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How do you feel about your stepchildren?

143 replies

lavawater · 28/08/2022 19:31

This is a genuinely curious question.
I'm young to be a stepparent so I have no friends or even acquaintances who have stepchildren to ask bar one, who has an amazing relationship with her SC and treats them as her own.

I don't feel like that.
I struggle when they're with us, I struggle to build a relationship with them, I look forward to them going home when they're here. They're OK kids but raised differently to how I raise my DC and that makes matters more complex.
But I do fantasise about it just being me and DC in my home sometimes - it almost feels like they're guests and I'm uncomfortable when they're here, which sounds awful.

I'm starting to feel horrible for feeling like this and I'm curious to see how abnormal this is amongst other stepparents.
How do you feel about your DSC? Do you enjoy having them there/love them etc? Or am I not too horrific? Blush

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Dinoswearunderpants · 31/08/2022 13:54

Lilithslove · 31/08/2022 13:04

Just because a SM doesn’t jump up with enthusiasm at looking after her stepchildren all summer for the parents, doesn’t mean she dislikes the child. It means she dislikes being a doormat for two people who should be taking some damn responsibility for the child that they created.

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Absolutely try. I wouldn't actively look after my SC. It's not my responsibility, it's the parents.

funinthesun19 · 31/08/2022 14:16

It’s like if I demanded my parents look after my children when they don’t want to, and then whining about how they need to “think of the children” if they say no. Imagine how bratty and ridiculous I would sound.
Well, that’s how the parents and their cheerleaders sound when they pull their faces.

SudocremOnEverything · 31/08/2022 14:17

@Dinoswearunderpants All the problems I have had with my SC also stem from their parents. The children are difficult and not very likeable (my friends and family have noticed this) but that’s because they’re being brought up to be demanding, hypercritical and attention seeking. Both their parents are teaching them to be this way.

STBXH hid a great deal of the dysfunction from me so I didn’t realise it until we were committed. The thing about stepfamilies is that - for the children - you have to be all in and can’t properly test things out. So it is easy for the man you marry to hide his poor parenting. Then, when you move in together, you assume the children’s behaviour is a response to the changes etc. But over time it gets worse and it turns out that your husband is, in fact, a total nightmare.

Both my older sons vehemently dislike the SC and are quite pleased to no longer have to have anything to do with them. Conversely, the SC apparently ask regularly about seeing me and my sons because they really like us. Not that you’d ever have known that because literally nothing was ever good enough for them or their parents (they are children who will be taken to a theme park and complain that it isn’t good enough for them - because that’s the behaviour their parents model at all times).

I went into this as a person who likes children and tried really hard. And I did my best to do my due diligence but STBXH hid lots of things from me. He is not the man I thought he was at all (which is something many women would say about the men they ended up divorcing). I didn’t receive a crystal ball so I worked with what I knew at the time. I had the best intentions and (stupidly) assumed that STBXH did too.

Lilithslove · 31/08/2022 15:15

I think there is a big contradiction between two things that are often trotted out to step parents "you knew what were getting into" and "no one should introduce a partner for a year".

If it is bad to meet the children before a year then you are going to be heavily invested in the relationship before you meet them. And if you haven't met them then you don't know if you get on with them and like them so don't know what you are getting into.

Lilithslove · 31/08/2022 15:16

I plan to go out but then can't as plans change.

@Dinoswearunderpants it is perfectly fine for you to make your own plans and go out when your SC are there.

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 15:32

goldenbag · 30/08/2022 18:55

It's really hard to witness people who don't like their step children. I have two friends like this, and I really really feel for the step children - especially given people know the deal when they go into a relationship.

Let's break that down, shall we?

people know the deal when they go into a relationship

So, men. MEN. Men know the deal when they have children and 'go into' a new relationship. Men know they already have children, and child contact arrangements, and responsibilities, and a former family, and that there is a family home where their own children spend much of their lives with mum, doing homework, having friends round, etc. Men know all this.

But men willingly choose over and over again to enter into new relationships.

So, tell me again - whose responsibility is it to work really hard to make those children's lives nice and pleasant?

