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What to do when money is being spent on SCs?

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SpongebobNoPants · 05/10/2020 11:03

DP and I have serious concerns that the money we provide for my stepchildren isn’t being spent on them and their DM is using it to fund her social life.
Before anyone jumps down my throat I was a single parent for 10 years and I’m fully aware of the struggles this can bring financially however we seem to be giving more and more money to DP’s Ex and the SCs seem no better off for it which is causing concern. Whilst their DMs social life is flourishing.
Just to add when I say she is out a lot I mean every single weekend and she doesn’t work (through choice) so it’s becoming obvious she is funding her lifestyle through benefits (no judgement here as I’ve been there myself!) and it appears extras from DP which is where my grievance lies.

DP pays maintenance in accordance with the calculated CMS amount (£440 pcm), and on top of that we give money for any extras that may be needed.

We pay for their phone bills, bus passes for school, school dinners, all haircuts, pocket money, extra clothes they may need / want, glasses, give them lifts everywhere they need to go - just so you get the picture. The kids are not hard done by and we are very generous with his Ex and never quibble if extra is asked for.

However, recently it seems the extra money that is requested and subsequently paid to his ex is not being spent on what it was intended for.
In the last 2 months we’ve forked out £230 for bus passes and £250 for the youngest SC’s school uniform (starting secondary school).

But the bus passes haven’t been ordered which means the SCs aren’t now guaranteed a place on their school bus. Every morning they have to queue up at the stop and the kids with bus passes take priority meaning some days they’ve had to walk home, rouse their mum and then get her to take them to school which makes them late.

Also the youngest SD has no told us she has only 1 school jumper and 1 school skirt - both non-brand, non-logo items which can easily be picked up from a supermarket or online shop. Mum has bought the cheapest shoes and bag for school from primark also. Blazer was £26, pe kit was a bundle deal for £22 also.
Eldest SD only needed new school shirts (3 pack for £12) and has some shoes from new look which were £20.
So we’re left wondering where the rest of the money has gone? It certainly hasn’t been spent on the kids uniforms?

Also the youngest’s phone broke so DP was asked to pay half towards a replacement, around £100 which he happily did. Then his DD let slip that it actually only cost £80 so her DM paid nothing towards it and pocketed the extra herself.

So in total in the last 8 weeks DP’s Ex has had in cash more than £680 for things for the kids and only around £230 seems to be have been spent on them.

Eldest needed some new trainers for PE, DP handed over £60 last week and she’s still wearing the old ones.

DP’s Ex is now asking for more money towards the eldest’s school coat.

Their DM doesn’t seem to be struggling for money either. They live in a nice home and she has a good social life - she’s always out for dinner and in bars with her friends.

How does DP broach this with her? I think the best way forward would to only give his ex the CMS amount each month but then he personally sorts out or buys whatever they need himself because it doesn’t seem to be materialising from their DM.

This will no doubt cause a massive shit storm but I think it’s probably the only way forward.

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SpongebobNoPants · 05/10/2020 11:07

Sorry my title is meant to say when money isn’t being spent on the SCs

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LastGoldenDaysOfSummer · 05/10/2020 11:08

Stop providing extra money and give the basic minimum. Buy the extras yourselves then you know it's for the DCs.

Findahouse21 · 05/10/2020 11:10

It sounds like the children are old enough to choose their own things eg shoes, so just go shopping when they're with you

PrayingandHoping · 05/10/2020 11:10

Yep I agree u only give the CMS and then buy all the children's extras yourselves.

lunar1 · 05/10/2020 11:12

I agree with the other posters, take them yourselves for whatever they need. Put their name in the clothes and shoes so they can't be returned. Next time the bus passes are due order them yourselves.

Scbchl · 05/10/2020 11:16

Just dont give her it. Purchase the extra stuff yourself. I dont think that's in anyway unreasonable. Your husband can just say to her why when have I given you money for the bus pass (for instance) do they now not have one and its affecting them getting to school. From now on any extras that are needed we will purchase and only pay maintenance. Sounds like shes ripping the piss.

SpongebobNoPants · 05/10/2020 11:26

It’s nice to know we’re not being unreasonable here.
I’ve been a single parent myself and know how hard it can be so at many points in our relationship I’ve been DP’s ex’s advocate and encouraged him to be generous (not that I really needed to, he’d never see his kids struggling) and I even encouraged him to give her more money than he originally planned because I said it’s hard having to fork up big expenses... but then she bought them the bare minimum Sad
I feel sad about it all. I literally cannot defend her anymore

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Quartz2208 · 05/10/2020 11:29

Yes I think you stop giving her anything above the CM and do all the other stuff direct.

So if she says DSD needs new trainers and you are happy to buy them buy them

Mamagotskills · 05/10/2020 11:31

I was totally about to say YABU unreasonable and have no right to question what maintenance is spent on but actually YANBU at all, I’d stop giving any extras and just buy whatever is needed to give directly to the children

Floralnomad · 05/10/2020 11:37

Agree with everybody else , just pay her the agreed maintenance and anything else organise it yourself or when your partner has the children . Do not give money directly to the children for clothes etc as they may well just hand it to their mum .

supoort · 05/10/2020 11:39

Agree with others that stop giving extras, just pay the csa amount. But I just want to point out maintenance isn't just for uniforms and things the kids want and need, it's also to go towards bills, rent/mortgage that keeps a roof over their head..

