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The Rolling Football Thread, season 2023-24 Part 2

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DuncinToffee · 26/01/2024 11:52

Continuation from this thread

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/sports/4855370-the-rolling-football-thread-season-2023-24?page=40&reply=132530310

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DuncinToffee · 21/04/2024 16:07

The government can get involved by appointing an independent regulator

This whole FA replay debacle is to protect the so called Sky 6

And we won! 💙

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MustTryHarderAndHarder · 21/04/2024 16:13

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 15:34

Sheffield Wednesday are out of the relegation zone for the first time since August. 🦉⚽💙🤍💙

Forgot to say in my monster post there, as sor the "Super League" the obvious BL candidates rather famously declined very early on in that debacle.

Yes, but the CL and the Club World Cup are the Super League in disguise. Don't the BL care about that?

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 16:23

AFAIK the BL don't take part

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 21/04/2024 16:29

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 16:23

AFAIK the BL don't take part

But they will be taking part in the expanded Champions League won't they?

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 18:02

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 21/04/2024 16:29

But they will be taking part in the expanded Champions League won't they?

What's your actual point apart from apparently wanting to needle me about the Bundesliga ?

The German clubs aren't whinging about an overcrowded fixture list, the BL isn't asking the rest of the German league to git in with them? They want to play in UEFA competitions and so they have to join what is on offer. Makes sense.

The BL already makes accommodations for teams with midweek matches by keeping the schedule relatively flexible. (if anyone is interested I can explain how our fixtures work?) until they know who needs to play when. Usually the fixtures are finalized 4 or 5 weeks in advance. We always know which weekend it will be, but not the exact day/time. Can get annoying but on the whole we prefer it to the Spanish model of no matches on at the same time,and spread over several days.

We're over here being happy that, unlike Boro fans a few years ago, we didn't book trains & hotels for a match that was moved at short notice from Easter Saturday to the Monday. And having a say in how our clubs are run.

DuncinToffee · 21/04/2024 18:12

Oooohhh Covernty, so close to a last minute winner, millimeter

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MustTryHarderAndHarder · 21/04/2024 18:23

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 18:02

What's your actual point apart from apparently wanting to needle me about the Bundesliga ?

The German clubs aren't whinging about an overcrowded fixture list, the BL isn't asking the rest of the German league to git in with them? They want to play in UEFA competitions and so they have to join what is on offer. Makes sense.

The BL already makes accommodations for teams with midweek matches by keeping the schedule relatively flexible. (if anyone is interested I can explain how our fixtures work?) until they know who needs to play when. Usually the fixtures are finalized 4 or 5 weeks in advance. We always know which weekend it will be, but not the exact day/time. Can get annoying but on the whole we prefer it to the Spanish model of no matches on at the same time,and spread over several days.

We're over here being happy that, unlike Boro fans a few years ago, we didn't book trains & hotels for a match that was moved at short notice from Easter Saturday to the Monday. And having a say in how our clubs are run.

What do you mean needle you?

You said that the BL clubs rejected the Super League immediately, so I don't understand why they are not making a fuss about the expanded CL as it is just the SL in disguise?

Similarly, with the Club World Cup. It is just another competition for the big clubs just like the SL.

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 21/04/2024 18:41

Well for the last 2.5 hours I’ve been a die hard sky blue Cov fan. That outcome was hard to bear.

Hellohah · 21/04/2024 18:41

DuncinToffee · 21/04/2024 18:12

Oooohhh Covernty, so close to a last minute winner, millimeter

DS is at Wembley, so I'm relieved he doesn't have travel back home having lost BUT the magic of the FA Cup is completely ruined by stupid, stupid VAR. What a story that would have been tonight for that Coventry team that deserved the win and lost it because of a toenail offside, a toenail that had no impact on whether the goal was scored or not. Makes me so mad. I really hate VAR to be honest.

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 19:00

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 21/04/2024 18:23

What do you mean needle you?

You said that the BL clubs rejected the Super League immediately, so I don't understand why they are not making a fuss about the expanded CL as it is just the SL in disguise?

Similarly, with the Club World Cup. It is just another competition for the big clubs just like the SL.

It has a similar construction. But the Super League would vt have been under the auspices of UEFA (IIRC, I didn't pay much attention because it wouldn't affect my club anyway)

In fact, on a personal level I'd have been fine with a closed league with all the big clubs in it.

