house as well as dads. I expect kindness & warmth & mutual respect between me & her.

11MonthsDifference · 04/11/2022 17:35

Wow, I'm always told I do so much for my partner but seeing all of these posts really has made me realise it. I always look after my partner's daughter, I work from home though currently on maternity leave. All school holidays she spends with me, even when working. I did all school runs after she went back to school after lock down as my work was flexible, his wasn't. She goes to school half an hour away due to her mum not living in same town so it was a big commitment, 2 hours out of the day minimum and normally resulted in me working late to make up for lost time.

Continued this on my first maternity leave and it was much harder, getting ready to leave the house started at 2:15, getting back at 4:10 ish, as had to get the baby out, coats/pramsuits on etc, then I'd read with her, do her maths, get her showered, nearly always get her ready for school too. Wow honestly I am shocked at how much help I am to him. When I went back to work after our first I couldn't do the school runs anymore, the times simply couldn't work, despite my work telling me I could be flexible with looking after baby and work in the evenings if needed I just didn't want to. I wanted to be fully committed to looking after my baby after nursery and I was already pregnant again so was tired in the evenings, doing the school run as well would have meant working for two and a half hours in the evenings which I would have wanted to do after bedtimes so would have meant working until 10:30. So my partner's parents helped but he had also gone self employed and had some flexibility to do both nursery and school runs. Now I'm on my second maternity leave and getting out in the morning at 8am feels literally impossible. There is no option to drop and go which some schools offer, I also now have a much bigger car so can't squeeze in somewhere close to the gate and also now getting 2 babies out and wrapped up warm. SD's mum drops her on the road of the school to walk in on her own, something my partner and I don't feel comfortable with at 8yo.

His parents are still helping out with lifts this first school term, youngest is only 3mo but I've been feeling guilty for not doing them... I'm still getting her ready for school in the mornings. One evening she goes back to her Nan and Grandad for tea and the other nights she comes straight home and I do the usual, snack, reading, maths, shower, dinner.

We split everything big for her financially 50/50, like a big clothes shop, but in all honesty I pick up the cost of nearly everything else. I of course love her very much. As a parent in my own house I do put rules in place and I will tell her if she isn't following any rules, eg if she's not talking kindly, not doing as she's told. There is no discipline in the house at all imo, i.e. No consequences for unacceptable behaviour and so I wouldn't dream of disciplining her. But if her dad started putting consequences in place I wouldn't even think twice about doing the same with her and I believe he would fully support me on this, if he asked me not to and to leave this to him I would also not find this a problem. She sees me as a parent in this house and I would say I treat her as one of my own. Maybe I shouldn't feel to guilty for not doing the school runs, it would definitely impact my 14mo's naps.

JulesCobb · 04/11/2022 22:30

11MonthsDifference · 04/11/2022 17:35

Wow, I'm always told I do so much for my partner but seeing all of these posts really has made me realise it. I always look after my partner's daughter, I work from home though currently on maternity leave. All school holidays she spends with me, even when working. I did all school runs after she went back to school after lock down as my work was flexible, his wasn't. She goes to school half an hour away due to her mum not living in same town so it was a big commitment, 2 hours out of the day minimum and normally resulted in me working late to make up for lost time.

Continued this on my first maternity leave and it was much harder, getting ready to leave the house started at 2:15, getting back at 4:10 ish, as had to get the baby out, coats/pramsuits on etc, then I'd read with her, do her maths, get her showered, nearly always get her ready for school too. Wow honestly I am shocked at how much help I am to him. When I went back to work after our first I couldn't do the school runs anymore, the times simply couldn't work, despite my work telling me I could be flexible with looking after baby and work in the evenings if needed I just didn't want to. I wanted to be fully committed to looking after my baby after nursery and I was already pregnant again so was tired in the evenings, doing the school run as well would have meant working for two and a half hours in the evenings which I would have wanted to do after bedtimes so would have meant working until 10:30. So my partner's parents helped but he had also gone self employed and had some flexibility to do both nursery and school runs. Now I'm on my second maternity leave and getting out in the morning at 8am feels literally impossible. There is no option to drop and go which some schools offer, I also now have a much bigger car so can't squeeze in somewhere close to the gate and also now getting 2 babies out and wrapped up warm. SD's mum drops her on the road of the school to walk in on her own, something my partner and I don't feel comfortable with at 8yo.

His parents are still helping out with lifts this first school term, youngest is only 3mo but I've been feeling guilty for not doing them... I'm still getting her ready for school in the mornings. One evening she goes back to her Nan and Grandad for tea and the other nights she comes straight home and I do the usual, snack, reading, maths, shower, dinner.

We split everything big for her financially 50/50, like a big clothes shop, but in all honesty I pick up the cost of nearly everything else. I of course love her very much. As a parent in my own house I do put rules in place and I will tell her if she isn't following any rules, eg if she's not talking kindly, not doing as she's told. There is no discipline in the house at all imo, i.e. No consequences for unacceptable behaviour and so I wouldn't dream of disciplining her. But if her dad started putting consequences in place I wouldn't even think twice about doing the same with her and I believe he would fully support me on this, if he asked me not to and to leave this to him I would also not find this a problem. She sees me as a parent in this house and I would say I treat her as one of my own. Maybe I shouldn't feel to guilty for not doing the school runs, it would definitely impact my 14mo's naps.

What. The actual. Fuck. does you dh do for his child?

you are a mug.

Liorae · 05/11/2022 12:01

JulesCobb · 04/11/2022 22:30

What. The actual. Fuck. does you dh do for his child?

you are a mug.

Nothing. That's what women are for. And now she can tell all her friends that she has a partner! Although quite what he is a partner in is questionable.

Dinoswearunderpants · 08/11/2022 16:14

I'm a SM and I do zero.

In the beginning, I wanted to be involved. As another adult who cares about SKs, not as a parent.

They always had their parents; they don't need another. Both Mum and Dad are doing well.

As time has gone on, it's clear SKs want less and less to do with me. Naturally that hurt but then I realised it's ok and it's their choice.

I chose to Nacho. I treat them as a friend's child. I'm kind to them, I'll pull them up if they ask me for something but don't say please/thank you and I will play/interact with them, on their terms.

They were 4, 7 and 11 when we first got together. Now they're 9, 12 and 15. Naturally the older two want to be at home, with their friends. I barely see them.

I think SMs get such a bashing. I appreciate sometimes they might not be the best but there seems to be this expectation that they should love and care for someone else's children however they're not allowed to discipline or be involved with certain things.

It's ok to use them for childcare when it suits the parents.

ABrotherWhoLooksLikeHellMugYou · 08/11/2022 16:39

Absolutely nothing. She was the AP and I would rather have as little to do with her as possible, which I do, so that's fine. She has two her own roughly the same ages so I guess she cba. They mention her, but she doesn't seem that involved which is fine as they're staying in order to see their dad

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