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Ready to walk - horrible Step kids, Ex Wife & DP not much better

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spillingthebeans · 13/02/2014 17:48

Have been wanting to post for some time but it's all such a mess I don't know where to start!!

Been with DP for 3 years, volatile relationship but love him very much. I moved into his place a few months ago, we'd been living between his and mine prior to this. About 6 weeks after I moved in his eldest 2 children (pre teens) turned up on the doorstep after having a row with their mother and wanted to stay. We rang her to let her know they were safe etc. She screamed and shouted, called the police - she hates me and wants her kids to have nothing to do with me. Nothing came of it and they have been here ever since (5 or 6 weeks).

She wont let the other children come here so DP has to go and see them at least twice a week including a weekend day. He is due back in court in a couple of weeks to get the children to come here as we are both unhappy with him going to Ex's home but so far the court seems to be happy with the arrangement, i'm hoping the fact that 2 of the now live with us will make the judge see sense.

I have one child living with us who is very quiet, quite geeky, studious, no trouble - not just saying that because he is mine, I have an older child who was a pain in the bum!! I have a very good relationship with my ex and we parent well together, he has our child 2 nights per week.

Since DP's 2 have moved in i've done everything I can to make them welcome, gone and bought beds, bedding, set up the living room as their bedroom, cooked food they like, taken an interest etc. but also taken a back seat as it's very early days and they don't know me that well. I probably should say here that I have been a step mother before in my previous marriage and had a good relationship with my now adult step children, it wasn't easy but we got there in the end.

Now for the issues:

DP gives them whatever they ask for (for example - he bought another ps3 so they had one each in the same room, they then argued over a game screaming and shouting, really nasty behaviour so he went straight out and bought a duplicate of the game!?!)

They treat the house appallingly, they never take plates out, lie in bed and drop sweet wrappers on the floor, spill drinks, washing all over the floor. When asked to tidy up they moan, shout abuse and the last time the youngest decided to go back to Mums (changed his mind when he got there!)

DP pleads with them 'please do ..... for Daddy' in such a drippy way instead of just telling them to bloody do it. Honestly it drives me mad and I have lost so much respect for the man, it's like he is scared of his own children. They certainly have no respect for him and know that nothing will happen if they don't do what he has asked.

I appear to be the live in Nanny! I work from home so am a sitting target, if the children are off school ill/inservice day. Last week he allowed one of them to stay up on a school night until past 2am, I told him he was being irresponsible and that it would be difficult in the morning, so next morning said child was 'ill' couldn't get out of bed, felt sick etc. I told DP he would have to stay home with him then or take him to his mothers (a SAHM). I was completely disregarded and told he would be fine on his own and DP sauntered off to work leaving me to it!

They have been off school today and again I have been left with them even though mine is at his fathers. DP says they are old enough to be left alone all day - I disagree. I am obviously right because I popped out at lunchtime for 2 hours, came back and they + 2 friends had been in our bedroom and completely trashed the room, sweets everywhere, rubbish, drinks spilt all over the bed. This is the only room we have - I live, work and sleep in one bloody room and even that isn't sacred!

Their diet is appalling, no veg or fruit, DP gives them money every morning and they buy sweets, chocolate, fizzy drinks - not just a little treat, as in todays incident there were 6 2ltr bottles of tizer, 6 packs of sweets (the size you get in the cinema), crisps etc. And DP still buys more for them 'because they like them..'

There is so much more but I have waffled on so much! Think I need a place to vent and get advice - hopefully this is it.

I'm actually moving out on Sunday into a larger place, DP wants him and the kids to come with me - I'm not so sure! :(

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spillingthebeans · 14/02/2014 12:03

His will have to go to their Mums while he's away - I don't think he has sorted this yet which is par for the course with him, he buries his head and thinks things will magically work out.

