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Step Parents - would you do it all over again?

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codsworth · 14/01/2011 12:48

Simple question really. If you had the choice, would you do the step mum thing over again?
I'm in the process of ending a relationship, partly over the kids and I swear to god I would NEVER, EVER get with anyone who had children again. I just couldn't do it.

Interested in how others feel?

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perfumedlife · 14/10/2011 11:27

Sad I'm there too LaDolcheRyvita, have not seen my ss(15) for two years. Dh and I had taken so much crap from his ex for so long that we stood up to her finally and are being punished by no contact. What makes it so galling, so wrong, is we found out last year, quite by accident, that ss is on the child protection register. The social workers wanted to contact dh and she lied she didn't know where he was (odd that she knows exactly where the £600 a month is though).

It's not just the stepchild that suffers either. I get so sick of hearing that. Our son has not seen his half brother for two years and pines for him. I have had to explain the no shows and then total absense to my child who can't understand it and thinks his brother doesn't love him.

It affects the whole family. It's like being punished for making a happy marriage when they couldn't.

marge2 · 14/10/2011 11:37

I've thought a lot about it actually over the years. DH can be a difficult person and since having kids of our own I can sometime totally see why his ex left him. SKIDS were not easy. The eldest was ( and still is) a self-centred little bitch to be honest. Other two were OK, but having three young kids every other weekend wasn't easy at all.

Obviously our family finances have (quite rightly) been affected by the fact that he had 3 kids to provide for. I have no issue with the fact that he gave their Mum money every month. However it does mean our ( me and DSs) life is not as comfy as it could have been if there were no SKIDS.

If I hadn't married him then my 2 fab DSs wouldn't have been born. I may or may not have met someone else and had kids with them.

All in all - would I do it again if I met DH tomorrow? No.

If we split up would I ever date a man with kids.?

On balance? - No chance.

marge2 · 14/10/2011 11:50

....and in fact because of being a step parent, I dont think I would ever get into another relationship until my DSs were all grown up and out of the nest, if DH and I split up. I would hate my DSs to be disliked by any new partner of mine as much as I disliked my DSD1. I would hate for my DSs to have to share me with anyone.

I cannot not stand DSD1, DSD2 is lovely, I really like her, but love her? hmmm? Not sure.... DSS - can take or leave. Don't love him. How could I expect a new partner of mine to have feelings any different from this towards my DSs?

perfumedlife · 14/10/2011 11:55

Yes marge2, that's what would worry me. The expectation that men will just blend in with womens kids when women struggle with it so much seems so unrealistic.

marge2 · 14/10/2011 11:56

Perfumed totally get that. DH tries so hard to organise seeing the SKIDS. The youngest is almost 17. We used to have them EOWE. NOW they are older they don;t want to come to stay with us anymore. Our hosue is 'boring' ( no sky) they have their own social lives to lead. Fair enough. But they so often blow out his arrangements, ( and its a 90 minute drive to go to their area) at the very last minute. i.e we are almost there. Our 2 DSs absolutely worship their big bro and sisters, and they have been disappointed SO often. My youngest said recently when he was 'grownup' and they were 'old' he was going to 'not see them' and see how they liked it.

DH NEVER blew out a pick up or other arrangement with them.

LaDolcheRyvita · 14/10/2011 12:17

Oh dear, there's some terribly sad situations on here.

Thanks for you, ladies....

catsmother · 14/10/2011 14:13

There's another aspect at play here ... well, in my opinion anyway ... so far as step family relationships are concerned, and that is that as a stepMOTHER, I believe that women face a disproportionate pressure to make a success out of the whole shebang whereas "society's" expectations of a stepFATHER aren't quite so demanding. Quite obviously, whatever the gender, anyone in a step situation would hope that any step parent, whatever their gender, would be kind and fair towards the children, but in my own experience (and this is reflected in the experience of other women in my position) because you're a woman, and therefore considered to be the more nurturing sex by many, you're in for a great deal more criticism if you don't instantly fall in love with your stepkids and fail to regularly express great joy at the prospect of seeing them.

