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New baby and can't bear my step kids around help!

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Mrscatbells · 28/03/2021 22:16

Just what the title says , new mum , new baby and trying to work it all out. I have found I've lost all patience with step kids aged 6 and 9 completely and just want to lock myself away with my baby and husband. I Dont say anything negative to them I am always nice and accommodating but inside I want to just yell that I want to be left alone. Their DM has just rang wanting more contact time over the holidays I could have a breakdown over it !!

I hate that I feel like this , but I just need to offload is this normal??? Will this feeling ever go away?

OP posts:
Lochmorlich · 29/03/2021 21:03

@wizzbangfizz are you being sarcastic?
His wife has just given birth after a complicated pregnancy. The dp has hardly 'been on holiday.'
Rather he has put his exhausted wife and newborn baby first.
Obviously it was very inconsiderate of the baby to be born 3 weeks before the school holidays began!
The ex needs to think of her own dc and their relationship with the new sibling. She can smooth their path or complicate things.
She probably feels very protective towards her dc atm, understandably but she's not helping them atm imo.

Youseethethingis · 29/03/2021 21:16

Basically there doesn't seem to be a step parent on here who actually loves their SDC and wants to spend time with them. Poor kids
I like when my DSD is around! 🤚
Probably because his ex and I are on friendly chit chat terms, we all help each other out and I’m not treated like a member of staff by DH.
I don’t love her though, you’ve got me there- that seed was ripped out the pot when her mother threw a tantrum and stopped contact a few years ago,DH had to get a solicitor etc. Etc. Once bitten and all that.

30scrisis · 29/03/2021 21:17

It's not your problem. Your 'D'H needs to deal with this. It's hard work having a newborn and three weeks old is nothing. However my DD'ss dad had his poor wife looking after our DD from two week after his wife having her first baby. I started work a month ago and have made it very clear that it is DD's dads responsibility to have our DD now, equally, in order for me to work. Ex P and wife have a 9
Month old baby now. I have facilitated another mans earning potential for 8 years, with the minimum of maintenance paid to me. His wife is great!! But it's not her responsibility. He won't do 50/50 with me so up to them. I'll force it. If she's not working then he obviously needs to work with more maintenance given to her and if he is then he'll have to work round school hours like she's had to. But it should never fall on you. Unless you're willing and able for it to.

wizzbangfizz · 29/03/2021 21:18

@Lochmorlich nope no sarcasm, during the planned paternity leave and extra weeks leave taken and the abundance of eggs everywhere providing a clue to the impending arrival of Easter and during the newborn phase, or even before the baby arrived I fail to see why a conversation about sorting his minimal parenting duties over Easter with his ex wife couldn't have been had in any of that time.

MrsHusky · 29/03/2021 21:33

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funinthesun19 · 29/03/2021 21:34

I think she wants you personally to look after them, and she knows you will if they go to your house. Or else she wouldn’t have sent you angry messages about “two innocent children being pushed out.”
All because you didn’t jump at the chance to look after her children after you’ve had a baby eh? I think she’s angry and threatened that your life doesn’t revolve around her kids.

Easterbunnygettingready · 29/03/2021 22:01

Maybe the poor woman just want confirmation the op actually cares about her dc... Wouldn't most biological parents want to know their dc are valued at the other parents home? Wouldn't we be pd off thinking our dc had been replaced by a new baby?
I had a dc on my dss's birthday.. 2 days later we all went to a big shopping centre to let dss spend his birthday money. Bf a newborn in McDonald's wasn't my ideal trip out but it was important dss didn't feel shoved out.

dontdisturbmenow · 29/03/2021 22:04

It's not your problem. Your 'D'H needs to deal with this
This and this again. Why would anyone see him as a victim?

He works and can't look after his kids during HIS week? Welcome to parenting of school age children! What do working parents do? They plan and find solutions. They don't assume that someone else is going to sort out the issue for them because they don't want to deal with it.

OP shouldn't have to look after them, newborn or not. She found if she wanted to but in no way should it be taken for granted....by HIM. Just like it is not his responsibility to sort out arrangements at other times.

