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ArsenicFaceCream · 03/08/2014 13:20

Thanks for the name dozie Grin

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FlossyMoo · 05/08/2014 11:11

Jools I think there will be a new thread and I see no reason why you will not be invited just bring a hat Grin

basgetti · 05/08/2014 11:12

Pag happy anniversary! And good point, maybe a bowler hat would be more suitable. Your standards are slipping Flossy!

whyonearthdoyouthink · 05/08/2014 11:12

I was merely clarifying for you why I returned to the thread - as you seemed to have missed the direct references to myself. As someone whose SD suffers significantly from spousofication at the hands of her mother - I am more than aware of the damage it causes a child - I am also more than aware that getting professuonal help is nigh on impossible and that in the face of hostility from one or both parents in tackling it it is impossible for a SM to address alone. I found counselling, SD lied to the counsellor although she is back in counselling again now I am told by her last letter.

While I personally dont like mini wife it has nasty overtones - dont be too fast to dismiss concerns, as I said way back ib the thread it is a formo

Pagwatch · 05/08/2014 11:13

Nice hat Zombie. Jaunty Grin

IamtheZombie · 05/08/2014 11:15

It's a Cruise Director's hat, Fair. Do you have one of those yet?

Pagwatch · 05/08/2014 11:18

Actually, as I have a bunch of sensible sorts here can I get your thought?

Ds2 is, as I said, 17. His SN are so severe that games, sports etc are a problem. He also has obsessions and gets his main pleasure from using the computer looking at Disney films.

DH and I try to get him out of the house as much as possible but as he gets older it feels more awkward to be trying to control his time.
He is still at school, does what is asked of him and is generally a good kid.
We get him out to dog walk and go out to eat, shopping trips and watching sport but I still feel guilty about how much screen time he gets.

Do you think it's just guilt? Lots of teenagers chose to have lots of screen time and he has few personal resources iyswim.
Gag, I don't even really know what I'm asking. It's just a bit shit really.

ArsenicFaceCream · 05/08/2014 11:19

Welcome Zombie I can see we are going to have to up our game in the hat stakes Smile

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FlossyMoo · 05/08/2014 11:19

Cruise Director is a new one Zombie is that another title for party organizer?

Waltermittythesequel · 05/08/2014 11:20

I'm going to give my take on the whole thing (not that anyone has to read it!)

I have run the course of step parenting from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows.

At the start, I was young and had never been with someone who had a child so naturally, IMO, there were fuck ups on all sides.

I didn't know where I fit in. Sd didn't know what was happening in her ordered world and dh was understandably worried about sd's reactions to everything.

He was also, and I'm sure a lot of us have been here, worried about what ex would do.

I had an irrational anger and jealousy. I was angry "about" sd and all it entailed, but not "at" her and, in actual fact, I was angry at dh's burying his head in the sand instead of dealing with stuff!

Her early teens were the absolute worse. She lashed out. I was pissed off. Dh acted like a fucking child and her mum caused untold problems...

Except she didn't.

In hindsight, her mum did nothing more than try to support her daughter. It didn't help, but I don't think it was malicious.

I was extremely upset about some serious lies sd told me. But there was no real attempt on my part (when it first kicked off) to understand her, to really clam down and see what was going on.

You see? I wasn't a perfect SM. Very far from it.

But I learned. We all did. Now, we're great!

Look, when SM's come on here hating their sdc or wanting them out of the house etc, that's just not reasonable. I know because there were times that I was that SM.

And I can guarantee that if I hadn't had voices of reason telling me that blaming sd, or hating her, or banning her etc wasn't the way to fix it, I would not have a happy family today.

Sometimes support is about telling the poster here that she's wrong; no ifs or buts about it.

Yes SM come here in despair. I, for one, don't think telling them how saintly they are and how awful everyone else is, is being supportive.

It might make them feel better for the length of the thread, but real life has an awful habit of rolling on, regardless of what MN thinks.