As a single mother myself when I met DP all I ever hoped for was that he'd be kind to my son ... I certainly didn't expect him to immediately love and/or bond with my son, and I think I was objective enough to realise that whilst I loved my child unconditionally, that didn't mean other people would feel the same (have always felt this, in regard to all sorts of people - friends, family). I therefore took no offence at the fact that although my (now grown) son and DP have an okay relationship, it's not a close one. Have always fallen back on the fact that my son has a dad, who, for better or worse, has always been a constant, and that therefore he didn't need someone else to duplicate that role. That's not to say that if a close friendship had developed between them, I wouldn't have been delighted - because indisputably, the more people you're close to the better .... but it hasn't gone that way, and that's that.

However ... so far as my own relationship with DP's kids is concerned, I've often felt judged - by both him and his family - because I don't demonstrate gushy feelings for them. I'd emphasise that I have always been kind and fair, but, for a variety of reasons, over many years now, I've come to the conclusion that I don't love them and may never do so. Fact is, kids are individuals, just as adults are, and while you make certain age related allowances for children, they are growing up all the time, taking on more and more responsibility for their own actions, and there came a point when I thought, if I'm honest, I don't really like them all that much ... that some things just can't be put down to them being kids, and are more to do with their basic personalities. I just don't click with them ... they've been brought up very differently to the way my own kids have been brought up, and DP has been "allowed" very little input in this (compounded by his fear to speak up about things he disagrees with in case he "upsets" them and they never darken the doorstep again) so undfortunately, I don't see very much of him in them, which might have helped me feel closer to them. We've also had prolonged (years) periods of disrupted (at best) and totally obstructed (at worst) contact, so that's another contributing factor to me not feeling close. Anyway, all of that notwithstanding, the point is that I have sometimes been criticised for not reacting with enthusiasm re: the skids ... DP's attitude being "they're just kids", and "what's not to love". I'm quite capable of understanding that other people don't feel the same way as I do about my own children, so why isn't he capable of accepting the same ? ... particularly when his children come with years of complicated history which have made it difficult to a) get to know them properly and b) have pushed my patience and stress levels to the limit. As I said, I would never dream of being unkind or unfair to them but it often seems that basic kindness and courtesy (often not really deserved TBH, so I make a huge effort, for his sake) apparently isn't "enough". I don't remember DP making huge efforts on behalf of my son, nor has he ever enthused about him so I feel DP's attitude can sometimes be very hypocritical and am convinced that this is partly due to me being a stepMOTHER .... after all, as a woman, I am "supposed" to be nurturing, it's "supposed" to be "natural" - especially as I am a mother in my own right - to love kids ! It's hard to articulate all this right now with limited time to type but it's little remarks over the years from both DP - and his mum - that make me feel I'm not quite doing "my bit" when it comes to the skids, and that in their opinion it's not quite "natural" for me to feel the way I do ...... despite the fact that no such similar pressure/comments were ever directed towards DP over my son. Similarly - whilst on the subject of gender roles, DP never really helped practically with my son - I did it all, which I was happy to do ... however, it's often been kind of expected that I'll absorb all the extra work created by two more children, and when I've put my foot down and made it very clear that DP would have to take on the majority of the responsibility for caring for HIS kids, there's been a fair bit of sulking and stropping about. Well tough - what would he do if I wasn't around .... but again, this illustrates that women are often expected to take on the extra work without complaint, whereas I don't think most women would expect their partners to suddenly start cooking, cleaning, babysitting, ferrying about for children which weren't theirs. Am NOT saying there should be a clear division of labour between YOUR child and MINE by the way as clearly that would be impractical in most families but ideally it should be give and take, and the adults pulling together to make things work .... not one adult having a jolly old time at contact weekends while the other adult clears up the extra mess all on their own. However, I bet I'm right in saying that more women end up doing more for their step children than men do for their stepchildren.

PegsOnTheFlatLine · 14/10/2011 14:34

Cats - brilliant post and yes, about gender roles influencing our experiences of stepparenting.