Of course, in a perfect world, when both parents remain amicable, some flexibility can be considered, but in the instance of conflict, it is clearly not going to happen so relying on it is denying one's responsibility.

This is it about the kids feeling rejected, not over an exceptional week not seeing their dad. It's not about OP role towards the kids, it is purely and simply about a dad who can't take responsibility for his kids and instead taking the easy option of expecting his partner or his ex to pick up the pieces.

TrustTheGeneGenie · 29/03/2021 22:05

@Easterbunnygettingready

Maybe the poor woman just want confirmation the op actually cares about her dc... Wouldn't most biological parents want to know their dc are valued at the other parents home? Wouldn't we be pd off thinking our dc had been replaced by a new baby? I had a dc on my dss's birthday.. 2 days later we all went to a big shopping centre to let dss spend his birthday money. Bf a newborn in McDonald's wasn't my ideal trip out but it was important dss didn't feel shoved out.
Ah yes, and the poor woman showed that by sending her abusive texts. Poor woman.

Are you joking?!

funinthesun19 · 29/03/2021 22:07

Fishing for confirmation is just looking for trouble though. I’m sure the op does care about the stepchildren, but the mum needs to understand that the op won’t always say how high when the mum says jump. And the op is going to love her baby more which is just natural.
I don’t think there is any “poor mum” about it. All this talk about children being replaced just shows off people’s insecurities. No child is being replaced.

dontdisturbmenow · 29/03/2021 22:12

To be fair, re-reading OP's posts, it's not really clear what the usual arrangements are. OP says mum has asked for more contact time over the holidays. It's not clear whether normality is no holiday at all, so any time during hols is a flexible arrangement, although this is odd especially when dad had the kids 50/50 for 2 months. Or whether they come to him and OP one week but she's asked for more, which again doesn't make much sense if she's going on about them not being left out.

Easterbunnygettingready · 29/03/2021 22:13

Feeling pissed off and frustrated makes us angry!!

TrustTheGeneGenie · 29/03/2021 22:15

@Easterbunnygettingready

Feeling pissed off and frustrated makes us angry!!
Yeah that doesn't make abuse okay does it.
MrsHusky · 29/03/2021 22:19

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haggistramp · 29/03/2021 22:26

Piss off with the mum (ex) should just do it. If dh was supposed to have them he needs to arrange childcare for his children when he has them be that himself, his own willing family members or formal childcare. Just because the mum doesn't work doesn't make her unpaid skivvy for her ex partner when he decides he can't be arsed parenting. Perhaps she has her own plans made for the week she is child free. Absolutely op shouldn't be looking after them, but if dh can't adequately juggle 3 children when he barely has 2 of them, quite frankly he shouldn't have had the 3rd. As mn says, it's a dh problem.

rjacksmiss · 29/03/2021 22:29

Her arse has been well and truly bumped out of place here. She sounds jealous. Which is quite sad. I'd feel sorry for her and just try enjoy your time with your new baby! Hope you feel better soon xxx

PurpleBiro21 · 29/03/2021 22:31

@funinthesun19

I think she wants you personally to look after them, and she knows you will if they go to your house. Or else she wouldn’t have sent you angry messages about “two innocent children being pushed out.” All because you didn’t jump at the chance to look after her children after you’ve had a baby eh? I think she’s angry and threatened that your life doesn’t revolve around her kids.
If IF that’s the case, mum is unreasonable in that but dad started the chain reaction as OP says holidays are normally 50:50

Mum should not be abusing the SM but it’s dad who has let his children down.

rjacksmiss · 29/03/2021 22:32

@haggistramp

Piss off with the mum (ex) should just do it. If dh was supposed to have them he needs to arrange childcare for his children when he has them be that himself, his own willing family members or formal childcare. Just because the mum doesn't work doesn't make her unpaid skivvy for her ex partner when he decides he can't be arsed parenting. Perhaps she has her own plans made for the week she is child free. Absolutely op shouldn't be looking after them, but if dh can't adequately juggle 3 children when he barely has 2 of them, quite frankly he shouldn't have had the 3rd. As mn says, it's a dh problem.
She's thrown a massive temper tantrum because she won't get a week off? Behave. It's difficult circumstances.
DuggyOnDown · 29/03/2021 22:43