SudocremOnEverything · 31/08/2022 15:54

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 15:32

Let's break that down, shall we?

people know the deal when they go into a relationship

So, men. MEN. Men know the deal when they have children and 'go into' a new relationship. Men know they already have children, and child contact arrangements, and responsibilities, and a former family, and that there is a family home where their own children spend much of their lives with mum, doing homework, having friends round, etc. Men know all this.

But men willingly choose over and over again to enter into new relationships.

So, tell me again - whose responsibility is it to work really hard to make those children's lives nice and pleasant?

Many of these men know they have totally unresolved issues relating to that first family - they aren’t actually ok with being a nonresident parent, with the children having a different, main home, with being the secondary parental influence on their children, with having to pay maintenance, and so on.

But they also know that will put a new partner off. So they hide it (and often the circumstances help them to do so). Even where the new partner has children herself, she probably hasn’t in any way anticipated what she’s getting herself into. Why would you expect that? And then there’s the superimposition of the guilt on to her. He gets to take on a poor victim, martyr of his first family’s demise.

One of the biggest differences between the experiences of stepmothers and stepfathers is that resident parents (predominantly mothers) don’t so often operate out of fear that their children will be ‘taken away’ from them. They are much more secure in their parental role and are able to have a stepfather come in and give him reasonable levels of authority in what becomes his home. Stepmothers assume the same will happen to them, and find themselves down a guilt-ridden, Disney dad rabbit hole in which they are always available to take on the role of antagonist (for everyone!). Add in a whole load of societal gender roles shit and you’ve got a much more difficult situation which makes it harder to form any kind of positive step parenting relationship.

Sometimes, it seems that getting (re)married and/or having a baby together triggers a lot of this stuff. It was ok and he was a better parent, but actually committing to the stepmother seems to precipitate all the worst aspects of stepfamily dynamics. It might be that shift comes from the man or is prompted by how the external actors around the marriage/second family respond.

But it’s not uncommon for there to be a big shift, often just at the moment when the stepmother actually needs support. And for that shift to position the stepmother and her child(ren) as problems. Rather than being able to feel secure in her new marriage, she finds herself almost punished for her husband’s guilt over moving on. Rather than being able to feel that her husband is her partner and coparenting, raising their new baby together, she (and the new child) are treated as threats to the first family children and she finds herself having to fight to protect herself and her child from the man she thought was her partner in very tangible ways. Over an over again.

Nothing breeds resentment like that kind of situation. Feeling like you have to fight your husband just to be a normal parent to your child is awful. Birthdays and
christmases become fraught because you can’t so much as buy your child a present without it being positions as a sleight on the SC. The anxiety over your family buying anything for your child makes this even worse. In some of the cases on here we see even trying to buy your toddler an ice cream at the park becomes fraught with tension.

No one anticipates this. It’s completely weird and, of course, they didn’t get married and have a baby with the expectation that they’d spend the whole marriage/child’s life feeling like they are in hostage negotiations over the most ordinary things.

SudocremOnEverything · 31/08/2022 15:59

Which is to say, if these men put their efforts into getting therapy to come to terms with the reality of their lives before they decide to find a replacement wife, things would be much better for their children (and their wife).

If they actually wanted to pull their weight as a parent, rather than delegating to the nearest women… again, things would be much better for their children (and their wife).

If everyone (including us as women entering relationships!) stopped letting men off the hook and having such low expectations of ‘good fathering’, then things would be much better for their children (and their wife).

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 17:24

@SudocremOnEverything that's a very thought-provoking and intelligent post. I know everyone's situations are different, but much of it rings so true, considering the dozens of posts we see on MN every day about these very matters.

GingerAndLemonn · 31/08/2022 18:42

HumptyDumpty2022 · 31/08/2022 13:50

I’d dare to suggest it’s more to do with not having the brains to understand what the words you’re using mean!

Your husband, if he exists which I very much doubt, is a very patient man for putting up with your nonsense. You sound a total nightmare!

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GingerAndLemonn · 31/08/2022 18:45

Lilithslove · 31/08/2022 13:48

@GingerAndLemonn are you sure you just didn't happen to fall in love with a guy with no kids?