It's an issue that brought many discussions in our couple over the years and DH did have to admit that there IS a huge gap in expectations based on gender in blended families. I have fought for us to find that balance and it's an ongoing effort from both parts to make sure that the 'family' work remains equally shared.

LaDolcheRyvita · 14/10/2011 14:45

Catsmother you have expressed my situation/feeling perfectly.

I just dont see much to like in my youngest SD... I'm at the stage where frankly, I'm dreading her return, should she decide to return. We have a (horrid) saying up t'North which is "all sht or all sugar" and this describes her perfectly. I'm not proud of that remark but you can guess who gets all the sht and who is on the receiving end of the sugary bits!

(skulls away in shame at describing her thus Blush

catsmother · 14/10/2011 15:01

One thing I remembered after writing all that ..... was how DP once criticised me for not being as physically affectionate as I once was with SD (??!!). I met SD when she was very young primary age, and like a lot of kids that age she wasn't backwards in coming forward in spontaneously climbing on your lap, or giving you a hug and obviously I wasn't going to shove her away, though if honest I never felt 100% comfortable about it as her mother is a nasty sort who seizes upon everything and anything to make trouble and because of this, and because she also wasn't my child, I didn't initiate the cuddles myself.

Naturally, SD grows up and by 11/12, like most kids that age, aren't climbing over most people they know. Yet somehow I'm at fault. What made me really cross after I'd tried to point this out to DP - and also pointed out that in the intervening years, there'd been an awful lot of water under the bridge, which age apart, would have made it even harder and more unlikely for me to be physically affectionate, was DP saying I didn't seem to have any difficulty in being affectionate to our DD ... well, I should think not, seeing as she was MY daughter AND she was about 5 at the time - exactly the age when kids want/need a lot of hugs, handholding etc. Was very cross that DP couldn't appreciate there whilst there might have not been a difference between the two girls for him there was for me ...... plus, I'd never criticised him for not being physically affectionate towards my son at the same age. It would never have occured to me to do so. Just seemed that there was an underlying implication in what he said that he thought my behaviour wasn't natural yet he made no correlation between this and his past approach.

perfumedlife · 14/10/2011 16:15

catsmother that was brilliantly articulated. You described things I didn't know I knew, iykwim. I'm seeing it slightly skewed at the minute as my sister has just broke up with her dh, she had a son from previous relationship and her dh was very cold towards him. But you are right, on the whole, it's not expected of them in the way it seems to be of us.

My ss was the same with affection at 4. We don't see him now, but when he was coming here as a an early teenager, I just had to keep out the way as my input was not required unless it was gushing praise. When there was an explosive argument as a result of ss lying to us, involving his mother, dh must have reminded me at least twenty times he was 'only a child' and he was 'only thirteen' Angry Like I didn't know his age. So, cook, clean, taxi, chef, entertain, great, that's wanted, but god help you if you actually treat them like your own and discipline them.

I don't know what the answer is Confused

LaDolcheRyvita · 14/10/2011 16:56

Catsmother your partner sounds like a bit of a prat, I you don't mind my saying so.

And I agree, I was allowed to wash vomit off the Walls and clean her clothes before she took them back to mum (when youngest SD got very drunk and abusive to me, last year). However, asking her to kindly NOT have her friends sleeping in our bed while we are away for the weekend, without asking us, causes her to "punish" her dad with her absence.

TheMumsRush · 29/10/2013 12:43

Just found this thread, very interesting and some great posts! My answer would be no, I wouldn't do it again. I sometimes feel I can't even do it now

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Stepmooster · 30/10/2013 01:58

Just read the last few posts on this zombie thread. Nice to see catsmother has been writing excellent posts for a while now.

Mojavewonderer · 30/10/2013 10:00

I love my husband but no I would not do it again.
It's not just the kids it's their mum and all her family and my husbands family who don't even consider us a proper family. They resent me and my kids because we are not blood related and it means they don't get to see their grandkids often because we now live 4 hours away. It's the whole sorry set up that I hate. I love my husband to bits but that's it.

