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Advise from step-parents

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SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 20:27

Just posting for a bit of advice from an actual step parent. My DD really dislikes her dad's GF. To the point she has stopped seeing him when GF is there. Back story is they don't live together and they've been together for 2 years but DD only met GF late last year. EXH won't accept that DD dislikes his GF and would rather leave without DD and return to
His house without her than ask his GF to stay home when DD is there. GF is also the reason DD1 doesn't see her dad. I understand as ex says it isn't DD's choice who he sees but surely they must both feel pretty rubbish about this situation. I just don't know how to approach this situation. Ex is very hostile towards me. I can't have a chat with GF as she was the OW so I have nothing to do with her. I'm happily moved on and have a lovely BF. Thankfully his child accepts me so I can't use my experience as a guide.

Have any of you experienced this with your children or step children and how did the situation get resolved?

Thanks in advance

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SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 20:28

Title should read advice 🤦🏻‍♀️

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SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 20:31

DD2 is 7. DD1 is just 11.

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Sideorderofchips · 22/02/2022 20:31

My eldest hates her dad's girlfriend, with fairly good reason as she was the ow

After coming clean to her dad he has stopped trying to force them to spend time together. This was helped by his girlfriend having a piss fit because a teenager doesn't like her and refusing to have his kids in their house (he moved in with her)

SpaceshiptoMars · 22/02/2022 20:43

Well, stepmothering is not for wimps, that I can tell you. To do it as the OW, you'd need to be nuclear bomb proof nails.

Is it both your DD that hate her, or just Daddy's special girl? (You know, the one that wants all of the cuddles, the snuggle spot on the sofa, and who dawdles at the bedroom door at bedtime?) If the GF is quite physically demonstrative, that would go down like a bucket of cold vomit to a cuddlesome 11 yr old.

SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 21:08

@SpaceshiptoMars

Well, stepmothering is not for wimps, that I can tell you. To do it as the OW, you'd need to be nuclear bomb proof nails.

Is it both your DD that hate her, or just Daddy's special girl? (You know, the one that wants all of the cuddles, the snuggle spot on the sofa, and who dawdles at the bedroom door at bedtime?) If the GF is quite physically demonstrative, that would go down like a bucket of cold vomit to a cuddlesome 11 yr old.

Both. DD2 has actually met her. DD1 hates her by association because she knows she was the OW
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SpaceshiptoMars · 22/02/2022 21:17

I think you need to sit DD2 down and gently get her to give you her reasons. DD1 is in a loyalty bind, which is a different problem.

SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 21:22

@SpaceshiptoMars I've already done this. Her reasons are she was mean to her, she just doesn't like being around her (instinct?), she isn't nice to daddy i.e she never says please or thank you.

Ex doesn't believe a word of this because DD isn't comfortable in expressing this to him.

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SpaceshiptoMars · 22/02/2022 21:24

I'd drill down on what 'mean' means.

Greaterthanthesumoftheparts · 22/02/2022 21:27

This stood out for me:
ex says it isn't DD's choice who he sees
But he wants to dictate that your DD only sees him with his partner,

somehow he doesn’t see the double standards in this…

ilovemyboys3 · 22/02/2022 21:32

Awkward situation but if I was her dad I wouldn't give in to her dictating who he can and can't see either. The minute he says he won't see GF when DD is there, he is giving in to a child and the situation will never get better - maybe he's hoping they'll start to bond or make friends? Your DD hasn't known her long, these things take time. I think you need to try and manage the situation and don't give her an option whether she goes or not. You are the adults, you need to manage the situation better. You need to find out why your DD says she's mean. Is your DD just being overly sensitive?

ChickenStripper · 22/02/2022 21:36

I see that there two of you on here who have involved children in the details of your break up and have revealed about an OW and who she was. I'm afraid you reap what you sow for your children when you do this.

ilovemyboys3 · 22/02/2022 21:36

[quote SallyAnn32]@SpaceshiptoMars I've already done this. Her reasons are she was mean to her, she just doesn't like being around her (instinct?), she isn't nice to daddy i.e she never says please or thank you.

Ex doesn't believe a word of this because DD isn't comfortable in expressing this to him. [/quote]
Clutching at straws i believe. She's mean to daddy. She's 7 years old. Both your children should be unaware she's the OW - you should of protected them from this information

ChickenStripper · 22/02/2022 21:42

[quote SallyAnn32]@SpaceshiptoMars I've already done this. Her reasons are she was mean to her, she just doesn't like being around her (instinct?), she isn't nice to daddy i.e she never says please or thank you.

Ex doesn't believe a word of this because DD isn't comfortable in expressing this to him. [/quote]
Your daughter doesn't need to have instinct as you obviously told her?

SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 21:44

DD1 heard from my mother and she told DD2. It wasn't ideal but it happened and we have dealt with that through conversation with the children together.

By being mean she said that she told her that she told her off for playing with her kids toys that are at her dads house (she doesn't live there) and that she told her to shut up. Whether that's the truth I don't know. But she has no reason to lie and she was really upset when she told me. I've told her I'm very happy for her to go and said she will have a nice time with daddy and ow. This didn't start until the 3rd or 4th time she'd spent time with the GF. She was ok until then.

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ThoseFestiveLights · 22/02/2022 21:44

Why would you tell a child that another person is to blame for this situation? Of course your child will hate the woman and it will corrode their relationship with their dad. And you will probably end up doing all the parenting.

As someone else said: you reap what you sow.

SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 21:44

@Greaterthanthesumoftheparts I didn't look at it that way. That's a good point.

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ChickenStripper · 22/02/2022 21:47

I am a step mum and I firmly believe that Dads and their children should have one on one time. My H is the one who stands at the side of the stable yard - its his "Dad time". Your ex H needs to this this through a bit I think.

SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 21:48

@ThoseFestiveLights see below. My mum dropped the metaphorical ball and apparently it just popped out. I was at work at the time and it was a chat that went along the lines of even though daddy has met someone new the still loves you.
She didn't realise and still feels awful about it.

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oldestmumaintheworld · 22/02/2022 21:53

I think your ex husband is in the wrong on so many levels. He cheated, he moved in to the OWs home and then has a hissy fit because his daughter doesn't want to have anything to do with the OW.
I'm on your daughter's side here. She has no control over how her father behaves, nor who he lives with. However, she does have the right to not like it. She also doesn't have to like the GF. If your ex had any sensitivity or care for his child he would recognise this and make arrangements to see her without his GF. He doesn't. He is a fool. And a thoughtless fool at that.

Bananarama21 · 22/02/2022 21:58

Does your dd look alot like you by any chance? She could very well being mean as she didn't encounter taking on his dc post affair and the fact zhes protective of her dd toys suggests she not very toleratant

SallyAnn32 · 22/02/2022 21:59

@Bananarama21 she's a real mix of both of us. I think her personality is like mine but his GF doesn't really know me so she wouldn't know this. DD apparently talks about me a lot when she's there though.

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Bananarama21 · 22/02/2022 22:01

I think the fact she speak about you is the constant reminder and feels threatened. If she doesn't like her and says she's awful to her I wouldn't put her in that situation.

Mackmama · 22/02/2022 22:13

I’m a step parent (I wasn’t the OW) and I get along mostly okay with my SD but if she didn’t want to see her dad because of me I’d be gutted and then I’d recognise that I’m not the most important person in this scenario and be encouraging DH to see his daughter without me in the hopes that one day she’d realise I’m not a monster and maybe come around a bit. I know that’s giving in, but in this scenario, I think it’s more important to protect the relationship between the child and her dad (and the step parent) than to make a stand and alienate her further. Just my view though.

Tattler2 · 23/02/2022 00:04

Sometimes, we have to suffer or experience the consequences of our actions if we do something that is considered by many to be socially /morally unacceptable, the typical outcome is that many people will have a less than favorable opinion of us.

It is unfortunate that your daughter discovered what she did about her father's behavior. Having made the discovery it is unrealistic to not permit the child to form her own opinion. You should be insisting that the child should without fail but polite in the same way that she would be polite to any adult. There should be no expectation that she must like this person. It is likely in her young man, that she associates the pain and disruption experienced in her home with this person. Young or old people typically do not feel particularly positive towards people who have caused pain to their loved ones. That is pretty normal response.

The daughter is not attempting to dictate to whom the father can or cannot see. She is trying in her youthful way to indicate that she does not want to be in this person' s company.

The father is not being at all sensitive to his daughter's feelings. Given time, maturity, and appropriate circumstances, her feelings may change, but just as the daughter cannot control her father's romantic interests so too he cannot control or dictate his daughter's feelings.

Sometimes, the cost of getting what you want may include losing some of what you had. In the case , he has the partner that he wants but the cost may be damage to his relationship with his daughter. It need not be that way, but it does not appear that he is willing to invest the time and sensitivity that may be required to work through this situation.

OP, the best thing that you can do for your daughter is to insist that she be polite and remind her that regardless of what happened between her parents , you both love her very much even when it is difficult for her to believe that.

Mylandnotyours · 23/02/2022 06:22

Jesus wept. The man has an affair, leaves the family home, introduces OW to children and expects them to be happy spending time with her but somehow it’s the OP’s fault that they are less than happy about the situation? OP should just smile and send her children against their will, telling them to suck it up? Maybe the father actually needs to take some fucking response for his actions and work this out, not the OP?

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