No I have, but when I realised I couldn’t give his daughter what she needed from me, I ended the relationship. I’m still in the daughters life as we’re still friends but step parenting isn’t for me. It’s hard! But rather than struggle through and hurt the child in the process I walked away. I won’t let anyone tell me that’s wrong.

Friarclose · 31/08/2022 18:53

I have mixed feelings.

I've been in their lives since they were 1, 4 and 5. They're now 9, 12 and 14.

It's been a bumpy ride. I've had moments when I've loved them, moments when I've disliked them intensely. They've been great for my DS11. He's an only child and they've been like siblings to him, he's had a great childhood thanks to them. He's very close to DSS9 and DSS12. DSD14 is another story entirely, which I won't go into but suffice to say DH and I have nearly split in the past due to the strain she put on our marriage.

Best way to say it would be I love them but for the most part I don't like them. They're incredibly ungrateful and entitled and they take my DH for granted. If I could make it so that they had never existed.. yes, I probably would.

Having said that, we actually get on well and they see me as a parent. I do a lot for them and make a lot of sacrifices for them. They're my family and this is how its worked out for me. As i said, very very complicated feelings.

stepmumspacepodcast · 31/08/2022 19:08

goldenbag · 30/08/2022 18:55

It's really hard to witness people who don't like their step children. I have two friends like this, and I really really feel for the step children - especially given people know the deal when they go into a relationship.

People don’t know the deal when they go into a relationship. And those who say they do are part of the problem.

Mehlani · 31/08/2022 20:57

I feel exactly as you do (I'm a youngish SP too) and if I'm being honest I also feel some resentment.

They have no idea btw, I'm much more fun than OH which bodes well with them and I go out of my way to make them happy/comfortable. If they needed me I would 100% be there for them. I have on occasion completely put my neck on the line for them. I've advocated for them. I've supported and nurtured them. They're actually good kids.

It's shit though, this step parenting lark. Those who say it isn't are lucky.

Having your schedule dictated by another household. Not being able to make big decisions like where to live because you have to take DSC into account.

Me and OH share children who I have 24-7 (Im a carer to our eldest who is disabled) then on his days off work he has DSC here so I get virtually no free time and I'm regularly running on empty.

None of it is the kids fault and as I said they're good kids, but I would be lying if I said it wouldn't be easier/better/nicer for me if he didn't have other children.

Like many SM's I was full of good intentions for the first few years and was very much of the "you know what you're getting yourself into" mindset but actually, years on, I realise that I didn't have a bloody clue.

You sound perfectly normal to me OP.

DeedIDo · 31/08/2022 21:22

My SD has been hostile to me from the very beginning, so twenty years now. In that time I don't think she has ever started a conversation with me or willingly replied to me if I have spoken to her, refuses to eat food prepared by me, she and her mother ruined my wedding and honeymoon. She clearly has no interest in any kind of blended family. She had not seen my DC since our wedding over 18 years ago and didn't speak to them (or me) then. She ignored her invitation to my DC's wedding. I could go on.

DH, who was alienated for a lot of her childhood, is still trying to have a relationship with her, but even he is struggling in the face of blatant lies and manipulation.

If I had my time overs would I marry him again? Hell, no!

Yummyplumthanksmum · 31/08/2022 23:04

funinthesun19 · 31/08/2022 12:13

A lot of the time, it’s not the child you dislike but the situations surrounding the child that you dislike.
Just because a SM doesn’t jump up with enthusiasm at looking after her stepchildren all summer for the parents, doesn’t mean she dislikes the child. It means she dislikes being a doormat for two people who should be taking some damn responsibility for the child that they created.

This x 100

SemperIdem · 01/09/2022 14:21

I’m with you.

Yes, I went into the situation “knowing what I was getting into”. What I did not know was how wildly differently they had been parented to what I believe to be acceptable. Some of this is of course, their fathers fault, plenty of it is their mothers too. I find them challenging. Not bad, but challenging.

I have a child myself so my parenting ideas aren’t based off Disney dreams and thin air.