@Easterbunnygettingready

Maybe the poor woman just want confirmation the op actually cares about her dc... Wouldn't most biological parents want to know their dc are valued at the other parents home? Wouldn't we be pd off thinking our dc had been replaced by a new baby? I had a dc on my dss's birthday.. 2 days later we all went to a big shopping centre to let dss spend his birthday money. Bf a newborn in McDonald's wasn't my ideal trip out but it was important dss didn't feel shoved out.
Yes obviously the way to do that is be abusivr toward and harass another woman... Hmm I think you are actually far more likely to breed the opposite outcome if you act this way toward your children's step mother, far more likely to build resentment than love. Completely counter productive.

The way I see this thread is basically....

OP is not responsible for her SC in the sense that she does not need to concern herself with their school holiday arrangements, it's for her husband and his ex. She is not responsible for rationing his annual leave and ensuring he has enough, that's for him to do, he is a grown up.

Her DH is unreasonable for not considering his existing children and discussing with his ex how school holidays would work. However I do agree with posters that whilst it's not exactly fair, it doesn't seem in the best interests of the children to have them placed in a holiday club or elsewhere by their father when their mother is literally at home. However annoyed at my ex I was, I would not feel comfortable leaving my kids to go off to a holiday club when I was available to care for them. I think it's odd that so many people have suggested that tbh. Doesn't make DH any less unreasonable but you can't literally force him to take the time off work so if it was the difference between a holiday club or forcing them on a frazzled, exhausted step mother, I'd much rather (and so would the kids let's be honest), that they be with me their Mum.

When posters say 'its not your problem', I don't see what is so unreasonable about that? If someone posted a thread as a mother saying that their children's step mother was trying to involve herself in the arrangements she was trying to make with her ex about the care of their children over the school holidays everyone would agree that she should back off, stop getting involved, nothing to do with her, between mum and dad etc... It really does seem on these threads that people are only ever shocked and appalled that someone would say 'not my problem' when it's something that benefits the parents, when it suits. I find that really annoying. There are so many occasions where parents would be really fucked off if a step parent tried to make it 'their problem'. You can't have it both ways.

To the poster who said there doesn't seem to be any step parents who like their DSC. I do. They are nice kids, we get along really well. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I do not love them in the same way as my son. He is my entire world, they are part of my life, nice parts, but they aren't my life in the way my DC is. I don't miss them when they aren't here although I don't dislike them being here either. I'm completely middle ground I feel. I don't see what the problem with that is. I'm not responsible for my step children, they have two parents like all children who literally have responsibility for them. I am kind and welcoming and there have been times where I've done lots for them when their parents have needed a hand but I do not accept that it's my responsibility to do so simply because I'm married to their Dad.

I also think a good relationship with the ex is really important in making sure things work out well. Honestly I'd not be doing a single favour for a woman who sent me abusive messages when I'd just had a baby. Not a chance. And honestly the drama and stress it would cause having to deal with that probably would make me wish DSC weren't around. Of course someone who has to deal with an ex like that is going to think it would be easier if the kids weren't there!

There are bad step mother's and there are bad exes. And I do think some exes need to realise that the way they act can have a really detrimental effect on how someone else will view their children. We are all human, it's not the children's fault at all, but you are going to start resenting the fact that they bring such drama to your life if their mother acts like an idiot toward you.

I actually do think my DSCs mother can be a bit difficult with DH sometimes but I don't get involved in that. She has never said a bad word to me and that's what I'm personally bothered about. DHs and her co parenting relationship is theirs, he's a big boy and can stand up for himself, as long as she is not an arse to me then I'm quite happy. We actually get along really well and I can't explain how important that has been in building the relationship I have with the DSC.

Youseethethingis · 29/03/2021 22:51

@DuggyOnDown
Amen to that!

Tiredoftattler · 29/03/2021 23:57

@funinthesun19

The issue is not the children feeling "replaced ". They probably already feel " replaced " by whatever occupies dad's time now that they no longer see him on a regular basis.