CamillasHardHat · 05/10/2020 11:44

My friend's Mum did this, her Dad would literally hand wads of cash into her Mum's hand for whatever she claimed her DD needed, a new school coat or new trainers and the coat and trainers never materialised. She could see through all of her Mum's bullshit but couldn't move into her Dad's as he lived in the country and her Mum refused to let her move schools. The commute would have been ridiculous so she stuck it out.

In the end her Dad just bought anything my friend needed. Paid CMS as he always did but took the cash element away.

My friend got a job at 16 and moved into a studio flat. It was heartbreaking.

movingonup20 · 05/10/2020 11:57

The answer is partly to purchase uniform, school buses, school lunches etc directly yourselves, give the dc pocket money direct and take them shopping for clothes. This can all be deducted from maintenance. Give their dm directly money appropriate for living costs and food at home only

im5050 · 05/10/2020 11:58

Just pay the agreed amount and buy any extras for the kids yourself
So if they need new shoes tops clothes stuff you buy it for them directly
It’s what my husband did. Ex wife did kick up a stink about which only confirmed what we thought was that the extra m money wasn’t going on the kids . But financing her social life

Disfordarkchocolate · 05/10/2020 12:02

Next time buy items instead of giving money. There is nothing to stop you paying for bus passes or uniform directly.

COS2102 · 05/10/2020 12:03

Just to agree with everyone else....stop handing over the money. When she says it is for something specific then your husband goes out and sorts it for himself. Buy the PE trainers and hand them over. Buy the school coat. Buy the things yourself so that the children are getting what they need. Not a chance we would be handing money over...we always buy the things ourselves so we know that it has been done. That is not an unreasonable thing to be doing in the slightest!

Chewbecca · 05/10/2020 12:04

Don't go there with the socializing comments, it's nothing to do with you.

But what is to do with you is providing money for a bus pass which is not then bought. However, your DH really should order the pass himself, not just give the money for it. So in future, if additional items are needed, fund and purchase them yourselves with the DC directly, instead of using their mum as the middle man.

ShinyGreenElephant · 05/10/2020 12:14

Totally agree, buy things yourselves. We have similar issues with DSDs mum. We offered to pay for a gymnastics club for DSD (trying to encourage hobbies as she is just screen obsessed), and paid for it for just under 6 months before she let it slip that she'd only been to the free taster session and didn't like it. Her mum had just been keeping the money. She also constantly turns up to ours in clothes that don't fit, without any underwear etc - we used to buy loads for her to take home but 2 weeks later she would turn up again with no socks and a jumper 3 sizes too small with a hole in. So now we keep stuff for her here as much as possible, she tries to sneak it into her bag to take home, we take it back out. Exhausting. We bought her school uniform and gave mum £50 for the branded jumpers because the school is over 100 miles away from us - of course she's bought her one asda jumper for about £5 and kept the rest. One year she returned the Clarks school shoes we bought her, replaced them with a primark version and pocketed the £45 difference.

The whole thing is just alien to me as I would give my last penny to my kids, even when I was a single mum and a student and on my arse skint I never would have behaved like that.

SpongebobNoPants · 05/10/2020 12:54

Agree with others that stop giving extras, just pay the csa amount. But I just want to point out maintenance isn't just for uniforms and things the kids want and need, it's also to go towards bills, rent/mortgage that keeps a roof over their head

You’ve misunderstood. The maintenance is towards bills, rent etc I’m not disputing that.
What I’m saying is all the extra money we are giving her on top of maintenance for specific things for the children is nog being spent on the children.
For example if we give her £250 for uniform costs then we expect that £250 to be spent on their uniform so they have enough items and good quality items. The problem is that she seems to not be spending the extra money on the kids and it appears she’s either spending on herself or squirrelling it into her own bank account.

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SpongebobNoPants · 05/10/2020 13:01

@ShinyGreenElephant that is exactly what’s happening here. It’s so sad.

Don't go there with the socializing comments, it's nothing to do with you
As a general principle yes. But in this situation I disagree that its nothing to do with us. When she’s saying she doesn’t have enough money to buy the kids XYZ so we hand over cash for it, it doesn’t get spent on those items but she is miraculously able to afford to go to the pub a couple of times w week and out for dinner with her friends... it does raise questions about where age is appropriating the money we give for the children.
It is so very clearly being spent on her social life - even if she’s putting the extra towards her bills so she can afford to use her own money to go out then we are still indirectly funding her social life.

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MeridianB · 05/10/2020 13:05

Yup, buy uniform, clothes, shoes yourself and ensure tags are off and name tapes added. Buy the bus pass from the school direct.

She will have a big wake up call when the children are older and the cash stops coming to her.

justanotherneighinparadise · 05/10/2020 13:06

Do you feel like she might have a drink or drug problem OP? I couldn’t work out plug you were inferring this or not.

justanotherneighinparadise · 05/10/2020 13:07

‘If’ not ‘plug’

user1493413286 · 05/10/2020 13:11

DH provides the correct amount of maintenance and if DSD needs something extra then he buys it directly rather than give the money. Unfortunately there’s been occasions when he’s given money for things like ballet lessons that never happened or school trips that turned out to be half the cost stated so rather than get into an argument about it DH just started saying to his ex to send him the link to websites or let him know what is needed and he’d take DSD to get it.

TazMac · 05/10/2020 13:20

We’ve had the same issues. Just pay the minimum CMS amount to the mother and pay for the kids things directly. As pretty much everyone else has said. Sad to see it’s a a fairly common problem.

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