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I'm a wicked step mother because...

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FleaBagLarry · 23/11/2020 17:47

There have been a few refreshing threads on here recently where some of us have been a bit more honest about how we actually feel!

In light of this, in what ways are you the stereotypical 'evil step mother'? Grin

It got me thinking before, in my case, I'm the evil step mother because my DSC are isolating for 2 weeks and as much as we get on, I'm bloody enjoying the break! I'm looking forward to it being over for DHs sake but for me selfishly, it's been quite nice having a couple of weeks to ourselves. (We usually have the DC 50:50).

I know it's absolutely appalling that I haven't been sat in a darkened room sobbing the entire time! So shoot me 🤷

No one has Covid, no one is ill, just isolating before anyone suggests I don't care they are poorly.

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MyGodImSoYoung · 05/12/2020 08:45

For those of you who have jumped on a perfectly healthy thread for SMs to vent, it is very clear to me in my relationships with my DSC why the problems are caused.

Two SC, each with different mothers. DSC1 has a mother who never slags me off, hasn't had a moan about me to DP, makes sure DSC communicates with me if a plan is changing that I am involved with. I have an amazing relationship with my DSC and we get on like a house on fire.

DSC2 has a mother who doesn't want me to join in anything to do with said SC. She doesn't want me at her sporting events, to support her with school, so live in the same house as her. If I have a lovely time with DSC, the next visit is often shit because her DM has reminded her that I'm no one and that her loyalty should be with her DM. And yes, I do actually know this because DSC will ask me questions beginning with 'Mummy wants me to ask you...' or 'Why does Mummy keep asking me such and such about you?'. She got upset once and asked us why her DM keeps pressing her to find out things about me. It is very clear that I am not the issue for DSC, but that she wants to make her DM happy, which in turn means I frequently have to put up with attitude, fake tears, and a lot of territory pissing!

Whilst I'm sure I don't get step parenting right all of the time, I give it a bloody good go when the odds are stacked against me.

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 09:51

DSD2 (21) once spat in food I had prepared for a dinner party.

A 21 year old adult spat in food you had prepared? The behaviour of some people disgusts me!

KumquatSalad · 05/12/2020 10:43

I always say that if the dad of the child doesn’t make one thousand percent effort in the blended family that he at one point decided he wanted to have, then his partner/wife really doesn’t stand a chance at being a happy stepmum. Think about that.

Absolutely. You cannot possibly succeed when you partner - the DSC’s parent - allows their children to behave badly. Makes excuses for it. Even encourages it by undermining you.

Plus the loyalty bond issues caused by bitter exes (of either sex).

The fact is that neither of my DSC are very likeable children. I’ve worked with loads of children. Some are extremely easy to like, others much less so. My DSC fall on the bloody hard work with little to make up for it end of the likeability spectrum. Their father finds them hard work too (but he loves them, which helps him through).

They’re not ‘barely tolerated’ in the house. 🙄 I am polite and fair and kind, much like I would be with children I was working with (except in that situation I’d have more control and ability to work on their behaviour). I cook them nice meals (I made pancakes for breakfast this morning). I make cakes (which they turn their noses up at and ask for chocolate instead). I drove to two different argos stores on Monday (at opposite ends of the city) to get them nice advent calendars because their father hadn’t done it (and I didn’t want them to be left out when my son has one). It was me last night suggesting that we buy them a Nintendo switch to share at Christmas (a much bigger present than my DSes will get - and despite them both having behaved dreadfully all afternoon and evening). It’s me that finds nice things to do with them and books days out or activities they’ll enjoy (in fact, I did suggest a local football club for DSS over the next 3 weekends, but their mother won’t take him on her weekend in the middle - so it’s hardly me ruining their fun).

I do all sorts of things to make their time here nice. But, I will often remove myself from their company because their behaviour is intolerable. I take myself away and let them have time with their father instead. I don’t even take the credit for all the things I do (they neither know nor care that I got them their advent calendars). DSS threw a tantrum over the calendars anyway because he wanted the stuff from his sister’s calendar.

