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My daughter has suddenly said she is scared of step dad

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Jojorobrob · 21/03/2017 12:25

Please can anyone help? I feel like my world has crashed in around me. Yesterday I was called into school as my daughter had confided that she is scared of her stepdad as he "shouts". Yes he does shout, I thought it was called discipline?! The worst thing is the school "have a duty to report to social services" which has terrified me and my partner! Yes him and her have had issues in the past, mainly with her behaviour, his parenting is way stricter than mine. (He has 2 children)
What can I do? I cannot lose him but I also cannot lose my daughter. How can we move forward from this? Is there a way? Counselling etc? Or do I have to accept it is over? We are in the middle of buying our first home together and now this all looks under threat. I cannot sleep, eat, crying all the time, just don't know what to do!! Thanks for any advice xx

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swingofthings · 21/03/2017 16:03

I am guessing this is the 9-10 year old if SS are being asking to look into.
Or the 16 yo if more allegations than shouting have been made.

WannaBe · 21/03/2017 16:03

There is a vast difference though between a nursery aged child and a pre-teen.

I knew of a situation where a child was having his mouth washed out with soap as a form of discipline, school knew and the parent was in fact very open about it yet nothing was done. Contrary to popular belief schools don't refer to SS that regularly. Nurseries are different because younger children are often stil non verbal and cannot speak for themselves...

swingofthings · 21/03/2017 16:05

Yes, I agree WannaBe, can't imagine that's all that has been said, there's got to be more, but that doesn't mean that what has been said is factual. It will be for SS to investigate and decide and OP will need to work closely with them and accept the advice they give her.

WannaBe · 21/03/2017 16:07

I would still imagine that it's the eleven year old as the OP made reference to losing her DD. SS wouldn't remove a sixteen year old who is legally old enough to move out of her own accord.

swingofthings · 21/03/2017 16:07

Is it common practice for schools to speak with the parent before deciding to contact SS?

OverthinkingSpartacus · 21/03/2017 16:09

I know it's easy to snap in the heat if the moment and shout, but that doesn't sound like what's happening here, shouting I. The heat of the moment through frustration and exhaustion isn't done as active discipline method, it's an impulse action IMO pm with your dp, it sounds like it's a regular thing and I think it's easy to forget how intimidating it can be to a child to have a grown adult, esp a grown adult male shouting at you regularly. What is it that dd is doing that requires him to step in and discipline her in this way when you don't? Why isn't he following the lead from you?

Does he have DC of his own? Does he "discipline" them in the same way and are they also scared of him? His discipline clearly isn't working if he's shouting at her often enough for her to be scared of him. So what's his next method to try? If he was the boss at work, would he discipline colleagues the same way. If not why not?

Dh has raised his voice at his son twice in the 17 years I've been with him, (both for safety reasons rather than discipline) his son wasn't scared as he had built up a relationship with him since birth and knew his Dad was safe while testing boundaries, had his Mums partner raised his voice at him, or even myself, I can see him being scared as he wouldnt know their boundaries as they a new adult in their life, they haven't had the years of safety testing boundaries like they have with their own parent. Hope I'm making sense.

My own Dad would always be shouting at my Mum and us, they split when I was about three but I remember her often standing in front of me as my dad was in my face shouting at me for not putting a doll away, to which he'd start shouting at her for being to soft. I quickly learnt that Dad would use shouting as an intimidation method, it's so hard to describe but the shouting in its own isn't what made be scared of him, it was his interactions with my mum, the change in atmosphere when he came home, seeing my Mum change from carefree to nervous and on edge when he walked in. The bending over backwards to not make him shout. I hated the few times he'd be drunk as it would be worse and he's sometimes push my Mum if she tried to stop him shouting at me. I really can't articulate but despite my Dad never laying a finger on me, I was very much more scared of him than the future boyfriend who hit me. It's only after his death a few years ago that I'm seeing just much damage he has done and how scared of him I was right into adulthood.

Shouting doesn't always have to be abusive, but your Daughter feels scared of him and she couldn't come to you to talk about it and spoke to school instead. Does he act intimidating in it her areas, does he expect things a certain way and everyone has to follow his rules type thing? If he's not abusive he will be horrified that he's made a little girl scared of him and want to change that and work on it. If he's anything like my own father he will be angry that she's spoke of her feelings, that she's making a fuss, that she's lying to split you up, that you and her should be greatful that he's being a father figure (cam paring himself to your ex if he's not around) that you dont discipline her properly so he has to.