IorekByrnisonsArmour · 05/08/2014 11:20

Good morning All

Happy anniversary Paggy hope the eye is better

Good to see you Arse

Zombie nice hat

I wore my hat for dog walking in the rain
Where did the sun go?

Pagwatch · 05/08/2014 11:24

What a great post Walter.

Waltermittythesequel · 05/08/2014 11:24

Pag I would hazard a guess that your ds probably gets more exercise than the average teen his age.

My own dn is a total techno genius!

But the downside is that he spends a majority of his time on a screen of some description.

I think gentle encouragement is perfectly fine. You have nothing to feel guilty for!

NickiFury · 05/08/2014 11:25

Pag my ds has a number of SN including autism. He has a lot of screen time too, trains mostly with lego and top gear thrown in. I get him out the house at least once a day and he does a number of activities. He's also got a mate who comes round to play PS3 games with him. I don't seek to control his screen time because it is pretty much his only outlet. The friend probably wouldn't come if the didn't play PS3. I worry about it too but I try to remember how adults would go on at me for always having my nose in a book, for a lot of people I think finding information out via google is today's equivalent of reading a book, maybe a simplistic view but ds is so informed about his interests that I can only see it positively.

Also you're on holiday, give yourself a break Smile

ArsenicFaceCream · 05/08/2014 11:25

Pag I have no advice beyond the thought that it isn't unusual, particularly with SN, but amongst 17 year olds generally. Which isn't the same as it being desirable, clearly. But the 'giving the SN teens the independence to make sub-optimal choices' thing is something you have my whole-hearted sympathy with.

Not very helpful - just expressing solidarity Smile

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Pagwatch · 05/08/2014 11:26

Thanks Iorek , much better.

I do think support has to encompass a willingness to say 'I think you are wrong here' otherwise it is pointless , it's just cheer leading.

FlossyMoo · 05/08/2014 11:27

Pag it sounds pretty normal to me.

I think you are worrying about his screen time but I don't see it as an issue especially given the topics he likes to look at. DSS who is not N spent 5 weeks in his room aged 17. He was with us for the summer and we only saw him at meal times Smile. We left him to it. He was invited out with us and activities offered but he was happy where he was.

10 years on he has plenty of friends, is in a band and has a lovely girlfriend.

Pagwatch · 05/08/2014 11:27

Thanks all Smile

Waltermittythesequel · 05/08/2014 11:33

I do think support has to encompass a willingness to say 'I think you are wrong here' otherwise it is pointless , it's just cheer leading

Waltermittythesequel · 05/08/2014 11:33

Oops, meant to say spot on there Pag

IorekByrnisonsArmour · 05/08/2014 11:33

Great post Walt Smile

I think Paggy it probably is guilt.

I have a friend who has 2 DSs with quite severe autism.
She struggles with this too. You sound like you are doing a fab job Smile

FlossyMoo · 05/08/2014 11:36

Great post Walt

Like you I was young (23) when I became a part of DSS's lives. It was very alien to me and considering they were both teenagers I had no idea of how to handle it all.

We got on fine at first but things went tits up when I became pregnant. I had my own emotions to deal with and theirs too. I was all over the place and it was very fraught sometimes but I never wished them gone.
I did wish it was easier or that I had met them when they were much younger or I was much older but I never hated them.

My large, loving and happy family is one of my greatest achievements but it wasn't always easy to achieve.

ArsenicFaceCream · 05/08/2014 11:37

You couldn't have explained it better Walt Smile

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IamtheZombie · 05/08/2014 11:42

Flossy, basically yes. A cruise director is responsible for the entertainment side of things. There's more to it than just that but in a nutshell that's the main thing.

FlossyMoo · 05/08/2014 11:45

Well that works for me Zombie we need some direction on entertainment as the meaning seems to differ for some on this thread Wink

FlossyMoo · 05/08/2014 11:51

Well you lovely mad hatters I'm off to get ready for work. I will be back shortly possibly sporting a new hat Grin

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