The DSC have been here less than 24 hours (much of which time they’ve been asleep) and so far we’ve had them both arriving with the usual big performance of tears and screaming on the doorstep, which their mother encourages. Continual fighting and screaming all yesterday afternoon despite being asked to be quiet and nice to each other. Temper tantrums at dinner and breakfast. DSD lying to try to get me into trouble with DH. The usual general rudeness and ungratefulness. DSD ignoring me when I said her dad wanted her to get out the shower (after 40 minutes). All followed with lists of demands for all the things they want and ways in which things aren’t good enough for them.

This is standard for every time they’re here. It’s not something that anyone could reasonably look forward to, and certainly not going to endear the DSC to anyone. If they were my children, they’d not get any of the nice things they get until their behaviour improved. But they’re not my children, so they throw temper tantrums and then are allowed to play video games or taken out somewhere special. And, obviously, there’s no incentive for them to behave better. But it’s not up to me. I’m just the wicked stepmother whatever I do.

So people should save their tears for situations that deserve them.

Mintjulia · 05/12/2020 10:50

@louj85. I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks so. The level of hatred really shook me.

Now DS and I live in a cheerful sane little bubble and things like that don't happen. Life is much better Smile

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 10:50

@KumquatSalad

You deserve a medal for your patience and kindness! I'd have sacked those unappreciated efforts off a long time ago.

KumquatSalad · 05/12/2020 11:07

[quote LouJ85]@KumquatSalad

You deserve a medal for your patience and kindness! I'd have sacked those unappreciated efforts off a long time ago. [/quote]
Well, I think my continued efforts are probably quite representative of the unappreciated efforts of many evil stepmums.

And I continue to do it because I do recognise that they are children and, even if they are not hugely likeable, I do want DH to be able to have as good a relationship with them as possible.

And I do understand why he ends up being so bloody permissive (fear of the ex withdrawing contact, feeling he has to make the most of limited time, failure to understand that they aren’t babies and do understand what they’re doing, etc). I don’t agree with it, and I think a shift to more boundaries would actually improve life for the DSC (as well as everyone else) but I understand what’s going on there.

So I do often just leave him to it. And then he complains about his rude and demanding they are. And how they don’t give a shit if they’re told off for anything. But they’re his kids. 🤷🏻‍♀️

itsovernowthen · 05/12/2020 11:12

All of that and more at our house @KumquatSalad, you have the patience of a saint!

When DSS11 complained to his DM that I'd asked him to wash up his plate, instead of supporting me, DP told me to "look at my role in the situation, and examine why DSS was upset" Confused

itsovernowthen · 05/12/2020 11:12

Should have added he is now EXDP, and I'll be moving on from him shortly!

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 11:16

@KumquatSalad @itsovernowthen

Your posts have reinforced for me why I no longer have any active step parenting role whatsoever! In our house I'd quietly nudge DP and say "s/he needs to wash plate/ turn that down/ get ready to go out..." etc, if he wasn't already on top of it. Then he steps in and will be the only "voice of authority" they hear (which represents my views as well as his). I'm generally just cheerleading DP from the sidelines where necessary (which isn't often). All they see from me is a polite hello, how are you, etc. I literally couldn't do it any other way, I'd lose my sanity.

KumquatSalad · 05/12/2020 11:49

@itsovernowthen

All of that and more at our house *@KumquatSalad*, you have the patience of a saint!

When DSS11 complained to his DM that I'd asked him to wash up his plate, instead of supporting me, DP told me to "look at my role in the situation, and examine why DSS was upset" Confused

Tbh, I got really cross with DH at dinner last night. DSD won’t use cutlery properly. It annoys DH. At one point she put a bit of food in her mouth and held it between her teeth. Then she was holding her knife and fork up to (in) her mouth and trying to cut the food.