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 19:01

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thevegetablesoup · 21/04/2024 19:55

Poor poor Coventry. We have a long standing animosity with them but I was gutted for them today. VAR has ruined one of the best fa cup come backs ever.

Ironic that it has denied a championship club and saved a PL club from humiliation when we don't even have it in the championship.

Brefugee · 21/04/2024 20:37

Sorry for duplicate post - was on a train

domineastronomy · 21/04/2024 20:52

Absolutely hate VAR
It's ruined football.

Brefugee · 22/04/2024 07:28

given the amount of money involved in football now, VAR was inevitable, and needn't be a bad thing. But unless and until it is applied a) sensibly and b) consistently i think it's not doing itself any favours.

I want to see the calibrated line abolished - or made the width of an average foot. Giving offside for an infraction of a millimetre is ridiculous. If the naked eye can't see it, IMO, if the decision for offside is given because of a calibrated line, it shouldn't be offside and the decision given in favour of the attacking side.*

IIRC the rule is that VAR is used in situations that could affect the outcome of a match: red cards, offside decisions and potential penalties. Watching PL matches (and increasingly BL matches) some refs seem so scared of goals that they want to refer each one to VAR (or the VAR operator is so scared of goals they insist on looking at every one). It makes a match tedious if you don't know if you can celebrate a goal or not. again, i am all in favour of tending towards the attacking side where there is a tough decision - it rewards attacking football and IMO that is never a bad thing. And don't get me started on the ref going to a pitchside monitor. Just no. If the VAR can't decide, it should be up to the ref to go with his own decision. Whether that's his original one or he's changed his mind: if the Ref calls it, that is it. Ref decides, he is in charge of the game.

Or they do it like tennis: each coach has 2 challenges per half, and if it's upheld he keeps his challenge, if not upheld that challenge is gone. And VAR keep their beaks out except in seriously egregious actions or clearly batshit decisions.

*tbh i used to be scathing of the USA soccer requests to either do away with offside or to have a 25 yard line to help the refs with their decision making. all in an attempt to increase the number of goals per game. Now I'm more prepared to listen to the former (not the latter) view.

YouOnlyCameToSeeEboue · 23/04/2024 22:08

Well, that was good. Ødegaard was on fire. I thought it was quite tight in the first half, but we just opened them up in the second.

It's still Shitty's to lose, but at least we're making them work for it.

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 23/04/2024 23:01

FPL league update.

Tight at the top!

The Rolling Football Thread, season 2023-24 Part 2
thevegetablesoup · 24/04/2024 08:21

In the meantime in the championship Leicester are on the verge of winning the league and will be back in the premier league next season after beating Southampton 5-0. Leeds also in the running after beating Middlesbrough 4-3 on Monday night. Ipswich still to play their game in hand. Other teams in the playoffs are Southampton, West Brom and Norwich.

DuncinToffee · 24/04/2024 22:05

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! UTFT 💙

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thevegetablesoup · 24/04/2024 22:18

Loved watching the Merseyside derby tonight, brilliant to see Goodison rocking. And have a soft spot for Sunderland legend JP!

EddieHowesShithousingMags · 24/04/2024 22:25

Newcastle were shite tonight, well deserved win for Palace.

DuncinToffee · 24/04/2024 22:30

thevegetablesoup · 24/04/2024 22:18

Loved watching the Merseyside derby tonight, brilliant to see Goodison rocking. And have a soft spot for Sunderland legend JP!

He is our favourite Mackem Grin

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YouOnlyCameToSeeEboue · 25/04/2024 00:27

OK, I know this is wrong, but it's just brilliant!

https://twitter.com/ThePeakSanti/status/1783271991417425999

https://twitter.com/ThePeakSanti/status/1783271991417425999

thevegetablesoup · 25/04/2024 07:59

@DuncinToffee nice to see Peter Reid too!

I thought Pickford was brilliant but the whole team played great. What a result for you to end your rivals' season and ensure your own survival. But if you hadn't had the points taken you would have been comfortable at this stage.

Can't decide whether to watch Brighton vs Man City tonight or to have a night off football 🤣

DuncinToffee · 25/04/2024 09:05

I am still buzzing this morning, that was a long time coming.

Next, I just want to enjoy a match without the constant nerves and clock watching 😅

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