It is likely now that they will feel " displaced " by the arrival of a new sibling that eats into the little time that they had in a home in which they are at best " tolerated.. "

They see their dad EOW. EOW is an artificial time parameter devised by the court system in order to effect a calendar decision that works for adults who are themselves incapable of agreeing on ways to make a decision that is in the best interest of their children.

EOW was not calibrated to meet any childhood needs . Ironically in many court petitions it is referred to as "visitation" as though any child should ever have to think that they are visiting their father in what should be their home.

The ex was totally inappropriate in sending nasty messages to the OP. It is not the OP's job to manage her husband's child care arrangements.

On the other hand it is perfectly understandable to be annoyed with a father who chooses to have 3 children and yet cannot on his own manage the logistical care for his 3 children.

The ex had no obligation to manage the logistics for the OP's husband; in fact, she had every right to think that the adult father of her children should have been capable of making adequate arrangements to have his children and at the same time meet his obligations in his current household. That is something that anyone who claims to be an adult should be capable of doing.

If I were the OP, I would question the wisdom of ever trusting my child to the care of my husband in situations that call for good decision making. Nothing about this process as described suggests that OP's husband can be relied upon to follow through in making good decisions or meeting his articulated responsibilities.

OP, her child, the ex and the step children will be better served by becoming independent thinkers and wise decision makers in the own rights rather than relying on this husband/father.

Willyoujustbequiet · 30/03/2021 00:14

Your DH needs to step up and parent all his children. EOW is barely anything. They are his responsibility as much as the ex.

If he couldn't deal he should have thought of that before he had another child.

Tiredoftattler · 30/03/2021 01:22

An interesting aside to this thought provoking situation is how much the OP and the ex have in common.

Both women chose to become involved with a man who seems incapable of making appropriate decisions and managing his personal responsibilities. Both women chose to have children with him, and when things go south because of his failure to handle the situations adequately , both women choose to blame the other woman rather than placing the blame where it truly belongs.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 30/03/2021 05:32

[quote PandaFluff]@Chicchicchicchiclana so you've decided to post on the step parenting board why? I don't have a teenager but maybe I'll go over to that board and judge them.[/quote]
I cannot for the life of me understand the relevance of your comment about teenagers.

I have experience of step parents and second families in my own family. If that's relevant. But this isn't a private board on a private site ... I can comment where I like!

Chicchicchicchiclana · 30/03/2021 05:38

[quote Tiredoftattler]@funinthesun19

The issue is not the children feeling "replaced ". They probably already feel " replaced " by whatever occupies dad's time now that they no longer see him on a regular basis.

It is likely now that they will feel " displaced " by the arrival of a new sibling that eats into the little time that they had in a home in which they are at best " tolerated.. "

They see their dad EOW. EOW is an artificial time parameter devised by the court system in order to effect a calendar decision that works for adults who are themselves incapable of agreeing on ways to make a decision that is in the best interest of their children.

EOW was not calibrated to meet any childhood needs . Ironically in many court petitions it is referred to as "visitation" as though any child should ever have to think that they are visiting their father in what should be their home.

The ex was totally inappropriate in sending nasty messages to the OP. It is not the OP's job to manage her husband's child care arrangements.

On the other hand it is perfectly understandable to be annoyed with a father who chooses to have 3 children and yet cannot on his own manage the logistical care for his 3 children.

The ex had no obligation to manage the logistics for the OP's husband; in fact, she had every right to think that the adult father of her children should have been capable of making adequate arrangements to have his children and at the same time meet his obligations in his current household. That is something that anyone who claims to be an adult should be capable of doing.

If I were the OP, I would question the wisdom of ever trusting my child to the care of my husband in situations that call for good decision making. Nothing about this process as described suggests that OP's husband can be relied upon to follow through in making good decisions or meeting his articulated responsibilities.

OP, her child, the ex and the step children will be better served by becoming independent thinkers and wise decision makers in the own rights rather than relying on this husband/father.[/quote]
Excellent post, completely agree. These children barely see their father as it is.

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