That’s just plain dangerous (as well as disgusting to look at). So I told her off. DH (as usual) wasn’t paying attention. He asked her if she’d tried to cut food inside her mouth. She lied and said she didn’t do that. All big ‘innocent’ eyes and fake shock that anyone would say she’d done anything wrong. He basically took her word for it and even implied that I was lying. DSD then shot me her usual ‘fuck you. I won’ look.

So I was really pissed off at HIM for clearly telling her that she can lie and manipulate and I’ll be the bad guy. When actually I don’t want her to cut her face because she’s being stupid.

But hey, only an evil SM would dare to question DSD.

Thing is, I just expect this of her. It’s not a surprise. It’s his attitude that bothers me. I understand that he hates telling his kids off (and he feels bad when they cry - which they do because they know full well how it affects him).

But I’ll keep doing the decent thing by them, even though they’re totally ungrateful. I’d have been an evil SM if I’d watched DSD cut herself last night and said nothing. And I’m an evil SM for having stopped her. There’s no way to win. But at least I can hold my head up and say I tried to do the right thing (cooking a nice dinner, giving a shit about whether she cuts herself) regardless.

sassbott · 05/12/2020 11:57

I honestly don’t know how some of you are tolerating these behaviours. I’m genuinely shell shocked. What is wrong with people? And children to be blunt. Past a certain age, children know exactly what they are doing.

itsovernowthen · 05/12/2020 12:43

[quote LouJ85]**@KumquatSalad* @itsovernowthen*

Your posts have reinforced for me why I no longer have any active step parenting role whatsoever! In our house I'd quietly nudge DP and say "s/he needs to wash plate/ turn that down/ get ready to go out..." etc, if he wasn't already on top of it. Then he steps in and will be the only "voice of authority" they hear (which represents my views as well as his). I'm generally just cheerleading DP from the sidelines where necessary (which isn't often). All they see from me is a polite hello, how are you, etc. I literally couldn't do it any other way, I'd lose my sanity. [/quote]

That's exactly what's needed in blended family situations @LouJ85, a DH/DP who supports you, whether that's by reinforcing your authority, or being the one to actually discipline his DC if you've noticed something.

One of my pet hates is DSS11 weeing on the floor when he goes to the loo, and leaving it there. I used to make DSS go back and clean it up every single time, until DP became unhappy that I was "nagging DSS". We are waiting to split assets, so I still have to endure DSS doing this EOW. DP either pretends not to notice, or blames DS4, who funnily enough never wees on the floor, because I've taught him it's not acceptable. DP says I only say it's not DS4 because I gave birth to him (DS4 is also DP's DS) Hmm

Christmashottubintheshed · 05/12/2020 12:47

This all just sounds so hard on all of you. Particularly those of you who have new children who aren’t the “firsts” with a dh who has already raised a family and are still competing / arguing with the ex over the other kids. Some of the dc don’t sound particularly happy or well adjusted either, I just don’t see the appeal in taking up with a guy who already has kids. Even in the first flushes surely you still know the reality of day to day life with them isn’t going to be great going forward, split weekends and tensions, it just wouldn’t be for me, fair play to some of you!

KumquatSalad · 05/12/2020 13:02

DSS had a period of shitting on the floor and hiding it behind the toilet. The toilet started to stink.

DH tried to say I was being unfair in blaming DSS and it could be my (then) 10 year old. Even when I pointed out that the shit was like rabbit droppings because DSS is always constipated (because his diet is terrible) he wouldn’t accept that it was clearly DSS. Apparently I’m biased. 🙄

He just finds it hard to accept that his children, who he loves, are often disgusting and unpleasant. Whereas I am on top of DS’s disgusting prepubescent ways.

Today isn’t going any better. DSS has shouted at DS for doing the hoovering (and disturbing his tv watching). Both DSS and DSD are being incredibly demanding. They’re currently fighting over who goes first on the computer, which they demanded to use. Tbh, I find it deeply unattractive when he accepts the way they talk to him.