But they are comfortable with me, so imagine as time goes on the challenging times will become less.

BakersYeast · 02/09/2022 12:47

I would think that the age at which they come into your life would have something to do with it surely? Possibly it is easier to feel good about them if young children as opposed to step parenting two teenagers? My situation is two teenagers and some of the posts here have made me realise that yes, part of it all is the behaviours and temperaments they have inherited from their parents whether by nature or nurture. My two SC are totally disorganised and it used to drive me insane. Thankfully they are both at Uni now so we see them less. Their mother is a cold fish and the kids are too - in the early days she would take off with no warning and leave one at home and of course we would go pick her up. I saw this SC through this period where she seemed to have no idea of clean clothes v dirty clothes ( young teen) and what you do with them but I would not say she really likes me - maybe it is her age as she only seems to like her bf. I would do anything for them but I don't love them as I do my own.

aSofaNearYou · 02/09/2022 13:11

I would think that the age at which they come into your life would have something to do with it surely? Possibly it is easier to feel good about them if young children as opposed to step parenting two teenagers?

Not necessarily. I met my DSC when he was three and he was sweet for about a year before I started finding him pretty difficult to deal with. Haven't had to deal with the teen years yet but I don't think ages 5-10 are particularly plain sailing when it comes to enjoying other people's kids.

HumptyDumpty2022 · 02/09/2022 15:11

I think age does have a lot to do with it, but the temperament of the child has to be the biggest factor. My husband's son was 14 when I was introduced to him and has always been much less of a difficult character than his sister who is 4 years younger. At 22 and 18 they are much the same now. He's so much easier to get on with.

SudocremOnEverything · 02/09/2022 19:19

There’s a bit in stepmonster where she talks about the evidence relating to difficult ages to meet SC at. Apparently, couples who marry while the SC are toddlers or preschoolers stand the best chance of the marriage lasting.

Toddlers, 4 and the teenage years can be particularly challenging for developmental reasons but, if you can get through the early years, it can provide a foundation for the future challenges. The teenage years are just particularly tough for a stepfamily, especially where there are stepdaughters and a stepmother.

I do think a whole range of other factors matter enormously though. The various personalities and circumstances involved are clearly important, regardless of any broadbrush developmental patterns.

ThuMuClu · 03/09/2022 18:07

I don’t particularly like children in general 🤣 but I do like my stepchildren. All of the issues I have ever had are with their mother - using them to manifest her own issues - and my husband, Disney Dadding his own children while expecting me to parent mine like an army officer. My children’s father lives overseas and I don’t have family so am 100% flying solo. For this reason, I keep very separate to all their parenting, I don’t offer to help or do anything, as I don’t get this support myself, and so it would make me hugely resentful. I think a lot of the difficulty of step parenting is that the woman in the situation puts pressure on herself to help and support the DH and then isn’t appreciated or valued and it all goes to shit. I do think it has been much easier for me to detach as we don’t have children together, and I avoid doing stuff together as much as possible. I am friendly and interested in my stepchildren and they seem to like me, despite their mother’s efforts, and I hope they always feel I made them welcome.

Sunnytwobridges · 04/09/2022 17:31

I couldn’t stand them. 😂. They were always starting meds especially the youngest because her father was a Disney dad with her. Will never date a man with kids again Rather be single 😂

Sunnytwobridges · 04/09/2022 17:31

Sunnytwobridges · 04/09/2022 17:31

I couldn’t stand them. 😂. They were always starting meds especially the youngest because her father was a Disney dad with her. Will never date a man with kids again Rather be single 😂

*mess not meds

CornishGem1975 · 04/09/2022 17:50

But I do fantasise about it just being me and DC in my home sometimes - it almost feels like they're guests and I'm uncomfortable when they're here, which sounds awful.

It's okay to feel like that. Several years down the line as a step-parents and I still feel like that. I feel displaced and often like I am walking on eggshells, like I can't just kick back and relax and be myself.

I like my step-children as I like my friend's kids, but that's it. I treat them with kindness but I don't feel anything stronger towards them.