Can I also pick your brains on another matter? He is due in court for the financial agreement but is also going bankrupt, he hasn't filled in the forms yet, it's all in the hands of an advisor. He hasn't actually told his ex or the court and intends to just tell them at the hearing. She is asking for a huge amount (he pays way over the odds willingly) each week and a lump sum every 6 months for herself, she still believes he has plenty of cash. He will not apply for CB for the 2 living with him which means he cannot apply for tax credits (that is another reason for not living together - I can't afford to lose my tax credits or support them all).

I'm annoyed as I don't think the court will believe he has no money and he should have 'weaned' ex off his wages gradually over the last 3 years until it became a reasonable amount for them both to live on instead of dropping this bombshell on her in court.

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ProphetOfDoom · 14/02/2014 12:06

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Kaluki · 14/02/2014 12:10

Another reason to distance yourself from this car crash of a relationship.
I imagine the fallout from the court case will be immense. You will be well out of it.
Lay things on the line for him. Say you are moving without him as there are too many problems for him and his kids to come too. Then move into your nice new house alone and use the next 18 months to see if he can turn things around (it doesn't sound hopeful) and if he can then maybe you can move together when you are ready and his dc are older and better behaved.
That way you have given him a chance to make things right while still protecting your own dc and keeping your sanity!

JoinYourPlayfellows · 14/02/2014 12:12

Thank God you have somewhere to go in a few days.

I think booking yourself into a hotel tonight sounds like a great idea!

Do it, it will be so relaxing.

Blu · 14/02/2014 12:23

"His kids don't stand a chance, him and his ex are so wrapped up in themselves and using the kids to score points against each other, they completely forget to actually parent them."

This.

The poor kids - actually I think it is pretty bad that their mother just let them move out and didn't try and sort things out properly and get them back home. They must feel very abandoned. And could well be doing that self fulfilling prophecy thing of 'you don't love me! No you don't , if I trash the house you'll chuck me out! well, OK if I refuse to tidy you'll chuck me out...' because they actually have no sense of security. And would rather be in control of their own bad situation than feel out of control at the hands of an abandoning mother and a father who by showing he is scared to make them observe boundaries is actually saying "I don't think we all love each other enough to risk any boundaries".

I would move out, and talk to your DP very seriously about this. But keep contact with the kids, be firm and kind and have boundaries - arrange to meet them and so on.

But until your DP and his ex stop engaging in a toxic mutually beneficial childishness over the kids you won't stand a chance.

Before we even start in his drinking, which you dripped in there....

For your own child's sake, remove yourself, and her to an emotionally safe environment. Why would you expose your dc to this?

Blu · 14/02/2014 12:31

Just read your post about bankruptcy and telling his ex.

Does he ever take any responsibility for anything?

If you stick with this he will drag you down, and you will be dragging your ds down with it all.

Go now, while you have the chance.

And don't be so naive - he is fully expecting you just to be there and pick up the pieces while he is away, like he expects you, despite your protestations, to look after them when they are off school. No way will he ask the ex if they can go there, and if he does she will say no, or if they do go they will end p back on your doorstep.

WhispersOfWickedness · 14/02/2014 12:37

I hardly ever reply to relationship threads, but please leave him, it just sounds like a disaster! What a relief that you only need to put up with it for a couple more days! ThanksThanks

spillingthebeans · 14/02/2014 12:41

I'm exhausted by the whole crappy situation and am so looking forward to moving out and settling into our lovely new home. DPs family are toxic too, it's just history repeating itself.

He takes no responsibility at all, he flouts the law, doesn't adhere to any rules and always gets away with it - he seems to think he's invincible.

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Hassled · 14/02/2014 12:44

Bloody hell - what a nightmare for you. I feel desperately sorry for the not-parented kids but really, you need to run for the hills and not look back.

Blu · 14/02/2014 12:47

Please, please do not allow your ds to be sucked in to an ongoing relationship with this man. The toxic in-laws, the financial ruin -because of course if you stay or continue a relationship he will live off you (how is he paying the rent or mortgage or payments to his ex if he is bankrupt?) and that will in turn hugely disadvantage your ds.