His reaction to learning he is scaring her will say a lot.

WannaBe · 21/03/2017 16:13

"Is it common practice for schools to speak with the parent before deciding to contact SS?" yes, it's common procedure now - the parents have to be informed that SS have been contacted wrt a child protection concern.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 21/03/2017 16:19

By the way, I am a shouter, owed to my Mediterranean background and yes, I use it as a form of discipline and it works very well

I think there is a HUGE difference between a shouty Mediterranean loving Mum , and a shouty step parent

anyway OP has run for the hill the bridge

WannaBe · 21/03/2017 16:26

Ok, I realise it's generally not the done thing to go back over previous threads but IMO it's worth reading the OP's previous posts because there is very much reference to the fact that the DD's have in the past attempted to manipulate the OP and her DP's relationship. And OP has referred to the fact that they kick off if they don't get their own way.

So while I'm in no doubt that the DD will have said something very serious to provoke a referral, I'm inclined to think that a serious allegation at the point that the OP and her DP are about to move in together is probably more manipulation on the part of the DD.

FaFoutis · 21/03/2017 16:38

But that's only her perspective.

OliviaStabler · 21/03/2017 16:53

OP?

pieceofpurplesky · 21/03/2017 16:57

Hmmmmm.

Miserylovescompany2 · 21/03/2017 17:15

Is this another wind em up and watch them go thread?

Gaggleofgirls · 21/03/2017 21:55

Swing finally someone saying it how it is!
So many 'little treasures' being brought up!! Utterly ridiculous the amount of assumptions being made.
SS got involved with people close to us for a child not wearing shoes. Absolutely stupid, school had a duty of care, didn't check the school bag though 😱 Where said child had put school shoes 🤔

Not surprised OPs not replied since she probably just wanted advice not to be jumped on by people who only whisper to their kids or for the way she's written a post (I'm assuming it was unintentional to put DP in front of DD!)

feedingducks · 22/03/2017 06:14

Wannabe if thats true then it must be very hard for the op. But where do you draw the line? Even if the kids are making life difficult and coming up with stories, as the parent do you stay in that relationship despite their unhappiness, or leave to focus on them? Mine are not at an age where these troubles arise so I really don't know how it would play out?

feedingducks · 22/03/2017 06:16

And 'little treasures' is offensive. Children are more important than other relationships. Yes they should be disciplined but should have their needs met too.

WannaBe · 22/03/2017 10:48

It's a difficult one. I think that if children are making up stories or being manipulative in other ways then this does need to be taken on board, but some parents struggle with this hugely because it puts their own potential happiness at risk.

But reality is that children don't have to like the incoming partner just because the parent does, and many struggle with that. How many people post here that their children adore their partners/have a close relationship with them etc, when although this is likely the case, the parent wants that to be the case as well so expressing the fact makes it more real iyswim.

My DS does have a close relationship with my DP, however he has struggled a lot to accept my eXH's DP, and I know that my eXH has struggled with this, because he is obviously torn between DS and his DP, and also they have a child together so this makes things doubly difficult. And although I am eternally glad that my DS and my DP have a good relationship, I do find myself thinking that being on the other side must be a nightmare. I also think that it must be difficult to be the incoming partner who finds themselves not accepted by the children of the partner they have chosen to build a life with.

I think as hard as it is, when it comes to things as serious as potential allegations, the children need to be put first. Because reality is that even if the allegations are made up, those relationships are not going to be fixed overnight. Far better to walk away now than to feel unable to be part of a family in the longer term. And if I were the incoming partner I certainly wouldn't want to stay in a relationship where the children had made allegations of abuse, even if it was just for attention/manipulation.

Toobloodytired · 22/03/2017 12:10

Someone I knew, her daughter said her step dad sexually assaulted her.....her mother took it very seriously.....took her daughter to the police, removed all of them from the country & back to the uk.

Months later it came out that she lied because she didn't like her step dad and wanted to move back to the UK.

She got her way, her step dad didn't want her near him!
Mother & stepdad tried to reconcile but it ruined their marriage!

He is the father of her second youngest.

rka2017 · 22/03/2017 13:33

why this thread is continuing without any OP's reply

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