Eliza22 · 30/10/2013 10:07

Catsmother..... Thank you for expressing my own feeling so eloquently.

My youngest sd (haven't seen her for years, now 20) has accused me of not being "motherly" toward her. I took that as such a massive insult when I'd tried so hard. She was 11 when DH and I got together. I think what she meant is I didn't push myself in a pseudo-mother fashion over her. I was (I thought) quietly kind/welcoming and friendly to a little girl who refused to look at me or only spoke to me (without looking at me) if she absolutely had to. I once put my hand on her arm (she was about 15) in reassurance and she physically withdrew it and looked at me like shit. Years of being dismissed, being told I wasn't welcome has resulted in her punishing daddy for marrying me (I'm NOT OW).

Every Xmas we have a "situation" whereby, she'll only come, if I'm not here. It's a nightmare. I start to feel physically sick about it round about mid-October. I now dislike her manipulative ways so much, I feel sick just thinking of her.

DH is in the middle of it in the sense that he knows, deep down, that we will have years of this ahead of us. When ds was in her teen years, he could have parented her differently and we may not have been in this situation now, but he was afraid she would tantrum and never see him. As it turns out, that's what she did at 17.

I often feel entirely hopeless about this and it has really, really upset me. I've had a lot of upset in my life (I'm 51... Haven't we all?) and I'm so unhappy that this spiteful young woman is doing this, because she can and because dad had the affrontery to move on and love and marry another woman, after his ex wife's devastating affair.

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Eliza22 · 30/10/2013 19:45

Good point NeedA. She would have objected massively had I come over all touchy/cuddly and invading her emotional space. That much was obvious. Also, she has a mother, some 5 minutes down the road. She didn't need a "mother-in-waiting".

No, I think what she didn't like was that she could see her dad was "different" about me. He loved me. He loves me. He's fantastic with my son, who's now 13. I think, as the youngest, she had been very much protected and dare I say it "Molly coddled" and given her own way in most things. When DH and I got together, we made exceptions because she was still so young. But, exceptions turned into excuses.

And here we are....

Bonsoir · 01/11/2013 20:48

Yes, I would do it all again. My DSSs are lovely and our family is very happy.

CountryGal13 · 01/11/2013 22:06

Yes I'd do it all again because i have a wonderful husband and daughter but I do find being a step parent incredibly challenging.

StandingInLine · 01/11/2013 22:30

Well I've always said that no I wouldn't start a relationship with someone who had kids if OH and I split. With OH there was a short time between his ex (step kids mother )splitting and us getting together which complicated things a lot !! The kids were luckily older and even though the first 5 years was a bit dubious as kids were influenced by their mother and even though they've always been polite to me I know that's because his ex wanted everyone to get along (for her own selfish reasons ; it was obviously a different story behind our backs). However now they've got to that age where they now know what there mum is like and takes everything she says with a pinch of salt things are a lot easier.
I couldn't go into a relationship with either very young kids OR where I had to step up and be a parent to his kids.
I think also that I would love a relationship with someone who hasn't done it all before (bit hypocritical as obviously I'd have baggage now but don't think it bothers men as much as women )and has got to me in the past when we've has our kids that it's probably not as special as he did it all with his ex. But you can't always help who you fall for !!

I do Know now though that things more often than not DO get easier !! You've just got to hang in there :)

cappy123 · 02/11/2013 06:15

Probably with DH not anyone else. Broke off previous engagement with a man with kids from 2 from 2 women - too many issues.

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FunkyFucker · 02/11/2013 11:45

Absolutely.

My OH's DD [not step as we aren't married even though having been together for nearly 10 years and bought a house together 8 years ago]...was manipulative from the day we moved in and orchestrated many instances which made me look bad but hey ho.

Her defining moment came when we were watching the MM news story unfold and she said 'why can't the parents just accept she's gone'. No amount of discussion could persuade her that parents can't just accept it and I though actually, I'm wasting my time. She's just not a nice person.

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