There’s no way I’d respond to ‘I want to play on the computer!’ (DSD’s demand from 2 minutes ago, made when her father said he needed to go and do something) by getting my laptop out and asking him what game her wants to play. I wouldn’t respond to DS shouting ‘what about my drink?’ by getting him a drink (and even apologising for not having done so sooner). This was DSS about 15 minutes ago. I hear constant demands like this, all day long.

He wouldn’t accept it if I spoke to him like that. I don’t care that they’re just mimicking what they see in their mother. HE is raising obnoxious, rude children just as much as she is. They’re here 1/3 of the time (and 1/2 the school holidays) so it’s not like he has no influence.

But I can’t do anything about it. So I’m leaving him to it. I’ll make my sons ask properly and wait til people are ready. And I won’t offer any sympathy when DH complains he’s exhausted and sick of being subject to constant demands.

itsovernowthen · 05/12/2020 13:06

I just don't see the appeal in taking up with a guy who already has kids.

I** wish I'd known this 7 years ago, when I met DP at the age of 33. I thought it would only be stressful if his EXDW was high conflict already...I didn't realise she'd become that way when we first moved in together 6 years ago. After a year together, I was already invested, and the rest is history.

I will advise both my DC when they grow up to steer clear of romantic relationships with people who have young DC already. It's such a difficult situation to manage, especially as a DSM, who regularly gets thrown under the bus because DP doesn't want to be the bad guy.

KumquatSalad · 05/12/2020 13:09

Note: I was nice about DSS being the culprit of poo-gate. He was 3 at the time and I merely said it was obviously him and DH should talk to him about it and find out if he was embarrassed about having accidents.

I was even extremely diplomatic about the fact I think it’s a symptom of bigger psychological issues brewing that could be addressed.

But, you know, evil stepmothers. Clearly I’m just out to get the DSC. 🤷🏻‍♀️

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 14:55

Even in the first flushes surely you still know the reality of day to day life with them isn’t going to be great going forward

That's like saying "surely you know when you plant to become pregnant with your own child exactly what the day to day reality is going to be" or "surely when you agreed to marry him you knew the day to day reality "... etc.

Nope. Don't know about anyone else but I'm yet to perfect my crystal ball technique for any situation in my life. Step parenting or otherwise.

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 14:55

*plan, not plant

Hellotheresweet · 05/12/2020 16:54

* That's like saying "surely you know when you plant to become pregnant with your own child exactly what the day to day reality is going to be*

This example doesn’t stack up. An unborn child is an unknown.
A step child isn’t
Nor is the ex

sassbott · 05/12/2020 17:21

@Hellotheresweet you’ve been asked politely before. Please go and start your own thread if you have a specific question. After 3 pages you’re back and with a similar line of questioning.

Posters have already addressed this with you. Are you being deliberately goady? Because it appears so.

How many times do people need to explain. Children are unknowns. As are exes. As indeed are partners. There are many factors that can flip any of the aforementioned from ‘this could work’, to ‘holy mother of god. Who just flipped the b*tch switch.’

The above has been repeatedly explained to you.

So let me ask you a question in turn. What is your expertise / experience re step parenting?

Hellotheresweet · 05/12/2020 17:26

I thanked people for their response which really enlightened me

All I’m saying is that this one particular example surely doesn’t work. But I am completely open to it not being wrong!

Hellotheresweet · 05/12/2020 17:27

* Children are unknowns. As are exes. As indeed are partners.*

Not quite the same as a foetus, surely!

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 17:27

This example doesn’t stack up. An unborn child is an unknown.
A step child isn’t
Nor is the ex

What a ludicrously stupid thing to say. Of course they are unknown to the new partner! "The ex" is a new boyfriend and new relationship, and his children are completely unknown to you before you get involved!

Am I on a different planet here? 😂

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 17:29

Not quite the same as a foetus, surely!

What on Earth has a foetus versus a child who is already born got to do with it? In both cases, they are unknowns to the person who is not involved with them. Just because the stepkids already exist in the world, they haven't yet existed in the life of the new partner, have they?!

LouJ85 · 05/12/2020 17:30

@sassbott

Glad it's not just me! Thought I was losing the plot there for a second.

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