He is an irresponsible user.

BalloonSlayer · 14/02/2014 12:50
Shock

Agree with everyone else!

And Matilda I just love love LOVE "exit as if pursued by a cocklodger---->" Grin Grin Grin

maggiemight · 14/02/2014 14:59

Why would the court believe he is bankrupt if he just announces it - sounds likes weeks/months of more stress and rows over money.

Are your finances separated from his OP?

I hope so.

Start a new life without any of them please

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spillingthebeans · 14/02/2014 18:25

Sorry for the delay getting back - have packed everything up, one of the kids came back here from school so I was very nice and told him he was due at his mums for tea. He got back an hour ago, I went for a bath and he's been on the phone most of the time to one of his younger children - his ex has heard 'we' are moving closer so she has told the kids they will be selling up and leaving the family home - causing mass hysteria and grizzling from said child! :-/

He's now fucked off round there - I told him it's the last time he hurts me, i'm not sitting around waiting for him to get back after spending bloody valentines night with his ex and he might as well stay there. All I got was abuse and 'it's for the children...' that's his bloody mantra. He's not staying around to listen to 'my drivel' wtf???

The weather is shit, i'm hungry and pissed off, not sure I can face going to a hotel, I think I need to just sit it out, calm down and count the minutes until I get out of here.

I know he will come back with the kids - it will be his little security blanket. What a knob :(

My finances are completely separate thank goodness. He doesn't pay rent/mortgage, he owns the property outright but it is in a friends name.

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FrankieStien · 14/02/2014 18:53

Please, please ltb.

ProphetOfDoom · 14/02/2014 18:56

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Cabrinha · 14/02/2014 20:24

Even before reading the detail (which is awful) as soon as you said "volatile relationship" I thought - LTB. Volatile relationships are shit.

Then I read the detail! Flipping heck, what do you even see in this guy?!!!!!!
Leave, and don't look back. "Drivel?" I'd tell him to fuck right off over that one.

And the kind of person that can run up enough debt to go bankrupt yet has an owned outright property, conveniently in a friend's name? Well, wouldn't be my kind of guy.

Honestly - I don't see any redeeming feature here.

spillingthebeans · 14/02/2014 20:55

He's pissed and being a complete asshole, both kids here as I predicted - roll on Sunday and i'm out of this shithole for good!!!

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Lj8893 · 15/02/2014 06:28

If I were you I would be leaving on Sunday (if you can't leave before) and I wouldn't be looking back.

TheMumsRush · 15/02/2014 07:48

Only one day to get through beans, you can do it! My dh would never go to his ex's on valentines as he knows this would hurt me, sometimes the partner has to come first. And then to come home with the kids and get pissed? No way. Brew

zipzap · 15/02/2014 07:48

Oh my, it just gets worse Sad. But very glad to hear that you are off on Sunday (is that the soonest you can access the place?)

Glad to gear you are packing up and exiting - have you checked carefully to make sure that he or his dc haven't snaffled any of your stuff or anything if your dc's just to cause you grief or because they feel entitled to?

And I'm another one who reckons you are going to have to watch out once he realises that he's lost the services of his live in slave! He's not going to want to let that go without somesort of fight rather than wanting you back as a person because he loves you as a person.

Does he know your new address? Make sure there is something in writing that says you are moving put as you don't want to live together, the past few weeks have shown that you are incompatible and it could never work, so that in a few weeks time you dont discover him on your doorstep ssying that this was always his the plan as he wants his skivvy back.

Is there any proof the house OSS his but in a friend's name? Might be worth mentioning to the bankruptcy service. After all, why should some people miss out when he is laughing in his house?!?

shey02 · 16/02/2014 00:19

Sounds like a man child. The Ex and kids will always dominate him unfortunately. He will always let them.

WhispersOfWickedness · 16/02/2014 07:58

Hope the move goes well today! ThanksThanksWineWine

QOD · 16/02/2014 08:03

Good luck today